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        |  KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 5287
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 08:14:00 -
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 Locus: explosive, Minmatar colors, Minmatar names like Thukker, clearly Minmatar.
 Flux: green Gallente color, Gallente corp names like Allotek, clearly Gallente.
 AV: angular and blue like Caldari stuff, Caldari names like Wiyrkomi, clearly Caldari
 
 All the races have their own grenades types, except for the Amarr. Drop uplinks (which look obviously Amarr) are wormhole technology, which show that the Amarr have some proficiency is manipulating spacetime. I propose an Amarr temporal grenade, inspired by the chrono grenades from Timeshift multiplayer.
 A temporal grenade creates a bubble in which time moves twice as slow. This means those caught in the bubble would move twice as slow, reload twice as slow, perform animations twice as slow, their guns would have half of their normal fire rate, they would stay in the air twice as long when jumping, and non-hitscan weapons would travel through the bubble twice as slow.
 There could be various variants with different bubble durations, bubble radii, etc.
 It would be a useful way to slow down enemies and... who am i kidding, this will never happen. It is way too awesome to ever happen in a game like Dust, i just lost hope while typing this
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        |  1st Lieutenant Tiberius
 0uter.Heaven
 EoN.
 
 32
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 08:23:00 -
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 KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Locus: explosive, Minmatar colors, Minmatar names like Thukker, clearly Minmatar. Flux: green Gallente color, Gallente corp names like Allotek, clearly Gallente. AV: angular and blue like Caldari stuff, Caldari names like Wiyrkomi, clearly Caldari All the races have their own grenades types, except for the Amarr. Drop uplinks (which look obviously Amarr) are wormhole technology, which show that the Amarr have some proficiency is manipulating spacetime. I propose an Amarr temporal grenade, inspired by the chrono grenades from Timeshift multiplayer . A temporal grenade creates a bubble in which time moves twice as slow. This means those caught in the bubble would move twice as slow, reload twice as slow, perform animations twice as slow, their guns would have half of their normal fire rate, they would stay in the air twice as long when jumping, and non-hitscan weapons would travel through the bubble twice as slow. There could be various variants with different bubble durations, bubble radii, etc.  It would be a useful way to slow down enemies and... who am i kidding, this will never happen. It is way too awesome to ever happen in a game like Dust, i just lost hope while typing this   
 That...
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        |  1st Lieutenant Tiberius
 0uter.Heaven
 EoN.
 
 32
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.07 08:24:00 -
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 is an amazing idea.
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        |  KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 5334
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.09 00:48:00 -
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 Bump of irrational hope!
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        |  gargantuise aaron
 Sanguine Knights
 
 6
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.09 01:01:00 -
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 You could also make it borderlands 2 longbow style
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        |  Abe Foster
 XCOM ENEMY UNKNOWN
 
 4
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.09 01:13:00 -
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 I think is is a great idea and should be put in the game.
 Also we always need more grenades
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        |  Aizen Intiki
 Ghost Wolf Industries
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 366
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.09 01:20:00 -
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 Or in New Eden terms, a Stasis Webifer Grenade......
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        |  Jonny Moreau
 Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
 
 22
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.09 02:25:00 -
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 Stasis webiifier grenade plus breach mass driver... hmmm, you sir might be onto a way to make the breach useful. Oh, and it would become standard for vehicle fighting I assume? Put the tabk inside and it would be gg, reps and speed useless
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        |  Iskandar Zul Karnain
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 1551
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.09 03:16:00 -
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 That's a pretty fun idea.
 Lighten up though. Misery and hopelessness are what the naysayers want you to feel. Right??
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        |  Lillica Deathdealer
 Mango and Friends
 
 55
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.09 04:17:00 -
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 I believe in this! Amarr for the win! But just as you said, hope dies fast.
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        |  KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 5503
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.21 19:06:00 -
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 Still would be very awesome
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        |  Terry Webber
 Turalyon 514
 
 325
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.21 20:22:00 -
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 This would be cool to have but I don't think Amarr tech has advanced that far. Stasis webifiers can be a good equivalent.
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        |  KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 5504
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.21 20:27:00 -
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 Terry Webber wrote:This would be cool to have but I don't think Amarr tech has advanced that far. Stasis webifiers can be a good equivalent.  Ships warping is based on bending space, no reason time cannot be bent as well, its all part of the same "fabric". No reason they shouldn't be capable of this, especially on such a small infantry scale.
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        |  Vespasian Andendare
 Subsonic Synthesis
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 123
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.21 20:35:00 -
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 KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I actually think this type of grenade makes more sense as a webbing grenade. It creates a "gravity well" (or whatever technobabble) that webs you down in the area.Locus: explosive, Minmatar colors, Minmatar names like Thukker, clearly Minmatar. Flux: green Gallente color, Gallente corp names like Allotek, clearly Gallente. AV: angular and blue like Caldari stuff, Caldari names like Wiyrkomi, clearly Caldari All the races have their own grenades types, except for the Amarr. Drop uplinks (which look obviously Amarr) are wormhole technology, which show that the Amarr have some proficiency is manipulating spacetime. I propose an Amarr temporal grenade, inspired by the chrono grenades from Timeshift multiplayer . A temporal grenade creates a bubble in which time moves twice as slow. This means those caught in the bubble would move twice as slow, reload twice as slow, perform animations twice as slow, their guns would have half of their normal fire rate, they would stay in the air twice as long when jumping, and non-hitscan weapons would travel through the bubble twice as slow. There could be various variants with different bubble durations, bubble radii, etc.  It would be a useful way to slow down enemies and... who am i kidding, this will never happen. It is way too awesome to ever happen in a game like Dust, i just lost hope while typing this   
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        |  KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 5943
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 18:41:00 -
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 I want
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        |  CCP Mintchip
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 1495
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 18:46:00 -
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 I really like this idea, it's a very neat grenade type! I think there was a similar grenade to this in Red Faction, and one that would reverse all control inputs on the afflicted.
 
 Not sure if this is something that is in the vision of DUST514, but it's definitely cool to talk about :)
 CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
 Dust 514 Community Rep
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        |  NOAMIzzzzz
 BIG BAD W0LVES
 
 42
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 18:49:00 -
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 LMAO so op for heavys
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        |  Doyle Reese
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 422
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 18:58:00 -
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 I don't know, it seems like an Amarr grenade would be more like a flashbang, just blinding everyone with their
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        |  Beren Hurin
 Onslaught Inc
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1599
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 19:08:00 -
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 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=98738&find=unread was a proposition of mine earlier on. It pretty much just slowed stuff down, but trying to do a time-space thing would really screw up client/server synch issues....
 
 What happens when a 5 TON dropship, moving at 40 M/S hit's a sphere and 25% of it inside the sphere is moving 50% slower than the rest of it on the outside...unless somehow all mass entering the sphere immediately loses its inertia/gravity as a function of time it would collapse on itself and SHOULD be destroyed.
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        |  Ihlgigaris
 Force of The Gigas
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 19:12:00 -
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 That would be kinda cool, an area denial fire grenade. Maybe it could not necessarily directly cause damage, but lower the defense of armor due to thermal weakening. Maybe affected targets take 110% damage while on fire?
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        |  G Torq
 ALTA B2O
 
 228
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 19:14:00 -
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 Having an impact on the munition fired into the time-distortion-field, would mean that you're not guaranteed a kill, as you might be misjudging the motion of the person(s) caught inside of it.
 
 As long as the area of impact is fairly limited, and it affects players, vehicles (severe structural damage if only partially inside field), munition, explosions etc, I'd say go for it.
 
 But if it is based on wormhole tech, why not just create a mini-wormhold, and fork shite up?
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        |  Komodo Jones
 Chaotik Serenity
 
 120
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 19:23:00 -
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 Beren Hurin wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=98738&find=unread was a proposition of mine earlier on. It pretty much just slowed stuff down, but trying to do a time-space thing would really screw up client/server synch issues....
 What happens when a 5 TON dropship, moving at 40 M/S hit's a sphere and 25% of it inside the sphere is moving 50% slower than the rest of it on the outside...unless somehow all mass entering the sphere immediately loses its inertia/gravity as a function of time it would collapse on itself and SHOULD be destroyed.
 
 Fact, also that just gave me an idea, everyone has been talking about a deployable shield or defensive wall, why not combine these 2, instead of a bubble why not have a time shifted wall. if something was moving slow enough (like a person) they could travel through it just at reduced speed, however with anything moving too fast just implement a squash effect. For a vehicle moving very quickly or any projectile it would just act as a roadblock. Would also add the interesting mechanic of basically making the wall invincible, it's not like shooting at it would weaken the timeshifting strength as it would a shield, the only way to destroy it would be to get behind it and destroy the generator or just wait for it to run out of juice. Any thoughts on that?
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        |  ugg reset
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 386
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 19:24:00 -
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 sure but only if the grenades STD ADV and PRO are named stop stopa and stopaga respectivly =p
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        |  Shani Jeferzon
 Intergalactic Geneva Convention
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 20:37:00 -
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 All the races have their own grenades types, except for the Amarr. Drop uplinks (which look obviously Amarr) are wormhole technology, which show that the Amarr have some proficiency is manipulating spacetime. I propose an Amarr temporal grenade, inspired by the chrono grenades from Timeshift multiplayer.
 A temporal grenade creates a bubble in which time moves twice as slow. This means those caught in the bubble would move twice as slow, reload twice as slow, perform animations twice as slow, their guns would have half of their normal fire rate, they would stay in the air twice as long when jumping, and non-hitscan weapons would travel through the bubble twice as slow.
 There could be various variants with different bubble durations, bubble radii, etc.
 It would be a useful way to slow down enemies and... who am i kidding, this will never happen. It is way too awesome to ever happen in a game like Dust, i just lost hope while typing this
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 I feel this is an AWESOME idea for a fourth grenade type. A nice way to combat scouts and other fast moving things.
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        |  DeathwindRising
 ROGUE SPADES
 EoN.
 
 51
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 22:02:00 -
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 singularity grenade? works off of wormhole tech (wormholes are black holes afterall) so it would just pull targets towards itself and damage them.
 
 give it an area of effect and duration. also, target mass should affect the grenades ability to pull it. so a light siut would get pulled easier than a heavy suit would.
 
 and this would affect servers as bad as trying to slow time down.
 
 throw this thing at cru or in a hallway to trap or deny enemies lol
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        |  DJINN Marauder
 Ancient Exiles
 
 1245
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 22:25:00 -
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 Amazing idea! Tho its probly true we'll never see it happen :(
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        |  KING CHECKMATE
 TEAM SATISFACTION
 
 1119
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 22:27:00 -
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 If it slows down VEHICLES at well you have my like.
 
 Im tired of them tanks running away from my proto warms to hide.....
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        |  Aikuchi Tomaru
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 736
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 22:36:00 -
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 CCP Mintchip wrote:I really like this idea, it's a very neat grenade type! I think there was a similar grenade to this in Red Faction, and one that would reverse all control inputs on the afflicted.
 Not sure if this is something that is in the vision of DUST514, but it's definitely cool to talk about :)
 
 I would love you if you could introduce the Timeshift MP grenades which slow down time in an area, stop it or even reverse it. I guess introducing all that into the lore would be a pain in the ass though. Probably not even possible. But I'm sad the Timeshift MP didn't take off and I would love seeing it in another game. I think at least stuff like slowing down and stopping time would be possible to explain with the warp drive technology and so on.
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        |  Meeko Fent
 Seituoda Taskforce Command
 Caldari State
 
 923
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 23:53:00 -
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 Stasis Web gear.
 
 Gimme. I'll slow you down, and pop your delicious little head with my Militia Sniper.
 
 Would make the job of a sniper easier since nobody can camp obby consoles anymore.
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        |  Iskandar Zul Karnain
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 1708
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.16 23:56:00 -
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 Maybe the upcoming bombers could drop something like this.
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