This would fix AFK and redline snipers but you must remember that killing them would mean hurting your teams' clone count.

This would fix AFK and redline snipers but you must remember that killing them would mean hurting your teams' clone count.

As opposed to what they add now, this is a minimal consideration.

no points awarded, and no sp pulled while inside the redline. this is the answer.

After ~20 seconds in the MCC all players become friendly-killable. Friendly fire kills in the MCC are worth +50.

funny thing is that this may actually work

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`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.

After ~20 seconds in the MCC all players become friendly-killable. Friendly fire kills in the MCC are worth +50

So I spawn into the MCC and kill all the killables in that 20 seconds and leave it to continue the game. This solution would move the AFK crowd to the ground where they are killable by reds through a variety of methods.

And then... Once on the ground any one who stops moving for a minute or more in the red zone starts a normal red zone timer killing them if they don't move.

So then people could AFK in the MCC and on the ground, but not without risk of dying - which is the risk we all take and all want the AFKers to take.

Have friend make alt, join same match and MCC afk. Kill friend then revive him and wait 20 seconds kill him then revive; do this for 15 minutes for an easy 2250 WP.

MMC AFK should be punished.
Redline sniping, should be left as is, both teams can do it, snipers can be countered. This is their tactic, they should be able to PLAY how they want to. AFKers aren't playing, redline snipers are. After what they did with the sniper damage, the Thales is the only one that hits like a sniper(charge does IF you head shot), and **** you if you think I'm taking my thales out on the field with all the bull **** infantry crap going on, mass driver spams, forge spams, lav spams, poor poor hit detection and aiming ..oh yeah and INVISIBLE PLAYERS, **** that

Have friend make alt, join same match and MCC afk. Kill friend then revive him and wait 20 seconds kill him then revive; do this for 15 minutes for an easy 2250 WP.

You can't perma revive - the friend couldn't be AFK. Also, you'd have to be lucky to get into the same side of the same match as well. Possible, but not consistent and a lot of work.

why not just drop them out of the mcc at a 60 second count . if they are not there then they just go splat

After ~20 seconds in the MCC all players become friendly-killable. Friendly fire kills in the MCC are worth +50

So I spawn into the MCC and kill all the killables in that 20 seconds and leave it to continue the game. This solution would move the AFK crowd to the ground where they are killable by reds through a variety of methods.

And then... Once on the ground any one who stops moving for a minute or more in the red zone starts a normal red zone timer killing them if they don't move.

So then people could AFK in the MCC and on the ground, but not without risk of dying - which is the risk we all take and all want the AFKers to take.

Factional warfare.

funny thing is that this may actually work

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`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.

What about when you're redlined?

do better next time ?

This guy must redline plink, or run with proto stompers.

If you penalize SP gain in general inside the redline, you've effectively screwed over every player that bothers to try to fight back on a redlined team (remember proto-stomping).

The people on the losing side effectively get no SP if you turn of SP-gain in the redline. That would make people drop rather than try to fight back at the point where they're redline (why fight back for no gain?). The empty slots on their team would get filled my solo players (often new players) that would then be getting thrust into losing games with no SP-gain. It would screw over new-player retention in that respect, if any game you join solo is likely to be on the losing side.

I'd keep the redlining problem in mind when you try to devise penalties for people existing inside of it.

If you penalize SP gain in general inside the redline, you've effectively screwed over every player that bothers to try to fight back on a redlined team (remember proto-stomping).

The people on the losing side effectively get no SP if you turn of SP-gain in the redline. That would make people drop rather than try to fight back at the point where they're redline (why fight back for no gain?). The empty slots on their team would get filled my solo players (often new players) that would then be getting thrust into losing games with no SP-gain. It would screw over new-player retention in that respect, if any game you join solo is likely to be on the losing side.

I'd keep the redlining problem in mind when you try to devise penalties for people existing inside of it.

From my experience most don't even try to fight back most will be sitting ducks in the redline trying to snipe, thats not fighting back as ths will never result in pushback of the enemy. Hell I have seen this in domination matches after they lost their objective the first time the whole team falls back in the redline thats basicly selfredlining!!.

This guy must redline plink, or run with proto stompers.

After ~20 seconds in the MCC all players become friendly-killable. Friendly fire kills in the MCC are worth +50

So I spawn into the MCC and kill all the killables in that 20 seconds and leave it to continue the game. This solution would move the AFK crowd to the ground where they are killable by reds through a variety of methods.

And then... Once on the ground any one who stops moving for a minute or more in the red zone starts a normal red zone timer killing them if they don't move.

So then people could AFK in the MCC and on the ground, but not without risk of dying - which is the risk we all take and all want the AFKers to take.

After ~20 seconds in the MCC all players become friendly-killable. Friendly fire kills in the MCC are worth +50

So I spawn into the MCC and kill all the killables in that 20 seconds and leave it to continue the game. This solution would move the AFK crowd to the ground where they are killable by reds through a variety of methods.

And then... Once on the ground any one who stops moving for a minute or more in the red zone starts a normal red zone timer killing them if they don't move.

So then people could AFK in the MCC and on the ground, but not without risk of dying - which is the risk we all take and all want the AFKers to take.