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Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 9	Posted - 2013.08.06 14:34:00 - [1] - Quote I don't normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed! The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together. Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played. BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice.
LRMXxX What The French CRONOS. 40	Posted - 2013.08.06 14:46:00 - [2] - Quote This makes so much sense. The main problem I find with MD is not is damage, it's the shakiness of the camera.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 10	Posted - 2013.08.06 17:12:00 - [3] - Quote Did I mention that this could potentially add RAM space? No? Well now you know.
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 189	Posted - 2013.08.06 17:13:00 - [4] - Quote That would save so little RAM that it is pointless to reduce it for that reason.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2013.08.06 18:36:00 - [5] - Quote But I gave more than one reason. It ruins gameplay.
A-P-P-Baby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 13	Posted - 2013.08.06 18:43:00 - [6] - Quote Sorry Cap'n, can't say I've ever really noticed it. Lord knows I will tonight though.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 178	Posted - 2013.08.06 19:00:00 - [7] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Did I mention that this could potentially add RAM space? No? Well now you know. Save the RAM, CCP! Camera shaking from MD is not that bad. Now, when a teammate bumps you, or you are moving down a slope or touching a wall, the camera goes totally crazy. I would prefer them addressing that first.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 13	Posted - 2013.08.06 20:14:00 - [8] - Quote A-P-P-Baby wrote: Sorry Cap'n, can't say I've ever really noticed it. Lord knows I will tonight though. Yes...yes...let the rage flow through you. Trust me, you will notice it and want to kill yourself. Flyingconejo wrote: Save the RAM, CCP! Camera shaking from MD is not that bad. QQ
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 2376	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:21:00 - [9] - Quote Agreed. I don't mind mass driver damage output, but when they're that disorientating it's silly trying to shoot back through the relentless barrage.
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 65	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:31:00 - [10] - Quote no , i like it

Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. League of Infamy 431	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:41:00 - [11] - Quote Funny, I haven't noticed it either. Doesn't seem to stop me from shooting MD users in the face so I'm not really bothered by it.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:57:00 - [12] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: no , i like it Why? Mobius Kaethis wrote: Funny, I haven't noticed it either. Doesn't seem to stop me from shooting MD users in the face so I'm not really bothered by it. I call shenanigans!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood 918	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:07:00 - [13] - Quote hasn't it already been reduced along with the removal of the 'smoke screen' effect it gave off?
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:41:00 - [14] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: hasn't it already been reduced along with the removal of the 'smoke screen' effect it gave off? First I heard of it. When was this? Even so, it's still pretty bad.
FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 109	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:19:00 - [15] - Quote Eh I'm usually against threads like this, if it's a big problem for you well eh Just don't touch the guns damage and radius. They finally got it right.
Cosgar ParagonX 3957	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:22:00 - [16] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: hasn't it already been reduced along with the removal of the 'smoke screen' effect it gave off? First I heard of it. When was this? Even so, it's still pretty bad. MD used to knock people's aim off balance back in beta. It was a poorly implemented mechanic and even MD users disliked it. The smoke was also more drastic in Chromosome, lingering around for several seconds instead of the little fart cloud we get now. I was never a fan of the camera shake myself, and I use the MD. I'd rather see this go away because it's too cheap.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:28:00 - [17] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Eh I'm usually against threads like this, if it's a big problem for you well eh Just don't touch the guns damage and radius. They finally got it right. Agreed
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:32:00 - [18] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: hasn't it already been reduced along with the removal of the 'smoke screen' effect it gave off? First I heard of it. When was this? Even so, it's still pretty bad. MD used to knock people's aim off balance back in beta. It was a poorly implemented mechanic and even MD users disliked it. The smoke was also more drastic in Chromosome, lingering around for several seconds instead of the little fart cloud we get now. I was never a fan of the camera shake myself, and I use the MD. I'd rather see this go away because it's too cheap. My memory must be failing me. I don't remember that in Chromosome.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2013.08.07 00:37:00 - [19] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: I don't normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed! The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together. Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played. BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice. Ever sinced flaylock has been nerfed MD has become more powerful
Spectre-M The Generals EoN. 24	Posted - 2013.08.07 02:21:00 - [20] - Quote Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever. The point is that a small detonation should (temporarily) hamper your dexterity/perception. it also adds to the feeling of immersion. I get explosions all around me and survive, only to smoke my aggressor in the dome and his friend as they go to reload. Some of the most fun I've had.

Lillica Deathdealer Mango and Friends 15	Posted - 2013.08.07 03:10:00 - [21] - Quote Good luck not being shaken by an explosion, bro. And while you're at it take away the camera shake when an AR hits me as I'm scoped in when sniping. I find it inconvenient, so please remove this game mechanic that makes perfect sense.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 215	Posted - 2013.08.07 03:56:00 - [22] - Quote It's more annoying than anything and i dont think an explosion that far away but not killing you would jerk your gun as if someone slapped the scope.Go use a tac again and youll see what im talking about
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1075	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:06:00 - [23] - Quote im sorry to break this to you but 6 round at 60RoF is over 6 seconds not 4. plus it help MD with their lower DPS compared to other CQC and mid range rifles so its not going away.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 20	Posted - 2013.08.07 20:49:00 - [24] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever. Realism? You're an immortal computer brain part that doesn't fear death. Lillica Deathdealer wrote: Good luck not being shaken by an explosion, bro. And while you're at it take away the camera shake when an AR hits me as I'm scoped in when sniping. I find it inconvenient, so please remove this game mechanic that makes perfect sense. Lol Snipers are rarely, if ever, suppose to get hit since they're so far away. Everyone else is getting hit in possibly every direction. You might be a bad sniper. Johnny Guilt wrote: It's more annoying than anything and i dont think an explosion that far away but not killing you would jerk your gun as if someone slapped the scope.Go use a tac again and youll see what im talking about Yeah, I use Tact AR every now and then. The recoil for ADS should be reduced, but that's for another thread. ladwar wrote: im sorry to break this to you but 6 round at 60RoF is over 6 seconds not 4. plus it help MD with their lower DPS compared to other CQC and mid range rifles so its not going away. I haven't looked at the MD stats in a while. I figured it was slightly more than 60 RPM. My mistake. Even so, the MD is still a good weapon, explosion effects just make it ridiculous.
WeapondigitX V7 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 65	Posted - 2013.08.08 09:43:00 - [25] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: I don't normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed! The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together. Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played. BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice. The camera shake should be reduced. Although I am fine with it being as high as it is when I am hit directly with explosive weapons.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1078	Posted - 2013.08.08 10:09:00 - [26] - Quote WeapondigitX V7 wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: I don't normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed! The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together. Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played. BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice. The camera shake should be reduced. Although I am fine with it being as high as it is when I am hit directly with explosive weapons. MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game. 138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would. even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS....
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.08.08 13:21:00 - [27] - Quote ladwar wrote: WeapondigitX V7 wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: I don't normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed! The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together. Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played. BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice. The camera shake should be reduced. Although I am fine with it being as high as it is when I am hit directly with explosive weapons. MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game. 138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would. even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS.... You're implying those AR guys have 100% accuracy all the time and the enemy isn't armor tanking.
Spectre-M The Generals EoN. 29	Posted - 2013.08.08 22:07:00 - [28] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: [quote=Spectre-M]Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever Realism? You're an immortal computer brain part that doesn't fear death.. It doesnt mean that the effect from an explosions shouldnt disorient, just because its a sci-fi game with immortals.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1082	Posted - 2013.08.08 22:37:00 - [29] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: ladwar wrote: WeapondigitX V7 wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: I don't normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed! The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together. Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played. BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice. The camera shake should be reduced. Although I am fine with it being as high as it is when I am hit directly with explosive weapons. MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game. 138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would. even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS.... You're implying those AR guys have 100% accuracy all the time and the enemy isn't armor tanking. even if they miss 50% of the time the MLT AR still beats the proto MD direct damage dps... and lol no one armor tanks and i don't know why but its like a massive fear players have, even heavies. shrug and pop flux........ woashhh! bang bang bang +50 kill
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.08.09 00:31:00 - [30] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: [quote=Spectre-M]Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever Realism? You're an immortal computer brain part that doesn't fear death.. It doesnt mean that the effect from an explosions shouldnt disorient, just because its a sci-fi game with immortals. Why not? It's still outrageous that some explosion not effecting me shakes my camera.



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