Mass Drivers should just go back to 4 shots a clip.

Mass Drivers should just go back to 4 shots a clip.

As a Heavy, there is literally no way for me to avoid an even poorly placed MD shell. The radius is just too large, and I am just too slow.

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Ever stopped to think that the MD might be your hard counter? Even with reduced radius, a skilled MD user is still going to pop you.

Mass Drivers should just go back to 4 shots a clip.

Everything is a 'hard counter' to a heavy, while the HMG is a hard counter to basically nothing. Your argument is less valid.

Everything is a 'hard counter' to a heavy, while the HMG is a hard counter to basically nothing. Your argument is less valid.

(Ughhh, not this again)

The MD is an area denial, anti-rush weapon by design. It has horrendous DPS, (lower than a MLT AR) a slow moving projectile with falloff, low field longevity, slow reload speed, and it's useless against elevated opponents. People complain about it because they try engage a MD user in their primary situation and win. I've been using the MD since Chrome, during the nerf/bug at the start of Uprising, and I'm still using it now. Aside from the sight still being kind of useless, the MD is actually in a really good place with damage/splash, even if both are significantly lower compared to Chrome and dropsuit EHP got a significant buff.
If you see a MD on the kill feed, be careful in areas that have elevation and run the hell away when you start to take damage, not when your shields are down. It's called an area denial weapon because it's supposed to have enough of a radius and deal enough damage to deny someone of an area.

Good points....exceeeeeept, on every map the sequence of events for a mass driver is as follows:

1. Get lift from dropship, or your own, by crashlanding it on the highest peak/building top.

2. Spam rounds infinitely, due to the fact the user is also a logi with a vast quantity of nanohives.

3. Repeat.

Good points....exceeeeeept, on every map the sequence of events for a mass driver is as follows:

1. Get lift from dropship, or your own, by crashlanding it on the highest peak/building top.

2. Spam rounds infinitely, due to the fact the user is also a logi with a vast quantity of nanohives.

3. Repeat.

Everything is a 'hard counter' to a heavy, while the HMG is a hard counter to basically nothing. Your argument is less valid.

Hello,

What you are experiencing is not a "Stealth nerf". It is updated weapon profiles that we detailed in our latest dev blog.

Thank you for your feedback.

Which ones? There are 3 kinds and they each have different clip sizes. If you are suggesting all of them, then you don't understand variants and you don't realize how dumb this idea is. Either way, I don't think you get mass drivers.

If you could only have 4 shots, with anything other than a ADV breach MD or Freedom MD, you would have to get 100% direct hits with your entire clip, and even then, heavily shielded players would likely survive. 4 shots takes like 3-4 seconds.

Imagine asking an AR player to require 3-4 seconds of continuous uninterupted 100% accuracy to kill another player...

Since when do AR's have splash radius?

(Ughhh, not this again)

The MD is an area denial, anti-rush weapon by design. It has horrendous DPS, (lower than a MLT AR) a slow moving projectile with falloff, low field longevity, slow reload speed, and it's useless against elevated opponents. People complain about it because they try engage a MD user in their primary situation and win. I've been using the MD since Chrome, during the nerf/bug at the start of Uprising, and I'm still using it now. Aside from the sight still being kind of useless, the MD is actually in a really good place with damage/splash, even if both are significantly lower compared to Chrome and dropsuit EHP got a significant buff.
If you see a MD on the kill feed, be careful in areas that have elevation and run the hell away when you start to take damage, not when your shields are down. It's called an area denial weapon because it's supposed to have enough of a radius and deal enough damage to deny someone of an area.

Before you hiss at me, hear me out on this.
I have a feeling that the fix to splash radius, where before even if you were right over the explosive it won't do damage, fixed this weapon and it's now a fine weapon without the increased splash radius.

I just want to see how it acts if they remove the buff for a week or so and see how it behaves.
If it's once again bad restore the buff, otherwise keep it.

This isn't just a request from me, I see a lot of people claiming this too in different threads, I say, put the theory to the test.

all explosives should have huge blast radius's......thay are explosives after all

Oh so you're ok with the flaylock right?

Using real life as an example doesn't prove any point, other than understanding of real life >_>
Unless it's ARMA, in which case that's fine.

The flaylock isn't the problem, it's flaylock spam and its accessibility through low fitting costs. Damage/splash should stay the same, just need to stop every suit from being able to fit it so easily and reduce the DPS indirectly through nerfing the RoF or reload speed.

(Ughhh, not this again)

The MD is an area denial, anti-rush weapon by design. It has horrendous DPS, (lower than a MLT AR) a slow moving projectile with falloff, low field longevity, slow reload speed, and it's useless against elevated opponents. People complain about it because they try engage a MD user in their primary situation and win. I've been using the MD since Chrome, during the nerf/bug at the start of Uprising, and I'm still using it now. Aside from the sight still being kind of useless, the MD is actually in a really good place with damage/splash, even if both are significantly lower compared to Chrome and dropsuit EHP got a significant buff.
If you see a MD on the kill feed, be careful in areas that have elevation and run the hell away when you start to take damage, not when your shields are down. It's called an area denial weapon because it's supposed to have enough of a radius and deal enough damage to deny someone of an area.

You know that won't fix that right?
People will gladly give up their main weapon because this weapon is amazing, and unless it shoots once every 2.5 seconds a ROF change won't do squat.

Do splash weapons deal less damage over range? If I'm 0.1m outside the splash radius, do I take 0 damage? If I'm 0.1m inside the splash radius, do I take full damage?

If it doesn't already, splash damage should use the weapon range system.