TBH all small turrets are pretty terrible, and militia/standard versions are nearly incapable of killing (you are better exiting the vehicle and shooting with your militia AR).

Scout LAV with good gunner and good driver vs Most HAVs. Unfourtuantely weapon upgrades don't effect small turrets... wait one got to yell at CCP Wolfman about something.

I hate small rails for the heat build up though ><

Scout LAV with good gunner and good driver vs Most HAVs. Unfourtuantely weapon upgrades don't effect small turrets... wait one got to yell at CCP Wolfman about something.

I like running gunner but if you just have small rails, I'm just bumming a ride.
I've jumped in one HAV that had the proper setup for gunners; rear blaster and a rail gun. It was great going from the rail and destroying installations then switching seats to mow down infantry with the blaster. Even hopped out with a Forge and added some winning leverage to a couple tank fights.
I really wish I had noted his name. I'd donate ISK to his vehicle funds just for doing it right and a carpooling invite.

What are small rail turrets supposed to be for?..

Sniping


Its awesome when you have a LAV in one of the big towers in line of harvest? and start sniping ppl

Accelerated Missiles work better though

Small rails are only good to make people stay out of your tank :p

Seems a militia forge or sniper would be better for that. No cost for the vehicle and probably more damage.

Aren't small rails currently bugged? I was in a pub last Monday squaded with a Gunlogi pilot and that was his opinion. While hiding in his HAV (repping from a thrashing the reds gave) I tried out the small rail. It couldn't even hit stationary red-dots.

There are small turret upgrades on the market so I assumed these worked, I take it they dont?

Also I have seen and used a STD LAV and small missles to good effect against a HAV but I have never seen anyone attempting to use small rails against a HAV dont they do like half damage on vehicles and installations?

Bleh shows you how often I screw around with vehicle fits and also why the new powergrid skill absolutely effing sucks.

Small actives though then again I don't fit damage mods on my vehicles because I don't have the CPU to fit any of them and can't really tone down the tank because it is militia grade gear and its hard enough to live as it is on current battlefield environment. >-<

I know there are various kinds of activities that affect heat cycling mostly though but bleh been a while since I tinkered with my vehicle fits, I just about finished lvl 2ing all my suit modules and finally getting out of militia gear infantry wise I should be starting vehicles this week thanks to the 2x so hopefully I can possibly explore more types of fits then.

Passives should still affect all stated turrets.

Either way... It may be much safer for me to start saving SP instead for 1.5 considering what might happen then and it might be much better for me to try to forget how to operate vehicles as well for that patch as well so when I do get back into them on patch day I can approach it freshly.

we also need turret specilazation, +1damage per lv? meh.... said it 1k times and will say it more, when more turrets arrive bring back profincency turret skills, +2 damage per lv and at item tiers it gives the turret`s type of damage mod, a lot of balance logic to why that makes sense to do it but I think everyone that reads turret threads have heard it already.

Well CCP Wolfman will look at the entire shebang (Skills, Modules, Hulls, Environment, and Counters) when he does the 1.5 update. How through of a change he's not willing to share yet but is going to formulate something to you guys soon as he can.

Well CCP Wolfman will look at the entire shebang (Skills, Modules, Hulls, Environment, and Counters) when he does the 1.5 update. How through of a change he's not willing to share yet but is going to formulate something to you guys soon as he can.

Well I don't know how full in depth it will be. I mean he could go the nuke it from orbit deal or just simply go in and screw every number up to make it work right as it should. It will be through though and when he does announce it we will find out which route he took.

Also for things this massive they normally just state the dev blog link address and use the dev blog as supplemental patch notes.

im guessing he was moving? if you were both stationary then i dont know wtf is wrong with the turrets other than its accuracy is crap, but i do know if your moving they are worthless for hitting anything that isnt a huge target unless your very lucky

small turrets have always been and will always be useless unless CCP changes them in 1.5

Rather than being frustrated about the uselessness of small turrets i'm pissed that I HAVE to have them on my tank. Why cant i run around without small turrets on my tank? nfantry can run without a pistol or without a primary...... i might even be able to have some semblance of a realistic fit if i could get that extra pg/cpu, but no....

we also need turret specilazation, +1damage per lv? meh.... said it 1k times and will say it more, when more turrets arrive bring back profincency turret skills, +2 damage per lv and at item tiers it gives the turret`s type of damage mod, a lot of balance logic to why that makes sense to do it but I think everyone that reads turret threads have heard it already.

They need to do more DMG or something.