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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:29:00 -
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Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are?
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:37:00 -
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Middle aged fat guys that play dust 514. |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are?
They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW.
That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:40:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Middle aged fat guys that play dust 514. I'm asking about Z Platoon, not the DUST 514 community as a whole.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:46:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. Meanwhile on the Gallente side:
All are welcome! As long as you're not an ass or a Caldari Loyalist!
*Instant channel population boom*
It also helps to have the main Flag Bearers of the Gallente promoting your channel.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:49:00 -
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We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.
Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.
As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.
Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13441
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are?
They were originally a group who started working on Caldari FW alongside Kirjun Heiian, a channel comprised of long a few Caldari RPers, EVE pilots, and was somewhat the De Facto channel for Cal FW as I understand it.
Initially Z Platoon competed and worked with Kirjuun, eventually using scathing accusations that Kirjuun was a channel filled with scrubs and poor players, poaching some of what were perceived as the top tier players, and casting out anyone who did not meet their "standards"...... as I am told from several members of the Caldari Militia
As I saw it at the time..... it was the channel that fractured Cal FW, and for all its successes to its members has never truly served as a channel that would or could unite the Caldari militia.
Though I am now informed its original founder is no longer at its head. I can only assume its changed hands the channel is something different entirely.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1350
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:51:00 -
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Oh and taken right from the horses mouth : linky
"It's a public channel, it must be filled with scrubs. Everyone in z platoon is good".
I can speak from all sorts of FW experience, it's not about having good players, its about having organized players - being able to give even militia suits enough direction to have uplinks for people to spawn in on at plenty of locations will win far more faction warfare matches than not.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13441
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:52:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.
Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.
As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.
Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.
The mere fact you are willing to label players as scrubs and not allow them into your channel actively fractures the tiny militia you guys had...... it is a poor choice of tactics for a game mode that required round the clock activity and large number of players.
Amarr Militia ran several small corporations to include and train newer FW participants, headed if I remember correctly by Nocturnal Soul and another active Militia participant.
FW is wholly based on how many people you can bring to the fray and key timezones each day.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:53:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people.
Ah, so pretty much the people CCP is seeking to avoid by nixing the whole console thing for Legion. +1
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1350
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:53:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.
Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.
As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.
Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:54:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people.
Post had me rolling when you called us mediocre. you're hilarious. Sorry we choose to have a password protected chat that's our choice. There's no application process for Z platoon, you simply have to know someone who's in the room and be a good player. As for spamming mails, I know nothing about that as I don't bring in anyone into the room. Having an open room allows spies to listen in on your coms. We've had problems with that in the past and that's why it's password protected. Everyone has some twisted perspective of our group, we have a blast together and cut up all the time. We're not assholes, there's one or two but they don't speak for the whole group. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7880
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:57:00 -
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And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1350
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:58:00 -
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I've played with you people. You are mediocre, Elitist and mediocre. You treat FW like it's a secret special club for just the cool kids rather than a game mode that should be open and available to anyone.
Also, hilarious paranoia about spies.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1354
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:59:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW.
Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:01:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13448
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:02:00 -
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Actually as I mentioned before this isolationist policy and unwillingness to work with new blood is part of the reason the Gallente are succeeding the way they are.
Rather that serve as leaders of the Miltias and public figure heads for united and concentrated activity as groups like Carbon 7, New Age Outlaws, IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES, PIE Inc, Prima Gallicus their breaking down the small Caldari militia into fragments.
This is where Lucent Echelon is succeeding.
All 3 of the players I would actively associate with Gallente FW are working on this channel. They publicly announced it and opened it, and as I recall have it moderated as an EVE channel. Who wouldn't want to work with 3 forum goers who are actively working toward the unity and betterment of their faction.
Hell even now Aero, myself, and the other Classiarii are getting nostalgic for an FW tour.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:02:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Having an open room allows spies to listen in on your coms. We've had problems with that in the past and that's why it's password protected. Can you list some examples?
Honestly I think the mass paranoia from your orginization is unfounded, as very few Gallente loyalists resort to sabotage, as there's not much to gain from it other than avoiding having an OB dropped every match or so.
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:03:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. That essentially covers it. They are a group of people who do Caldari FW, that coordinate their queue syncs from the "Z PLATOON 13 " channel. It was originally started by Z 13 from Hellstorm. People blame them for the lackluster Caldari FW experience because if all of the best players migrate to one channel and leave everyone else out, then the Z Platoon queue syncs play only with each other, the rest of the populous lack the punch of the better players, and loose to even a slightly organized Gallente force. People don't bother forming up when they loose anyway, and with no pilots because they get swiped by Z platoon, nobody has any reason to coordinate a Caldari effort.
In short, this small "elite" group wins their matches (often by camping CRUs/objectives to clone them out rather than swiftly win the match, or by quitting when things get remotely tough), and the rest of Cal FW fights without their star players. Not a problem for me as I have my own little group with pilots, and dislike queue syncs, and I don't care who wins the war, but hard for those without high levels of experience/SP in dust. Channels like PIE Ground Control for the Amarr work nicely because they let everyone in, and that allows mediocre players to learn teamwork/strategy/tactics/fitting/other game info from people who are more experienced, thus making them better players. And it gives pilots 1 channel for when they want to do strikes, which makes it easier to get new pilots. A good FW community makes a big difference in overall victories for a faction.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13448
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:04:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them.
Indeed and this is a problem that could be fixed if you widened your scope, opened up to newer blood, made contact with more Cal FW capsuleers, and called for outside intervention by Amarr FWers.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7880
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Having an open room allows spies to listen in on your coms. We've had problems with that in the past and that's why it's password protected. Can you list some examples? Honestly I think the mass paranoia from your orginization is unfounded, as very few Gallente loyalists resort to sabotage, as there's not much to gain from it other than avoiding having an OB dropped every match or so. Lucent Echelon is pretty big and the most I've had to deal with are State Loyalist trolls that smack talked and were jokingly banned (for only 5 minutes) but it's funny to me.
Eventually they decided to just join Lucent Echelon because we are just too cool for school.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:09:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW. Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players.
Please don't blame your rooms failing on us. The main reason everyone loves running with Z platoon is because we are so organized... it's not our fault players gravitated towards our room. I was in Kirjuun for pretty much ever. I honestly just deleted it from my list. Why? Because it's a ******* ghost town for the most part with no direction and no one on coms and it was pretty much always that way. How the hell can you qsync when no one was ever on a mic in your room? Hell Caldari Elite State Army or whatever was more successful than Kirjuun ever has been and all they do is spam invites to Caldari players... |
Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:12:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Having an open room allows spies to listen in on your coms. We've had problems with that in the past and that's why it's password protected. Can you list some examples? Honestly I think the mass paranoia from your orginization is unfounded, as very few Gallente loyalists resort to sabotage, as there's not much to gain from it other than avoiding having an OB dropped every match or so.
We've had entire corporations invade our chat by someone giving access to the wrong person. They come in and spam the chat making it hard to squad up and then are just obnoxious on coms. We've had to delete and restart our room several times which is why it's been depleted of players lately.
We've also had entire teams qsync against us. That's no big deal until they have someone who's on the other team that's also in our room. When they know what you're planning on doing it gives a huge advantage and has happened a few times in the past.
Our room is secluded mainly because of trolls. Not because of elitism.
EDIT: Also we've had EVE pilots spy our channel and block our pilots. That was one of the main problems with Kirjuun. |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1354
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:18:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW. Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players. Please don't blame your rooms failing on us. The main reason everyone loves running with Z platoon is because we are so organized... it's not our fault players gravitated towards our room. I was in Kirjuun for pretty much ever. I honestly just deleted it from my list. Why? Because it's a ******* ghost town for the most part with no direction and no one on coms and it was pretty much always that way. How the hell can you qsync when no one was ever on a mic in your room? Hell Caldari Elite State Army or whatever was more successful than Kirjuun ever has been and all they do is spam invites to Caldari players...
It wasn't ever 'my room', it was listed as the caldari militia channel quite some time ago, along with pie for the amarr and others for gallente and minmatar.
I was disappointed by it being a ghost town as well, so I tried to gather as many players as I could to fill it, I got into contact with *four* caldari fw alliances in eve... and what happened after I left it for a week because I had real life stuff to deal with? It was back to being completely dead - because Z platoon sniped the pilots and the star players. I know people had talks with members of z platoon about getting them to try and work with amarr FW players and people in the kirjuun heiian channel... and the response was the same tired tripe you're spouting now "PUBLIC CHANNEL, SPIES, SCRUBS" repeated ad nauseum.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:30:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote: It wasn't ever 'my room', it was listed as the caldari militia channel quite some time ago in a ccp stickied thread, along with pie for the amarr and others for gallente and minmatar. My corp name is simply a Homage to the phrase the channel was named after.
I was disappointed by it being a ghost town as well, so I tried to gather as many players as I could to fill it, I got into contact with *four* caldari fw alliances in eve... and what happened after I left it for a week because I had real life stuff to deal with? It was back to being completely dead - because Z platoon sniped the pilots and the star players. I know people had talks with members of z platoon about getting them to try and work with amarr FW players and people in the kirjuun heiian channel... and the response was the same tired tripe you're spouting now "PUBLIC CHANNEL, SPIES, SCRUBS" repeated ad nauseum.
Kirjuun had good players but like I said in another post EVE pilots were getting spied on and having fleets wait for them when they would attempt to aid us. Spies are a real thing. The public channel hurt Kirjuun it's as simple as that. By scrubs we just mean we don't want you running militia gear. I'm in a 200K suit and we're not getting ISK. I want my bros running their best fits when they're watching my back. That's what we mean by scrubs. So no we're not really helping the new player experience but faction warfare to me isn't really for new players. PC and FW is where proto gear is meant to be run. In my eyes anyway.
Did you ever attempt to squad with us? If you did, you would have realized we're not a bad bunch. Everyone gravitated around one guy Z 13. I've never really seen anything like it, honestly, this dude was just a good organizer and when he talked everyone listened. When you're pretty much guaranteed a win when you squad with us, people are going to flock to the room. Since he rarely plays anymore we've fallen off a little but we still get together and kick ass. Instead of complaining about us you should try and squad with us. Hit me up in game and I'll invite you. |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1354
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:49:00 -
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So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely ****ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:57:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely ****ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn.
Remember their names at all? I honestly can only think of one ******* and I struggle to deal with him myself.
Everyone else is cool. |
Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
57
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Posted - 2014.10.10 05:03:00 -
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Gentlemen and ladies, becalm yourselves, do not lose sight of the true enemy. Also "Kirjuun Heiian" a public channel for caldari fw, get in there, help each other, help the state war machine grow........or not COS DEY ARR AULL SKRUBZZ
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1359
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Posted - 2014.10.10 05:14:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely ****ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn. Remember their names at all? I honestly can only think of one ******* and I struggle to deal with him myself. Everyone else is cool.
This isn't about the attitudes of individuals, though you've presented yourself in quite a poor manner with the whole 'people in public channels are scrubs'. It's about your attitude as an entity.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:07:00 -
[30] - Quote
MINA Longstrike wrote:
This isn't about the attitudes of individuals, though you've presented yourself in quite a poor manner with the whole 'people in public channels are scrubs'. It's about your attitude as an entity.
Now you're twisting my words, I said we don't have scrubs not that pub channel players are scrubs. I'm in a bunch of pub chat FW channels. I was listing pub chat as the Kirjuun demise and it was. At one point Kirjuun was booming, the EVE pilots left because we'd post our location and they'd get attacked. Z Platoon was more secure so they went there. That's pretty much all that happened and it wasn't even a big deal as it was only like two pilots.You're blaming Z platoon for Kirjuun's demise and it wasn't the problem. Kirjuun lacked organization and it slowly died off after and as I remember things Z Platoon wasn't even password protected until a few months ago when we started having problems. It just wasn't broadcasted all over the forums for everyone to know about. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18064
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:10:00 -
[31] - Quote
The Lucent Echelon channel hasn't really had serious problems with trolls and spies. The advantages to being open and having a channel of 40+ people tend to outweigh the disadvantages of having to remove the odd weed. With EVE moderation it is not difficult to deal with these things.
I'm pretty convinced that if CalMil managed to get a couple of figureheads and started a rallying cry they could get a respectable effort going. As it is I'm hearing of a dozen different tiny channels and a handful of 'elite' passworded channels. Having actually run both a passworded channel and a public channel I can tell you that the public one has been a hell of a lot more successful. Yes, we have had trolls. Then we kick them. It may be easy to spy on us, but this has never become a problem because the Caldari have been unable to organise an adequate force to beat us on the ground.
The forums have ruined me.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1361
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:29:00 -
[32] - Quote
Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Now you're twisting my words, I said we don't have scrubs not that pub channel players are scrubs. Split hairs as much as you like, but that essentially what you're saying, especially when combined with statements like "We only play with people that are *good*".
Mike Ox Bigger wrote:I'm in a bunch of pub chat FW channels. I was listing pub chat as the Kirjuun demise and it was. At one point Kirjuun was booming, the EVE pilots left because we'd post our location and they'd get attacked. Z Platoon was more secure so they went there. That's pretty much all that happened and it wasn't even a big deal as it was only like two pilots.You're blaming Z platoon for Kirjuun's demise and it wasn't the problem. Kirjuun lacked organization and it slowly died off after and as I remember things Z Platoon wasn't even password protected until a few months ago when we started having problems. It just wasn't broadcasted all over the forums for everyone to know about.
Riiiiight... which is why z platoon was practically outright hostile when Pie asked to do stuff together, and why you guys regularly try to snipe players / pilots and refuse to even cooperate with pickup groups from other channels, and why when tons of your players were asked to join public channels to simply *form* pickup groups the response was largely "NOPE SPAIS" and "WHY THE **** WOULD I DO THAT!?!?".
Anyways, I and many others have said more than enough about how damaging to the caldari effort your attitude is, you clearly haven't really heard a word anyone has said to you, maybe you should just go back to your channel full of c*nts - er, I mean cool kids.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
1907
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:36:00 -
[33] - Quote
I can't speak for z platoon before I joined. I'm also not a power player, and diplomacy and coordinating more than a squad size element isn't my forte. All I can say is this: since I joined z platoon coming on 6 months ago, I have never seen a loss. I've never seen us run with less than 10, because we both enjoy the win, enjoy some roleplay to take back Caldari Prime, and enjoy the organization of it. We are stricter than other few channels I've been in, but co siderably less strict than a pc match.
Personally I enjoy the strictness, but I was in the military for 4 years and that kind of mindset is familiar to me. I can understand certain people being put off from it, but it gives us an advantage over our enemies that frequently nets us a win with Mike imam clone loss. I've run full syncs with z platoon where we lose less than 10 clones, and I believe it is due to the coordination and strictness with which we operate.
I don't know what went on with Lucent Echelon, but many of my in-game friends I met through Z Platoon, and I've never felt like they act untoward at blueberries, other than to laugh when they do something silly. I don't really pay attention to things that aren't defeating the enemy, but I feel like a lot of flak directed at z platoon is misguided.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:45:00 -
[34] - Quote
MINA Longstrike wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Now you're twisting my words, I said we don't have scrubs not that pub channel players are scrubs. Split hairs as much as you like, but that essentially what you're saying, especially when combined with statements like "We only play with people that are *good*". Mike Ox Bigger wrote:I'm in a bunch of pub chat FW channels. I was listing pub chat as the Kirjuun demise and it was. At one point Kirjuun was booming, the EVE pilots left because we'd post our location and they'd get attacked. Z Platoon was more secure so they went there. That's pretty much all that happened and it wasn't even a big deal as it was only like two pilots.You're blaming Z platoon for Kirjuun's demise and it wasn't the problem. Kirjuun lacked organization and it slowly died off after and as I remember things Z Platoon wasn't even password protected until a few months ago when we started having problems. It just wasn't broadcasted all over the forums for everyone to know about. Riiiiight... which is why z platoon was practically outright hostile when Pie asked to do stuff together, and why you guys regularly try to snipe players / pilots and refuse to even cooperate with pickup groups from other channels, and why when tons of your players were asked to join public channels to simply *form* pickup groups the response was largely "NOPE SPAIS" and "WHY THE **** WOULD I DO THAT!?!?". Anyways, I and many others have said more than enough about how damaging to the caldari effort your attitude is, you clearly haven't really heard a word anyone has said to you, maybe you should just go back to your channel full of c*nts - er, I mean cool kids.
You're talking to someone who was in Kirjuun up until like three days ago and from the very beginning. I've been in pretty much every public Cal chat that's been listed on the forums. As far as PIE goes I have no idea what went on with that nor had anything to do with it. I only squad with them occasionally but I've been a member since the beginning so I felt the need to defend them as I know for the majority we are a good group of people. I'm also in PIE and Amarr123, when I first started playing there I experienced problems not getting picked up in a squad until I finally listed I had 40mil SP because I wasn't very well known so pubs have circles in them too.
And I'm in pretty much all the well known pub chat channels for all factions. In almost all of them are other members of Z Platoon. |
Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
108
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:52:00 -
[35] - Quote
Alena Ventrallis wrote:I can't speak for z platoon before I joined. I'm also not a power player, and diplomacy and coordinating more than a squad size element isn't my forte. All I can say is this: since I joined z platoon coming on 6 months ago, I have never seen a loss. I've never seen us run with less than 10, because we both enjoy the win, enjoy some roleplay to take back Caldari Prime, and enjoy the organization of it. We are stricter than other few channels I've been in, but co siderably less strict than a pc match.
Personally I enjoy the strictness, but I was in the military for 4 years and that kind of mindset is familiar to me. I can understand certain people being put off from it, but it gives us an advantage over our enemies that frequently nets us a win with Mike imam clone loss. I've run full syncs with z platoon where we lose less than 10 clones, and I believe it is due to the coordination and strictness with which we operate.
I don't know what went on with Lucent Echelon, but many of my in-game friends I met through Z Platoon, and I've never felt like they act untoward at blueberries, other than to laugh when they do something silly. I don't really pay attention to things that aren't defeating the enemy, but I feel like a lot of flak directed at z platoon is misguided.
A lot of the talk about Z platoon is how instead of embracing other players and being one of the faces of caldari militia effort, they've instead simply been damaging to the community. Across most other factions people have stepped up to be leaders, ambassadors, teachers, organizers and fighters for their respective faction, this takes insane amounts of work and effort... There is crazy amounts of cooperation between them. This hasn't happened for the Caldari because it seems like every time someone tries it there is either little interest or there's a lot of backbiting and underhanded stuff going on, even simple whispers of "Come join my Private Channel you won't have to play with scrubs there" is damaging beyond belief and countless people have evidenced that such things are happening and with frequency.
Z platoon is not unifying, It isn't leading, it isn't teaching and it certainly isn't open and accepting, instead it's back room deals and 'private clubs' where in the words of someone who has identified as a member 'you need to know someone to get in' with the lazy excuse of 'spies' and 'trolls' as a reason.
You don't need to know anyone to get into Pie Ground Control or Amarr123. You don't need to know anyone to get into Lucent Echelon, or any of the various minmatar channels, you just need to know the channel name.
Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
108
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:55:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:You're talking to someone who was in Kirjuun up until like three days ago and from the very beginning. I've been in pretty much every public Cal chat that's been listed on the forums. As far as PIE goes I have no idea what went on with that nor had anything to do with it. I only squad with them occasionally but I've been a member since the beginning so I felt the need to defend them as I know for the majority we are a good group of people. I'm also in PIE and Amarr123, when I first started playing there I experienced problems not getting picked up in a squad until I finally listed I had 40mil SP because I wasn't very well known so pubs have circles in them too.
And I'm in pretty much all the well known pub chat channels for all factions. In almost all of them are other members of Z Platoon.
Was that when chicagocubs4ever was present? Because honestly there were talks among pie leadership about banning him and his corp from the channel for that elitist attitude, which wasn't all that dissimilar from the one maintained by z platoon.
Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5340
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Posted - 2014.10.10 07:07:00 -
[37] - Quote
Malleus Malificorum wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:You're talking to someone who was in Kirjuun up until like three days ago and from the very beginning. I've been in pretty much every public Cal chat that's been listed on the forums. As far as PIE goes I have no idea what went on with that nor had anything to do with it. I only squad with them occasionally but I've been a member since the beginning so I felt the need to defend them as I know for the majority we are a good group of people. I'm also in PIE and Amarr123, when I first started playing there I experienced problems not getting picked up in a squad until I finally listed I had 40mil SP because I wasn't very well known so pubs have circles in them too.
And I'm in pretty much all the well known pub chat channels for all factions. In almost all of them are other members of Z Platoon. Was that when chicagocubs4ever was present? Because honestly there were talks among pie leadership about banning him and his corp from the channel for that elitist attitude, which wasn't all that dissimilar from the one maintained by z platoon. Over banning is why i eventually left PIE chat, i got my EVE characters ban just because they were not in an FW corp although my Dust player played dust, so eventually i just got annoyed of typing with PS3 keyboard and moved on.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 07:08:00 -
[38] - Quote
Malleus Malificorum wrote: "Come join my Private Channel you won't have to play with scrubs there" is damaging beyond belief and countless people have evidenced that such things are happening and with frequency.
Z platoon is not unifying, It isn't leading, it isn't teaching and it certainly isn't open and accepting, instead it's back room deals and 'private clubs' where in the words of someone who has identified as a member 'you need to know someone to get in' with the lazy excuse of 'spies' and 'trolls' as a reason.
You don't need to know anyone to get into Pie Ground Control or Amarr123. You don't need to know anyone to get into Lucent Echelon, or any of the various minmatar channels, you just need to know the channel name.
Okay the whole not having to play with scrubs is not Z Platoons ideals that was just me and my perspective. When I go into Z Platoon I know we are organized and I'm not playing with someone who sucks. That's my perspective and my preference but that's not what Z Platoon is about. We have plenty of new players in our chat.
Like I said earlier we were a public chat up until about four months ago when we became more well known and started getting trolled and attacked then we became a private chat. We never tell people they suck and can't run with us, that has never happened as far as I know. We are just a little strict with how we run our battles and we're gonna give you a little **** if you're not in atleast advanced gear :)
With needing to know someone to get in... that's because it's private so you gotta be invited now, you can't just type in the chat name anymore. Which limits us but we really don't have a problem with that. There's always plenty of people to squad up with.
My whole point is whatever instances happened in the past doesn't represent Z Platoon as a whole. There's no leader to decide anything, we're just a group of players. One persons actions or disagreeing with someone shouldn't define the whole group. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
5341
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Posted - 2014.10.10 07:20:00 -
[39] - Quote
Holy sh*t the tears, let me explain something to the people who don't seem to get it. People can play anyway they want with whoever they want if they want to set up chats where they can sit and circle jerk from the time they log on to the time they log off they can. it is no bodies call to tell them they should not be doing that. You are not owed anything from these people they do not work for you they are playing the game in the way they want to play it may you deemed wrong or evil. But it is up to you to tell people what they should be having fun in a video game.
There are people who want FW to not be looked as just another pub match yet everyone is now suppose to be friendly and helpful towards each other. There are FW corps in EVE that you will not get into unless you meet a strict set of requirements because that is the way they enjoy playing if you don't like it, make something yourself but don't fault them for the way they are playing the game.
Not everyone needs to be a Dust Uni you need some elitist ass holes thrown in there also to mix things up or it gets stale and boring. This is not burger king you can't have it your way here, deal with it or produce more tears for my tear jar.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 07:25:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Holy sh*t the tears, let me explain something to the people who don't seem to get it. People can play an way they want with whoever they want if they want to set up chats where they can sit and circle jerk from the time they log on to the time they log off they can. it is no bodies call to tell them they should not be doing that. You are not owed anything from these people they do not work for you they are playing the game in the way they want to play it may you deemed wrong or evil. But it is up to you to tell people what they should be having fun in a video game.
There are people who want FW to not be looked as just another pub match yet everyone is now suppose to be friendly and helpful towards each other. There are FW corps in EVE that you will not get into unless you meet a strict set of requirements because that is the way they enjoy playing if you don't like it, make something yourself but don't fault them for the way they are playing the game.
Exactly. If you want to play with noobs and bring them along go join Dust University. FW is supposed to mimic PC which is why when we play it we treat it like so. It's not everyone's cup of tea but it's ours and it works for us. |
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
59
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Posted - 2014.10.10 07:33:00 -
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Soooooooooooo.... You're all gonna jump into kirjuun heiian channel? Why not eh? Come fight with me! Come fight with all caldari milita! Plus we are experimenting with interesting OB ships Join "KIRJUUN HEIIAN"
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 07:34:00 -
[42] - Quote
Malleus Malificorum wrote: Was that when chicagocubs4ever was present? Because honestly there were talks among pie leadership about banning him and his corp from the channel for that elitist attitude, which wasn't all that dissimilar from the one maintained by z platoon.
I'm not sure it was a little over two months ago when I finally decided to skill into the Amarr Sentinel and get some LP proto variants. I'm in the chats but don't play it a whole lot so it didn't really bother me I just figured they didn't know me but it was a little irritating that I couldn't get in a squad the few times I tried until I whored out my SP total. |
iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
400
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Posted - 2014.10.10 09:36:00 -
[43] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are?
z platoon was/is a channel that was formed by a member of kirjuun z 13, we welcome all cal loyalists, our main mission is the retaking of caldari prime, sadly though we haven't been that active lately, if you can follow these simple rules your welcome to join.
*don't hack crus and installations *don't tk *leave enemy one objective for killbox. and to prevent redline drama *don't steal vehicles * no shaking babies or the 300 spartans they have disrupted our comms before.
anything else you wish to know?
lp cal scout i demand it
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iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
400
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Posted - 2014.10.10 09:42:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely ****ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn. Remember their names at all? I honestly can only think of one ******* and I struggle to deal with him myself. Everyone else is cool. is it me? xD i can be an ******* lol
lp cal scout i demand it
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Darrius Smithmage
15
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them. Indeed and this is a problem that could be fixed if you widened your scope, opened up to newer blood, made contact with more Cal FW capsuleers, and called for outside intervention by Amarr FWers. I'm just going to say were changeing the way we run things.Also who ever said we don't taken"scrubs" is lieing if you ask to join you get in. We use to have a pub calfw channel but it bombed. We made a new platoon and the whonchannel went gal/min fw. So illnsay again everyone can join and were here to rp and have fun that it. all the negativty is from the old z platooon. Groups and people change and as a repsentive of that platoon and by my knowledge there only pliot I will try to get the password remove if I can't illmwill convience to make a new "z platoon" and open it to the public so we can have fun and organized play. And we don't do the camping the a lot anymore. It either camp.the redline or your home objective wheich I guessnit the same thing. And I played in amar and gal fw channels and they camp.the redline to when there winning so I don't want to hear complants about that. There was a time I switch to gal because I thought cal was died. But switch back because I was'nt "invited". I hope you guys understand the changes I talk about I have a hard time explaining my self through text o7
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
15
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:07:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? z platoon was/is a channel that was formed by a member of kirjuun z 13, we welcome all cal loyalists, our main mission is the retaking of caldari prime, sadly though we haven't been that active lately, if you can follow these simple rules your welcome to join. *don't hack crus and installations *don't tk *leave enemy one objective for killbox. and to prevent redline drama *don't steal vehicles * no shaking babies or the 300 spartans they have disrupted our comms before. anything else you wish to know? The no hack installations rule has been change the killbox thing as kinda been change"redline" The tk and vehicalnthing is common sense. The SB and 300s fight for gal so that why we don't like them. (I don't like them for roleplay reasons.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
711
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:18:00 -
[47] - Quote
This is why (despite being Caldari Loyalist) I refuse to do CFW anymore. There are people like this that take it as seriously (probably more seriously at this point) than PC, but others treat it as another pub match. Its just not that fun for either group.
And that I agree adds to the dominance of the Gallente.
The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P1.
"GET BACK HERE YOU SCRUB" - Lorelei Zee 2014
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Darrius Smithmage
15
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:19:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW. Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players. Please don't blame your rooms failing on us. The main reason everyone loves running with Z platoon is because we are so organized... it's not our fault players gravitated towards our room. I was in Kirjuun for pretty much ever. I honestly just deleted it from my list. Why? Because it's a ******* ghost town for the most part with no direction and no one on coms and it was pretty much always that way. How the hell can you qsync when no one was ever on a mic in your room? Hell Caldari Elite State Army or whatever was more successful than Kirjuun ever has been and all they do is spam invites to Caldari players... It wasn't ever 'my room', it was listed as the caldari militia channel quite some time ago in a ccp stickied thread, along with pie for the amarr and others for gallente and minmatar. My corp name is simply a Homage to the phrase the channel was named after. I was disappointed by it being a ghost town as well, so I tried to gather as many players as I could to fill it, I got into contact with *four* caldari fw alliances in eve... and what happened after I left it for a week because I had real life stuff to deal with? It was back to being completely dead - because Z platoon sniped the pilots and the star players. I know people had talks with members of z platoon about getting them to try and work with amarr FW players and people in the kirjuun heiian channel... and the response was the same tired tripe you're spouting now "PUBLIC CHANNEL, SPIES, SCRUBS" repeated ad nauseum. I'm just going to say this people and grouos of people change over time. We have change and want to invite others to play withus new or old players and I wish people stop useing the word "scrub". We don't kick anyone from the channel anyone from the channel unless your jns vital who a gal who we rp/troll with. At least give us a try we have change. For get about the negative way old z platoon use to work and at least "try" to give the new zplatoon and chance. And as I said in a another post we will work with any cal/amar fw channel.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
15
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:25:00 -
[49] - Quote
Denchlad 7 wrote:This is why (despite being Caldari Loyalist) I refuse to do CFW anymore. There are people like this that take it as seriously (probably more seriously at this point) than PC, but others treat it as another pub match. Its just not that fun for either group.
And that I agree adds to the dominance of the Gallente. The people who take it seriously are rokeplayers that it there not many roleplayers in the channel I'm pretty sure I'm the only one everone else is either playing for fun or playing for gear.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
171
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
Y platoon, i honestly never saw these Matee boyos mayne i will in future i dont know
"Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Matari Pirate Yaaaaaargh."
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iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
400
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:58:00 -
[51] - Quote
Denchlad 7 wrote:This is why (despite being Caldari Loyalist) I refuse to do CFW anymore. There are people like this that take it as seriously (probably more seriously at this point) than PC, but others treat it as another pub match. Its just not that fun for either group.
And that I agree adds to the dominance of the Gallente. :( dench i thought me you and lorelie had a special bond, we don't "tryhard" it because we don't have to, though i'm sure us q syncing does ruin it for the gal, so i would like to give the gal a formal apology for them not getting what they assumed was a guaranteed win. that and us stomping them so hard that they q cal just to try to tk us
lp cal scout i demand it
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4898
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Posted - 2014.10.10 12:08:00 -
[52] - Quote
Atiim wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Middle aged fat guys that play dust 514. I'm asking about Z Platoon, not the DUST 514 community as a whole.
Hey, I'm only 35
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Help Me Reach Level 5
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ReGnYuM
YOU GOT OWNED BY A CHRONIC FAPPER
3302
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Posted - 2014.10.10 12:25:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Middle aged fat guys that play dust 514. I'm asking about Z Platoon, not the DUST 514 community as a whole.
Does that make me an out liner then... Flexes
Selling ISK for $$$. Message me for details
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1726
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Posted - 2014.10.10 12:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? a bunch of squid who never get out the redline.
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.10.10 12:49:00 -
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So do I just apply to this channel
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Vapor Forseti
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote: The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems. I don't think you understand "the problem" here.
If there's an untaken objective right in front of you, you hack it. The blueberry was just doing his job. You know, hacking the point. He gets shot up by the PoS brigade nonetheless.
ReGnYuM wrote:So do I just apply to this channel your ******* corp name.
oh my god i cannot stop laughing lmfao.
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Darrius Smithmage
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ReGnYuM wrote:So do I just apply to this channel You just ask but I got to leave the house to do something but a guy called ikillu made a zplatoon pub channel anyone can join and if you want to join zplatoon just ask zplatoon know will just be a hang out for the original members and whoever wants to hang out with us. I cant speak for the others but I'll play in the public channel anytime to make new friends.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
15
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:00:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote: The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems. I don't think you understand "the problem" here. If there's an untaken objective right in front of you, you hack it. The blueberry was just doing his job. You know, hacking the point. He gets shot up by the PoS brigade nonetheless. Yeah even I thought shooting a ally for hacking a point is dumb but base on what happen when I played yesterday we no longer kill people who hack things we just ignore them.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:02:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote: We've had entire corporations invade our chat by someone giving access to the wrong person. They come in and spam the chat making it hard to squad up and then are just obnoxious on coms. We've had to delete and restart our room several times which is why it's been depleted of players lately.
We've also had entire teams qsync against us. That's no big deal until they have someone who's on the other team that's also in our room. When they know what you're planning on doing it gives a huge advantage and has happened a few times in the past.
Our room is secluded mainly because of trolls. Not because of elitism.
EDIT: Also we've had EVE pilots spy our channel and block our pilots. That was one of the main problems with Kirjuun.
What were the name of the Corporations and Pilots?
I've been in Kirjuu's chanel before and I don't recall ever having issues with spies/trolls.
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Malleus Malificorum
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote: We've had entire corporations invade our chat by someone giving access to the wrong person. They come in and spam the chat making it hard to squad up and then are just obnoxious on coms. We've had to delete and restart our room several times which is why it's been depleted of players lately.
We've also had entire teams qsync against us. That's no big deal until they have someone who's on the other team that's also in our room. When they know what you're planning on doing it gives a huge advantage and has happened a few times in the past.
Our room is secluded mainly because of trolls. Not because of elitism.
EDIT: Also we've had EVE pilots spy our channel and block our pilots. That was one of the main problems with Kirjuun.
What were the name of the Corporations and Pilots? I've been in Kirjuu's chanel before and I don't recall ever having issues with spies/trolls.
Simple solution, don't post requests in the public portion, ask if a pilot is available for OB support, if he is get him to private message you and give coordinates directly to the pilot, it's so ****ing simple it's not even funny. I know you're awfully quick to scream spies, but the caldari/gallente warzone is always very hot and when a match spawns caldari side it obviously also spawns gallente side.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:23:00 -
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That's exactly what I used to do back when Gradient was providing OB support for MinFW.
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iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
401
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:40:00 -
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z platoon public is up a detailed thread is up in general discussions
lp cal scout i demand it
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TRULY ELITE
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:48:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They were originally a group who started working on Caldari FW alongside Kirjun Heiian, a channel comprised of long a few Caldari RPers, EVE pilots, and was somewhat the De Facto channel for Cal FW as I understand it. Initially Z Platoon competed and worked with Kirjuun, eventually using scathing accusations that Kirjuun was a channel filled with scrubs and poor players, poaching some of what were perceived as the top tier players, and casting out anyone who did not meet their "standards"...... as I am told from several members of the Caldari Militia As I saw it at the time..... it was the channel that fractured Cal FW, and for all its successes to its members has never truly served as a channel that would or could unite the Caldari militia. Though I am now informed its original founder is no longer at its head. I can only assume its changed hands the channel is something different entirely. Actually you are wrong here. It was started by Z-13 from Hellstorm (hence the name) and it was first only really people from The League Of Infamy in it. Then it turned into a cal FW channel but we didn't just open our doors and say everybody come and join, we stuck with the same guys. So yes, it is a private channel but it was never intended to be a public one anyway.
It was never intended to unite or help Caldari in FW, at the start anyway. |
ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:54:00 -
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Last night I finally hit Level 10 in Amarr FW.
I believe it is now my duty to help the Caldari regain their Home world.
I am your sword Z-Platoon, use me as you wish
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iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
403
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:10:00 -
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i just want to clarify there is no "head of z platoon" but the current members have agreed to listen to voice command much like pc and we only use voice command when facing another q sync.
and i am in no way head of z platoon, i just want to expand our cal fw playerbase and lively up z platoon
lp cal scout i demand it
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1671
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:14:00 -
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Well, I guess we'll be queue syncing gallente this weekend to teach these guys a lesson..... :) |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1947
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:14:00 -
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Fac War is serious business it would seem.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1947
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:15:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Last night I finally hit Level 10 in Amarr FW.
I believe it is now my duty to help the Caldari regain their Home world.
I am your sword Z-Platoon, use me as you wish
Are you like the first person to ever reach level 10?
The level of dedication is staggering.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
403
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:17:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Well, I guess we'll be queue syncing gallente this weekend to teach these guys a lesson..... :) we haven't been that active as of late but i'm sur i can scrap a team together ;)
lp cal scout i demand it
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iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:20:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Last night I finally hit Level 10 in Amarr FW.
I believe it is now my duty to help the Caldari regain their Home world.
I am your sword Z-Platoon, use me as you wish your welcome to join us level 10 cal here (next 10 posts will be liar liar pants on fire) only if rattati would give us ranks like he proposed
lp cal scout i demand it
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:23:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Last night I finally hit Level 10 in Amarr FW.
I believe it is now my duty to help the Caldari regain their Home world.
I am your sword Z-Platoon, use me as you wish Are you like the first person to ever reach level 10? The level of dedication is staggering.
I know Cubs (Teamplayers) is also a 10. Also the Grind is unreal
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Vesta Opalus
Kang Lo Holding
48
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:29:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them.
In small games like this, leaders matter, and unfortunately for Caldari Z Platoon is one of very few leaders.
As long as you guys keep leading into a small insular group that is isolated from the "pub" players who form the backbone of other FW efforts, Caldari FW will be crippled.
I think its great you guys are making a public channel to draw from, but I wont be joining it even though I had a lot of fun playing with you guys in your old channel, because Im sure the second you feel comfortable in how great you are and what scrubs everyone else is you'll turtle up in your private channel until you realize not having a full queue sync sucks again.
This despite the fact that I had a ton of fun back when your channel was more open running cal FW with you guys, not that I expect you to remember me, because you dont seem to remember anyone outside your core members even if they contributed alot more than I did. Maybe thats a big part of your problem. |
Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:58:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:[quote=MINA Longstrike]
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them. In small games like this, leaders matter, and unfortunately for Caldari Z Platoon is one of very few leaders. As long as you guys keep leading into a small insular group that is isolated from the "pub" players who form the backbone of other FW efforts, Caldari FW will be crippled. I think its great you guys are making a public channel to draw from, but I wont be joining it even though I had a lot of fun playing with you guys in your old channel, because Im sure the second you feel comfortable in how great you are and what scrubs everyone else is you'll turtle up in your private channel until you realize not having a full queue sync sucks again. This despite the fact that I had a ton of fun back when your channel was more open running cal FW with you guys, not that I expect you to remember me, because you dont seem to remember anyone outside your core members even if they contributed alot more than I did. Maybe thats a big part of your problem. I see your point but the "old z platoon" is just a group of friend ATM bwe truly want to get rid of our "elitist private chat" all I have to say give us a chance at least I want z platoon to be a group of friend but the z platoon pub to be the main miltia. I don't even know if your going to understand what I mean but whatever. Oh and we want the pub to be the main force the private channel not even that active anymore so we most likely wont be using much it might just be uses for forming a second team if Tue pub(main) channel is fullq sync and we don't want to confuse coms.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:11:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Well, I guess we'll be queue syncing gallente this weekend to teach these guys a lesson..... :) they won't even show up and its just going to get a bunch of caldari randoms proto stomped again.
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Darrius Smithmage
16
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:18:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Well, I guess we'll be queue syncing gallente this weekend to teach these guys a lesson..... :) they won't even show up and its just going to get a bunch of caldari randoms proto stomped again. I don't what you mean by not showing up but we will be playing calfw and we won't back down at least I won't.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
2843
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:21:00 -
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nvm, screw it.
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iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
405
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:08:00 -
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neither will I , its been a long time since we faced a *good* q sync, just 2 days ago we stomped carbon 7 a new one, though i don't know if thats something to brag about, oh how i miss ultramarines they was a determined bunch, and i also miss the training sessions with hellstorm and pand3m0n1um.(damn you fanfest damn you to hell!!!)
lp cal scout i demand it
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TRULY ELITE
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:17:00 -
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Darrius Smithmage wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:[quote=MINA Longstrike]
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them. In small games like this, leaders matter, and unfortunately for Caldari Z Platoon is one of very few leaders. As long as you guys keep leading into a small insular group that is isolated from the "pub" players who form the backbone of other FW efforts, Caldari FW will be crippled. I think its great you guys are making a public channel to draw from, but I wont be joining it even though I had a lot of fun playing with you guys in your old channel, because Im sure the second you feel comfortable in how great you are and what scrubs everyone else is you'll turtle up in your private channel until you realize not having a full queue sync sucks again. This despite the fact that I had a ton of fun back when your channel was more open running cal FW with you guys, not that I expect you to remember me, because you dont seem to remember anyone outside your core members even if they contributed alot more than I did. Maybe thats a big part of your problem. I see your point but the "old z platoon" is just a group of friend ATM bwe truly want to get rid of our "elitist private chat" all I have to say give us a chance at least I want z platoon to be a group of friend but the z platoon pub to be the main miltia. I don't even know if your going to understand what I mean but whatever. Oh and we want the pub to be the main force the private channel not even that active anymore so we most likely wont be using much it might just be uses for forming a second team if Tue pub(main) channel is fullq sync and we don't want to confuse coms. I understand your direction but I just hate how people think Z Platoon is the reason Cal FW failed when they don't understand why the channel was formed in the first place |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:27:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Well, I guess we'll be queue syncing gallente this weekend to teach these guys a lesson..... :) they won't even show up and its just going to get a bunch of caldari randoms proto stomped again.
Hey now, it's the kinder and gentler Leadfoot now...
I'll take 'em with an advanced cal scout and dual sidearms -- no proto suit necessary. |
iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
405
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:33:00 -
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@ truly
A challenge has been made will you be there to answer the call my brother in arms?
lp cal scout i demand it
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REDBACK96USMC
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
101
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:33:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.
Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.
As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.
Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.
Umm Ive seen you plenty and you are far from that good.
Otherwise you would be holding some of Molden Heath. I havent seen a good challenge from the Caldari side in forever unless FA or 1 UP is over there in full squad. |
Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
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Posted - 2014.10.10 23:14:00 -
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:
Umm Ive seen you plenty and you are far from that good.
Otherwise you would be holding some of Molden Heath. I havent seen a good challenge from the Caldari side in forever unless FA or 1 UP is over there in full squad.
Both of those are corps where they're players are clearly labeled. Z Platoon isn't a corp, unless you recognize our names before battle you won't even know you're playing us. That is until we've capped everything. We pretty much never lose, really I can't remember the last time I lost a Cal FW when running with Z Platoon its been a long time and we regularly face full qsync'd teams as well. I'm pretty sure we've waxed a bunch of 1UPers quite a few times. The same goes for all the Gallente players posting on this thread, we've waxed all of them as well. A few people tried making a Z Platoon corp but it never panned out as everyone preferred to stick with their respective corp and just play Z platoon for Cal FW. |
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Posted - 2014.10.10 23:55:00 -
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Rant Inbound!!
This is why I gave up on that CalFW **** (excuse my language)!!
Everybody wanted to be this top dog ultra elite, I'm johnny bad ass durr durr, instead of working together to achieve a common goal!
Me and a few guys shared a vision of bringing Caldari players together to initiate a gaming environment, a community, a band of brothers, whom loved everything Caldari and would fight to raise its flag in honor.
Of course the rose tinted glasses dropped off to all the silly nonsense.
We would reach out to people. No response. Oh, I wasn't one of those famous "elite" guys on the forums whom blew each other on the boards daily, so they dismissed. "Who are you?" were the questions. Too many wanna be chiefs and not enough indians.
Then with Caldari Hierarchy, it was open comms. I wanted something more. Something more sophisticated. Military like. In a meeting with folks and we made Kirjuun Heiian after deciding on a name. Told them, let's make it password protected. Let's carefully select the players whom are serious. But no. One ignored me like I was just babbling. Made another comm channel, still open, and the SAME DAMN THING HAPPENED TO KH!
Oh I was upset. Meanwhile, Gallente talking **** and I couldn't say a damn thing besides the common "shut up four eyes" retort. Sometimes it would get nasty. I wanted to shut them up with a unified front, but players were too stupid to understand that with unity comes triumph. No matter the skill, comradity builds people stronger. Oh how I wanted the action to back it, but majority of players whom called themselves Caldari weren't Caldari.
Z Platoon is just another example of the stupidity of the majority of Cal players. NOBODY NETWORKS!! It's like I was dealing with Call of Duty players who didn't want to network with people unless they were elite. It just made me so damn mad!
So I gave up on it. OUKH folded. I watched KH turn into a kiddie show with dinosaurs and unicorns. People in there asking to queue up for GalFW and squads for pub matches!! WTF?!
Left a bitter taste in my mouth man. True Adamance and his guys were my inspiration. I wanted to build something like PIE with players. I respected our allies for that. Those guys were dedicated. We just lacked the intelligent mature players to do so.
So much ineptitude. So much elitism. So much stupidity. IMO, only a handful of people represented the Cal way.
My apologies OP, I know you probably read this before. But everytime this subject comes up (or anything remotely related to it), the sour memory comes to mind and it just pisses me off.
The damn Gallente had a more sophisticated front than us and they are some damn druggies; obnoxious slobs!!!
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:04:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Rant Inbound!!
This is why I gave up on that CalFW **** (excuse my language)!!
Everybody wanted to be this top dog ultra elite, I'm johnny bad ass durr durr, instead of working together to achieve a common goal!
Me and a few guys shared a vision of bringing Caldari players together to initiate a gaming environment, a community, a band of brothers, whom loved everything Caldari and would fight to raise its flag in honor.
Of course the rose tinted glasses dropped off to all the silly nonsense.
We would reach out to people. No response. Oh, I wasn't one of those famous "elite" guys on the forums whom blew each other on the boards daily, so they dismissed. "Who are you?" were the questions. Too many wanna be chiefs and not enough indians.
Then with Caldari Hierarchy, it was open comms. I wanted something more. Something more sophisticated. Military like. In a meeting with folks and we made Kirjuun Heiian after deciding on a name. Told them, let's make it password protected. Let's carefully select the players whom are serious. But no. One ignored me like I was just babbling. Made another comm channel, still open, and the SAME DAMN THING HAPPENED TO KH!
Oh I was upset. Meanwhile, Gallente talking **** and I couldn't say a damn thing besides the common "shut up four eyes" retort. Sometimes it would get nasty. I wanted to shut them up with a unified front, but players were too stupid to understand that with unity comes triumph. No matter the skill, comradity builds people stronger. Oh how I wanted the action to back it, but majority of players whom called themselves Caldari weren't Caldari.
Z Platoon is just another example of the stupidity of the majority of Cal players. NOBODY NETWORKS!! It's like I was dealing with Call of Duty players who didn't want to network with people unless they were elite. It just made me so damn mad!
So I gave up on it. OUKH folded. I watched KH turn into a kiddie show with dinosaurs and unicorns. People in there asking to queue up for GalFW and squads for pub matches!! WTF?!
Left a bitter taste in my mouth man. True Adamance and his guys were my inspiration. I wanted to build something like PIE with players. I respected our allies for that. Those guys were dedicated. We just lacked the intelligent mature players to do so.
So much ineptitude. So much elitism. So much stupidity. IMO, only a handful of people represented the Cal way.
My apologies OP, I know you probably read this before. But everytime this subject comes up (or anything remotely related to it), the sour memory comes to mind and it just pisses me off.
The damn Gallente had a more sophisticated front than us and they are some damn druggies; obnoxious slobs!!! J nirmally runwith z llatoon but today I ran with a group of guys in KH and had a blast try rejoing it indidnt play lone but we won 7 out of 8 when I left.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:07:00 -
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Okay. I'm talking about my experience of the past. Why does the internet always pull out "oh well I had this experience now and its hurr durr good".
That has nothing to do with the experience I had and why the Caldari constantly got MOPPED UP before all you new bloods came over to Dust 514
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Darrius Smithmage
17
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:18:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Okay. I'm talking about my experience of the past. Why does the internet always pull out "oh well I had this experience now and its hurr durr good".
That has nothing to do with the experience I had and why the Caldari constantly got MOPPED UP before all you new bloods came over to Dust 514
And may I add...STILL GETTING MOPPED UP! Just like the Z Platoon who thinks because they win battles, everything is alright. LOL! It takes a multitude, NOT A SQUAD, to make a difference.
Stop thinking like a infantrymen and think like a General. You can win the battle and still lose the war son. Uh I was just saying how KH was trying to be more active.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
265
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:19:00 -
[87] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:Rant Inbound!!
This is why I gave up on that CalFW **** (excuse my language)!!
Everybody wanted to be this top dog ultra elite, I'm johnny bad ass durr durr, instead of working together to achieve a common goal!
Me and a few guys shared a vision of bringing Caldari players together to initiate a gaming environment, a community, a band of brothers, whom loved everything Caldari and would fight to raise its flag in honor.
Of course the rose tinted glasses dropped off to all the silly nonsense.
We would reach out to people. No response. Oh, I wasn't one of those famous "elite" guys on the forums whom blew each other on the boards daily, so they dismissed. "Who are you?" were the questions. Too many wanna be chiefs and not enough indians.
Then with Caldari Hierarchy, it was open comms. I wanted something more. Something more sophisticated. Military like. In a meeting with folks and we made Kirjuun Heiian after deciding on a name. Told them, let's make it password protected. Let's carefully select the players whom are serious. But no. One ignored me like I was just babbling. Made another comm channel, still open, and the SAME DAMN THING HAPPENED TO KH!
Oh I was upset. Meanwhile, Gallente talking **** and I couldn't say a damn thing besides the common "shut up four eyes" retort. Sometimes it would get nasty. I wanted to shut them up with a unified front, but players were too stupid to understand that with unity comes triumph. No matter the skill, comradity builds people stronger. Oh how I wanted the action to back it, but majority of players whom called themselves Caldari weren't Caldari.
Z Platoon is just another example of the stupidity of the majority of Cal players. NOBODY NETWORKS!! It's like I was dealing with Call of Duty players who didn't want to network with people unless they were elite. It just made me so damn mad!
So I gave up on it. OUKH folded. I watched KH turn into a kiddie show with dinosaurs and unicorns. People in there asking to queue up for GalFW and squads for pub matches!! WTF?!
Left a bitter taste in my mouth man. True Adamance and his guys were my inspiration. I wanted to build something like PIE with players. I respected our allies for that. Those guys were dedicated. We just lacked the intelligent mature players to do so.
So much ineptitude. So much elitism. So much stupidity. IMO, only a handful of people represented the Cal way.
My apologies OP, I know you probably read this before. But everytime this subject comes up (or anything remotely related to it), the sour memory comes to mind and it just pisses me off.
The damn Gallente had a more sophisticated front than us and they are some damn druggies; obnoxious slobs!!!
Again with this elitist crap where does it spew from? Why? Because our room is private? Almost everyone who asks gets in, it's only password protected to keep out the trolls. Again, people see us differently than for what we are. We do help the Caldari and most of us were apart of Kirjuun and OUKH. The difference in our groups is we have 4 or 5 guys who are dedicated at putting squads together. KH and OUKH never had that, ever. People are sheep bro, honestly you have to have a few people hurding everyone or it doesn't work. That's what happens in Z Platoon. It's the same few guys creating squads and syncing. Drop the elitist crap we have plenty of newer players. |
Michael Arck
5875
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Posted - 2014.10.11 01:18:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Rant Inbound!!
This is why I gave up on that CalFW **** (excuse my language)!!
Everybody wanted to be this top dog ultra elite, I'm johnny bad ass durr durr, instead of working together to achieve a common goal!
Me and a few guys shared a vision of bringing Caldari players together to initiate a gaming environment, a community, a band of brothers, whom loved everything Caldari and would fight to raise its flag in honor.
Of course the rose tinted glasses dropped off to all the silly nonsense.
We would reach out to people. No response. Oh, I wasn't one of those famous "elite" guys on the forums whom blew each other on the boards daily, so they dismissed. "Who are you?" were the questions. Too many wanna be chiefs and not enough indians.
Then with Caldari Hierarchy, it was open comms. I wanted something more. Something more sophisticated. Military like. In a meeting with folks and we made Kirjuun Heiian after deciding on a name. Told them, let's make it password protected. Let's carefully select the players whom are serious. But no. One ignored me like I was just babbling. Made another comm channel, still open, and the SAME DAMN THING HAPPENED TO KH!
Oh I was upset. Meanwhile, Gallente talking **** and I couldn't say a damn thing besides the common "shut up four eyes" retort. Sometimes it would get nasty. I wanted to shut them up with a unified front, but players were too stupid to understand that with unity comes triumph. No matter the skill, comradity builds people stronger. Oh how I wanted the action to back it, but majority of players whom called themselves Caldari weren't Caldari.
Z Platoon is just another example of the stupidity of the majority of Cal players. NOBODY NETWORKS!! It's like I was dealing with Call of Duty players who didn't want to network with people unless they were elite. It just made me so damn mad!
So I gave up on it. OUKH folded. I watched KH turn into a kiddie show with dinosaurs and unicorns. People in there asking to queue up for GalFW and squads for pub matches!! WTF?!
Left a bitter taste in my mouth man. True Adamance and his guys were my inspiration. I wanted to build something like PIE with players. I respected our allies for that. Those guys were dedicated. We just lacked the intelligent mature players to do so.
So much ineptitude. So much elitism. So much stupidity. IMO, only a handful of people represented the Cal way.
My apologies OP, I know you probably read this before. But everytime this subject comes up (or anything remotely related to it), the sour memory comes to mind and it just pisses me off.
The damn Gallente had a more sophisticated front than us and they are some damn druggies; obnoxious slobs!!! Again with this elitist crap where does it spew from? Why? Because our room is private? Almost everyone who asks gets in, it's only password protected to keep out the trolls. Again, people see us differently than for what we are. We do help the Caldari and most of us were apart of Kirjuun and OUKH. The difference in our groups is we have 4 or 5 guys who are dedicated at putting squads together. KH and OUKH never had that, ever. People are sheep bro, honestly you have to have a few people hurding everyone or it doesn't work. That's what happens in Z Platoon. It's the same few guys creating squads and syncing. Drop the elitist crap we have plenty of newer players.
I wasn't even talking about you...but...
If you took offense to my post then you are the EXACT kind of people I am talking about.
I'm not stepping down from my words. The elitism attitude really sucks. Tryhards whom are over compensating for a video game.
I'm all about working with people, no matter their skill level or drawbacks. You show you got the merit and heart to do it, then I believe anything is possible.
Not with you elites. Got your mind too much on being snobby dickheads whom think they better than anybody else cause they good with a controller.
It's small minds like you that don't think larger. I was thinking about the larger picture, not about the immediate wins, the "oh at least we are winning our matches" BS.
and don't tell me what KH or OUKH had. Were you there?? No you weren't you were too busy giving out hand jobs to you and your elitist boys.
So take that crap up the block man.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
265
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Posted - 2014.10.11 01:27:00 -
[89] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:
I wasn't even talking about you...but...
If you took offense to my post then you are the EXACT kind of people I am talking about.
I'm not stepping down from my words. The elitism attitude really sucks. Tryhards whom are over compensating for a video game.
I'm all about working with people, no matter their skill level or drawbacks. You show you got the merit and heart to do it, then I believe anything is possible.
Not with you elites. Got your mind too much on being snobby dickheads whom think they better than anybody else cause they good with a controller.
It's small minds like you that don't think larger. I was thinking about the larger picture, not about the immediate wins, the "oh at least we are winning our matches" BS.
and don't tell me what KH or OUKH had. Were you there?? No you weren't you were too busy giving out hand jobs to you and your elitist boys.
So take that crap up the block man.
I've been in KH and OUKH from both their starts. KH was actually pretty good for a while and OUKH never did squat. You go on a rant about elitism in a thread where were getting attacked about elitism so that's why it appears you're talking about us. If you want to work with new players to the game that's fine but I've stated it once and I'll state it again for people who skim.... FW is supposed to mimic PC. It's where proto warriors are meant to be seen and felt. It's not a game mode for the new guys.... |
REDBACK96USMC
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
102
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Posted - 2014.10.11 02:00:00 -
[90] - Quote
Mike Ox Bigger wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:
Umm Ive seen you plenty and you are far from that good.
Otherwise you would be holding some of Molden Heath. I havent seen a good challenge from the Caldari side in forever unless FA or 1 UP is over there in full squad.
Both of those are corps where they're players are clearly labeled. Z Platoon isn't a corp, unless you recognize our names before battle you won't even know you're playing us. That is until we've capped everything. We pretty much never lose, really I can't remember the last time I lost a Cal FW when running with Z Platoon its been a long time and we regularly face full qsync'd teams as well. I'm pretty sure we've waxed a bunch of 1UPers quite a few times. The same goes for all the Gallente players posting on this thread, we've waxed all of them as well. A few people tried making a Z Platoon corp but it never panned out as everyone preferred to stick with their respective corp and just play Z platoon for Cal FW.
Well next time we are queue syncing, I will look you up and send you mail. Been few and far between we have seen anyone on the Caldari Side actually put up a fight. I like a good challenge :) |
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iKILLu osborne
ripley's believe it or die
405
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Posted - 2014.10.11 03:15:00 -
[91] - Quote
Rant inbound ;)
yes i'm an elite'st and i'm proud of it, but if you look at threads i've started about z platoon, you would see that there isn't requirements as to sp level or kdr, the only thing was asked was that they follow some simple rules to make things run smoother (such as not hacking cru's that way we have established camp sites) hell i even offered training in them threads, my corp offers training as well.
So don't you dare f'n say we splintered the caldari playerbase when we are the only damn ones that are trying to organize things (aside from kirjuun). The only people we have ever kicked are those that caused trouble for our eve pilots, continually disrupted comms, or was seen playing gal fw when they agreed they would help with the retaking of caldari prime.
Z platoon is password protected and i have no control over that and when seeing this thread i made z platoon public a place for new bros to join in and stomp some gallente scum and i'm currently trying to help kirjuun restablish their rep
lp cal scout i demand it
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
1909
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Posted - 2014.10.11 04:42:00 -
[92] - Quote
IStill don't see what the deal is. We have rules, but we just played with someone so new to the game they thought you could buy officer weapons on the market. We don't have any requirement beyond the ability to follow instructions.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Reign Omega
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
944
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Posted - 2014.10.11 04:47:00 -
[93] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. Meanwhile on the Gallente side: All are welcome! As long as you're not an ass or a Caldari Loyalist! *Instant channel population boom* It also helps to have the main Flag Bearers of the Gallente promoting your channel.
I recently got my last Gallente suit to proto, but I guess I could run fw for plc and....Wait no ion pistols here.. Side note: 2 words, Lucent echelon, doing work, you're welcome.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
283
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Posted - 2014.10.11 05:54:00 -
[94] - Quote
i do fw random, no investment in any specific one besides just getting max lp when i play
can someone list the most popular channels for each one?
amarr:
gal:
cal:
min:
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1739
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Posted - 2014.10.11 06:18:00 -
[95] - Quote
Mike Ox Bigger wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:
Umm Ive seen you plenty and you are far from that good.
Otherwise you would be holding some of Molden Heath. I havent seen a good challenge from the Caldari side in forever unless FA or 1 UP is over there in full squad.
Both of those are corps where they're players are clearly labeled. Z Platoon isn't a corp, unless you recognize our names before battle you won't even know you're playing us. That is until we've capped everything. We pretty much never lose, really I can't remember the last time I lost a Cal FW when running with Z Platoon its been a long time and we regularly face full qsync'd teams as well. I'm pretty sure we've waxed a bunch of 1UPers quite a few times. The same goes for all the Gallente players posting on this thread, we've waxed all of them as well. A few people tried making a Z Platoon corp but it never panned out as everyone preferred to stick with their respective corp and just play Z platoon for Cal FW. what are they putting in that water back in the redline cause you dude have not made it out of there in a year and a half.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1220
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Posted - 2014.10.11 08:26:00 -
[96] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. Meanwhile on the Gallente side: All are welcome! As long as you're not an ass or a Caldari Loyalist! *Instant channel population boom* It also helps to have the main Flag Bearers of the Gallente promoting your channel.
I was going to join but your standards were too high.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1220
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Posted - 2014.10.11 08:28:00 -
[97] - Quote
Mike Ox Bigger wrote:We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.
Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.
As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.
Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.
Yeah, pretty much reads as "Yes, we are dicks".
Because, that's why.
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2014.10.11 09:49:00 -
[98] - Quote
MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. Weird. Used to be Z13 of Hellstorms channel for Caldari FW. Back when I played with them he used three 5 man squads to sync. Plus sometimes a Sigma squad or spy squad. I had a fall out with them because they demanded I use proto when I didnt need it. Z ran squads well, he FCd well enough. Played classicial music in the back ground. Refused to deploy before he had 15 people. And he kept strict control of these Factions. Out of over 100 matches with them I never lost a single one. Thats all I know. |
Darrius Smithmage
17
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Posted - 2014.10.11 11:07:00 -
[99] - Quote
NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. Weird. Used to be Z13 of Hellstorms channel for Caldari FW. Back when I played with them he used three 5 man squads to sync. Plus sometimes a Sigma squad or spy squad. I had a fall out with them because they demanded I use proto when I didnt need it. Z ran squads well, he FCd well enough. Played classicial music in the back ground. Refused to deploy before he had 15 people. And he kept strict control of these Factions. Out of over 100 matches with them I never lost a single one. Thats all I know. PS, I never ran proto and topped the leaderboard for kills nearly every game. And most of those dudes sucked. Their strength was that we worked together. They finally told me out of jealousy I think I had to run proto like everyone else. So fuckkit, I team killed a few of them and then ran Gal FW against them to no avail. Funny I don't remember that happing what suit did you run anyway? And did they say you had to run proto because if I was not tanking in ran basic to adv. I thought the old rule was no miltia/basic gear but maybe I remembered wrong.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Atiim
12877
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Posted - 2014.10.11 14:15:00 -
[100] - Quote
Mike Ox Bigger wrote: We've had entire corporations invade our chat by someone giving access to the wrong person.
[...]
EDIT: Also we've had EVE pilots spy our channel and block our pilots. That was one of the main problems with Kirjuun.
Entire corporations and Pilots?
Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them.
The 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
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Darrius Smithmage
18
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Posted - 2014.10.11 14:17:00 -
[101] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote: We've had entire corporations invade our chat by someone giving access to the wrong person.
[...]
EDIT: Also we've had EVE pilots spy our channel and block our pilots. That was one of the main problems with Kirjuun.
Entire corporations and Pilots? Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them. There was never a whole corp or eve gal fleet in he channel the most had to be like 5 plus will kill the enemy eve pilots most of the time anyway. And sorry I can't remember there name it was a long time ago.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D. Kirjuun Heiian Player.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
265
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Posted - 2014.10.11 16:54:00 -
[102] - Quote
Atiim wrote:
Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them.
Hmm... was trying not to give them any publicity but Shaking Babies recently invaded our chat and shut it down for a night forcing us to reset it the next day. It was really lame they just spammed our chat and kept making lame goat noises. KH spies were a long time ago when they were big and were advertising all over the forums. They had enemy EVE pilots in their chat watching the location we'd post so we started posting them only in our chat and never had any problems. We've also had Gallente spies invade our chat. Contrary to what people believe about us we don't always have a full qsync a lot of the times it's 2 squads of 5 or 6 which allowed these guys who were in our room to que with us and TK and suicide. There's been plenty of other instances which is the reason we went with a password protected chat. |
TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
6134
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Posted - 2014.10.11 17:54:00 -
[103] - Quote
Every time i see Z platoon mentioned, it reminds me of kaiser soze.
Dustbook.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1406
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Posted - 2014.10.13 02:13:00 -
[104] - Quote
Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Atiim wrote:
Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them.
Hmm... was trying not to give them any publicity but Shaking Babies recently invaded our chat and shut it down for a night forcing us to reset it the next day. It was really lame they just spammed our chat and kept making lame goat noises. KH spies were a long time ago when they were big and were advertising all over the forums. They had enemy EVE pilots in their chat watching the location we'd post so we started posting them only in our chat and never had any problems. We've also had Gallente spies invade our chat. Contrary to what people believe about us we don't always have a full qsync a lot of the times it's 2 squads of 5 or 6 which allowed these guys who were in our room to que with us and TK and suicide. There's been plenty of other instances which is the reason we went with a password protected chat.
You're really trying to make the claim that Kirjuun Heiian was spying on you? What a ****ing joke. Or are you simply stating that we're complicit because it's a public channel?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13490
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Posted - 2014.10.13 02:42:00 -
[105] - Quote
MINA Longstrike wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Atiim wrote:
Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them.
Hmm... was trying not to give them any publicity but Shaking Babies recently invaded our chat and shut it down for a night forcing us to reset it the next day. It was really lame they just spammed our chat and kept making lame goat noises. KH spies were a long time ago when they were big and were advertising all over the forums. They had enemy EVE pilots in their chat watching the location we'd post so we started posting them only in our chat and never had any problems. We've also had Gallente spies invade our chat. Contrary to what people believe about us we don't always have a full qsync a lot of the times it's 2 squads of 5 or 6 which allowed these guys who were in our room to que with us and TK and suicide. There's been plenty of other instances which is the reason we went with a password protected chat. You're really trying to make the claim that Kirjuun Heiian was spying on you? What a ****ing joke. Or are you simply stating that we're complicit because it's a public channel?
I think Mr Ox really needs to understand is that its the spies you don't know about that are the ones that will **** you over.... if you know about them it's not all that much of an issue.
Hell I used to welcome to Matari pilots who would try to drop on me while I was in place over a district.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Espartoi
Orkz Clan
336
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:49:00 -
[106] - Quote
These dramatic spy novels are boring.
SHOOT SMASH STOMP CHOP
FLAK THE WORLD
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2558
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:47:00 -
[107] - Quote
Atiim wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Middle aged fat guys that play dust 514. I'm asking about Z Platoon, not the DUST 514 community as a whole.
On an off topic, I honestly wish I could meet some of the people who play this game
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
63
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:11:00 -
[108] - Quote
When I was playing eve and dust I was spying on the gals a lot, looking for ships to pop and gal syncs to bomb. Thats about it.
P.S. Sorry ROFL Alliance nothing personal, just an opportunity, I doubt u were bothered LOL
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
268
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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:42:00 -
[109] - Quote
MINA Longstrike wrote:
You're really trying to make the claim that Kirjuun Heiian was spying on you? What a ****ing joke. Or are you simply stating that we're complicit because it's a public channel?
What the **** do I not speak english? Gallente EVE pilots were chilling in your KH room. We were qsyncing in KH. When we'd post a district location there Gallente EVE pilots would attack our one pilot that would try to show up. No where did I say KH was spying on us... wtf |
Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
268
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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
I think Mr Ox really needs to understand is that its the spies you don't know about that are the ones that will **** you over.... if you know about them it's not all that much of an issue.
Hell I used to welcome to Matari pilots who would try to drop on me while I was in place over a district.
Those are the ones I'm talking about, we only knew about them because our pilot told us a few different times that he'd try to show up but got ran off by a small fleet that was waiting on him. Plus we'd be playing primarily randoms and then all of a sudden they'd have EVE support. It's not hard to figure out. |
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13510
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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:49:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:True Adamance wrote:
I think Mr Ox really needs to understand is that its the spies you don't know about that are the ones that will **** you over.... if you know about them it's not all that much of an issue.
Hell I used to welcome to Matari pilots who would try to drop on me while I was in place over a district.
Those are the ones I'm talking about, we only knew about them because our pilot told us a few different times that he'd try to show up but got ran off by a small fleet that was waiting on him. Plus we'd be playing primarily randoms and then all of a sudden they'd have EVE support. It's not hard to figure out.
True enough..... but heck don't the Caldari pilots like the fights, run up a small roaming fleet, run some OB and get in some small gang conflicts.
The ones I flew with in Huola did and were a great asset to the siege. Sure it didn't go out way but the fights were spectacular.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1407
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Posted - 2014.10.14 05:46:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:
You're really trying to make the claim that Kirjuun Heiian was spying on you? What a ****ing joke. Or are you simply stating that we're complicit because it's a public channel?
What the **** do I not speak english? Gallente EVE pilots were chilling in your KH room. We were qsyncing in KH. When we'd post a district location there Gallente EVE pilots would attack our one pilot that would try to show up. No where did I say KH was spying on us... wtf
I think that's more an issue of you being not intelligent enough to circumvent the apparently painfully obvious spies than anything else.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1757
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Posted - 2014.10.14 06:12:00 -
[113] - Quote
Mike Ox Bigger wrote:True Adamance wrote:
I think Mr Ox really needs to understand is that its the spies you don't know about that are the ones that will **** you over.... if you know about them it's not all that much of an issue.
Hell I used to welcome to Matari pilots who would try to drop on me while I was in place over a district.
Those are the ones I'm talking about, we only knew about them because our pilot told us a few different times that he'd try to show up but got ran off by a small fleet that was waiting on him. Plus we'd be playing primarily randoms and then all of a sudden they'd have EVE support. It's not hard to figure out. does all this nonsense really matter if you can't hack a letter on the ground
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7956
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Posted - 2014.10.14 06:19:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:True Adamance wrote:
I think Mr Ox really needs to understand is that its the spies you don't know about that are the ones that will **** you over.... if you know about them it's not all that much of an issue.
Hell I used to welcome to Matari pilots who would try to drop on me while I was in place over a district.
Those are the ones I'm talking about, we only knew about them because our pilot told us a few different times that he'd try to show up but got ran off by a small fleet that was waiting on him. Plus we'd be playing primarily randoms and then all of a sudden they'd have EVE support. It's not hard to figure out. does all this nonsense really matter if you can't hack a letter on the ground Lucec even has a different Channel for OBs so we don't run into that problem.
hahahahha, I love watching the Caldari's unorganization.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
66
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Posted - 2014.10.14 06:38:00 -
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@ Lucent echelon....I didnt realise u guys had 100% district control.....
Wait....checks starmap
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7956
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Posted - 2014.10.14 06:54:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:@ Lucent echelon....I didnt realise u guys had 100% district control.....
Wait....checks starmap check my sig, we did, and we kept it like that for a while until CCP bailed them out and played favorites like they always do.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
66
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Posted - 2014.10.14 07:06:00 -
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Bailed us out, or fixed a mechanic...
If you were genuinely winning, fairly, truly
Why would CCP intervene?
Seriously
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1407
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Posted - 2014.10.14 07:28:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Middas Betancore wrote:@ Lucent echelon....I didnt realise u guys had 100% district control.....
Wait....checks starmap check my sig, we did, and we kept it like that for a while until CCP bailed them out and played favorites like they always do.
It's almost like something in the system was broken! I love how people try to take credit for things not working properly as though it were an indicator of skill and they were personally responsible for it.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
1921
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Posted - 2014.10.14 07:31:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Middas Betancore wrote:@ Lucent echelon....I didnt realise u guys had 100% district control.....
Wait....checks starmap check my sig, we did, and we kept it like that for a while until CCP bailed them out and played favorites like they always do. Because broken mechanics are how we judge skill.
I suppose I'm a good tanker since I went 45/0 consistently in a 1.7 era tank.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1758
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Posted - 2014.10.14 13:04:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:@ Lucent echelon....I didnt realise u guys had 100% district control.....
Wait....
.../checks starmap
So ur winning roughly 60/40
*golf clap
A frak load of kitten gets said about FW, u bash our "noobs", we bash yours...everyone is SOOOOO skilled the difference is we bash your noobs and your Q syncs but its getting hard to tell the difference any more. whats even more sad is CCP had to come up with a way that you didn't lose all your land and made it so the game stops sending attacks on districts after 60%.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
485
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:19:00 -
[121] - Quote
Anyone wondering why Z Platoon hasn't been as active review this video clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlpddwFq4bg
Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7960
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:24:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Middas Betancore wrote:@ Lucent echelon....I didnt realise u guys had 100% district control.....
Wait....checks starmap check my sig, we did, and we kept it like that for a while until CCP bailed them out and played favorites like they always do. Because broken mechanics are how we judge skill. I suppose I'm a good tanker since I went 45/0 consistently in a 1.7 era tank. Blame it on the Mechanics all you want but it doesnt change the fact that youre still being (and have always been) getting your ass kicked in FW.
Almost like a guy that's good in a tank no matter what the regulations are.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
68
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:42:00 -
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Listen to yourselves, dunno if ur delusional or just plain dumb Both sides have good players, ur certainly not kicking our ass CCP didnt, "save the caldari" We q sync and u don't? (funny story, I hate q syncing, I think it doesnt help)
If u really believe all that junk ur spouting,I kind of feel sorry for u
C'mon Kirk I thought u were smarter than this,...
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13540
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:31:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Listen to yourselves, dunno if ur delusional or just plain dumb Both sides have good players, ur certainly not kicking our ass CCP didnt, "save the caldari" We q sync and u don't? (funny story, I hate q syncing, I think it doesnt help)
If u really believe all that junk ur spouting,I kind of feel sorry for u
C'mon Kirk I thought u were smarter than this,...
Q-Syncing does help......previously its been the direct cause if sov shifts.
Junip Crusade wouldn't have worked if it was just PIE Inc squad.
We had Tiberius running Squads, Nocturnal Running Squads, Evicer running squads, Marauder running squads, etc.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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