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Spectre-M
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:47:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Spectre-M wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:[quote=Spectre-M]Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever
Realism? You're an immortal computer brain part that doesn't fear death.. It doesnt mean that the effect from an explosions shouldnt disorient, just because its a sci-fi game with immortals. Why not? It's still outrageous that some explosion not effecting me shakes my camera.
Shockwave. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.09 10:58:00 -
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I had a long post, but I lose Internet connection.... thanks internet.
ladwar wrote:
MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits
the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game.
138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would.
even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS....
You're implying those AR guys have 100% accuracy all the time and the enemy isn't armor tanking.[/quote] even if they miss 50% of the time the MLT AR still beats the proto MD direct damage dps... and lol no one armor tanks and i don't know why but its like a massive fear players have, even heavies. *shrug and pop flux........ woashhh! bang bang bang* +50 kill
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I do use flux and so do smart MD users, your argument is invalid. The reason I said armor tanking is because ARs are slightly weak against armor. Don't try sell me that MD are underpowered, you're not mentioning the direct damage.
Camera shake just shouldn't be so common, especially when I'm not taking damage. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:00:00 -
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Spectre-M wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Spectre-M wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:[quote=Spectre-M]Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever
Realism? You're an immortal computer brain part that doesn't fear death.. It doesnt mean that the effect from an explosions shouldnt disorient, just because its a sci-fi game with immortals. Why not? It's still outrageous that some explosion not effecting me shakes my camera. Shockwave.
Shockwaves stun people, they don't create a mini earthquake that last a second. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:09:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:ladwar wrote:WeapondigitX V7 wrote:ladwar wrote:
MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits
the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game.
138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would.
even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS....
You're implying those AR guys have 100% accuracy all the time and the enemy isn't armor tanking. even if they miss 50% of the time the MLT AR still beats the proto MD direct damage dps... and lol no one armor tanks and i don't know why but its like a massive fear players have, even heavies. *shrug and pop flux........ woashhh! bang bang bang* +50 kill I do use flux and so do smart MD users, your argument is invalid. The reason I said armor tanking is because ARs are slightly weak against armor. Don't try sell me that MD are underpowered, you're not mentioning the direct damage. Camera shake just shouldn't be so common, especially when I'm not taking damage.
actually that was the only thing i was talking about was direct damage. please learn to read better. and you don't/shouldn't need to be in range to receive damage for it to shake. MD in damage are weak for damage but make up for it in other area.. wait i feel like i have said this before... i have. its like talking to bricks but more creepy to do so.
and if your going to quote do it right i hate fix other people quoting |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
22
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:32:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:ladwar wrote:WeapondigitX V7 wrote:ladwar wrote:
MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits
the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game.
138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would.
even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS....
You're implying those AR guys have 100% accuracy all the time and the enemy isn't armor tanking. even if they miss 50% of the time the MLT AR still beats the proto MD direct damage dps... and lol no one armor tanks and i don't know why but its like a massive fear players have, even heavies. *shrug and pop flux........ woashhh! bang bang bang* +50 kill I do use flux and so do smart MD users, your argument is invalid. The reason I said armor tanking is because ARs are slightly weak against armor. Don't try sell me that MD are underpowered, you're not mentioning the direct damage. Camera shake just shouldn't be so common, especially when I'm not taking damage. actually that was the only thing i was talking about was direct damage. please learn to read better. and you don't/shouldn't need to be in range to receive damage for it to shake. MD in damage are weak for damage but make up for it in other area.. wait i feel like i have said this before... i have. its like talking to bricks but more creepy to do so. and you never told me how my point was invalid you just said you use the same combo and if your going to quote do it right i hate fix other people quoting; you didn't even hit the limit on quotes so why you mess it up?
I'm using a phone, give me a break for not quoting correctly. Touch screens suck.
And the argument is invalid because we both have the same gear so should have an equal chance of winning. Of course, there are other factors like positioning and strategy involved.
I forgot mention in the last post that most people don't have 50% accuracy. My source? Well Dust doesn't count accuracy that I'm aware of, but BF3 and almost all CoDs do (lolcod). Those games have massive aim-assist and common accuracy range between 15-35%. Anything outside that range is uncommon. And Dust, as of now, doesn't have aim-assist. I'm not going to do the stats of what this adds up to because I need to get back to work.
As for me misreading direct and splash damage......oops. Doesn't change the fact that AR and SMG users aren't as accurate as you think. It may be even less accurate in this game because- wait for it......camera shake.
And way to make it personal by comparing me to bricks. I never attempted to insult you. Good job. The term is "brick wall" by the way. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
22
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Posted - 2013.08.10 12:49:00 -
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Just did the math. Assuming that the AR user has 25% accuracy, the DPS is 106.25.
It's 134.16 for the SMG if the accuracy is 35%. Very few people are this accurate.
Note these are for the basic versions of the weapons and these numbers are most likely even lower if there are explosions everywhere.
My point stands, reduce or remove camera shake. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
27
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Posted - 2013.08.17 12:30:00 -
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I heard someone made a similar thread after I made this one, so I'm bumping it. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
366
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:52:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:I normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed!
The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together.
Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played.
BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice. Ever sinced flaylock has been nerfed MD has become more powerful
No..... the mass driver hasnt changed.... and honestly never noticed the camera shake because I don't stay still. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
29
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:12:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:. and honestly never noticed the camera shake because I don't stay still.
What does that even mean? It effects you whether you're moving or not. |
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