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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:29:00 -
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Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are?
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:37:00 -
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Middle aged fat guys that play dust 514. |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are?
They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW.
That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:40:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Middle aged fat guys that play dust 514. I'm asking about Z Platoon, not the DUST 514 community as a whole.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:46:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. Meanwhile on the Gallente side:
All are welcome! As long as you're not an ass or a Caldari Loyalist!
*Instant channel population boom*
It also helps to have the main Flag Bearers of the Gallente promoting your channel.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:49:00 -
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We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.
Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.
As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.
Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are?
They were originally a group who started working on Caldari FW alongside Kirjun Heiian, a channel comprised of long a few Caldari RPers, EVE pilots, and was somewhat the De Facto channel for Cal FW as I understand it.
Initially Z Platoon competed and worked with Kirjuun, eventually using scathing accusations that Kirjuun was a channel filled with scrubs and poor players, poaching some of what were perceived as the top tier players, and casting out anyone who did not meet their "standards"...... as I am told from several members of the Caldari Militia
As I saw it at the time..... it was the channel that fractured Cal FW, and for all its successes to its members has never truly served as a channel that would or could unite the Caldari militia.
Though I am now informed its original founder is no longer at its head. I can only assume its changed hands the channel is something different entirely.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1350
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:51:00 -
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Oh and taken right from the horses mouth : linky
"It's a public channel, it must be filled with scrubs. Everyone in z platoon is good".
I can speak from all sorts of FW experience, it's not about having good players, its about having organized players - being able to give even militia suits enough direction to have uplinks for people to spawn in on at plenty of locations will win far more faction warfare matches than not.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13441
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:52:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.
Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.
As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.
Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.
The mere fact you are willing to label players as scrubs and not allow them into your channel actively fractures the tiny militia you guys had...... it is a poor choice of tactics for a game mode that required round the clock activity and large number of players.
Amarr Militia ran several small corporations to include and train newer FW participants, headed if I remember correctly by Nocturnal Soul and another active Militia participant.
FW is wholly based on how many people you can bring to the fray and key timezones each day.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:53:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people.
Ah, so pretty much the people CCP is seeking to avoid by nixing the whole console thing for Legion. +1
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1350
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:53:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.
Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.
As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.
Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:54:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people.
Post had me rolling when you called us mediocre. you're hilarious. Sorry we choose to have a password protected chat that's our choice. There's no application process for Z platoon, you simply have to know someone who's in the room and be a good player. As for spamming mails, I know nothing about that as I don't bring in anyone into the room. Having an open room allows spies to listen in on your coms. We've had problems with that in the past and that's why it's password protected. Everyone has some twisted perspective of our group, we have a blast together and cut up all the time. We're not assholes, there's one or two but they don't speak for the whole group. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:57:00 -
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And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1350
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:58:00 -
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I've played with you people. You are mediocre, Elitist and mediocre. You treat FW like it's a secret special club for just the cool kids rather than a game mode that should be open and available to anyone.
Also, hilarious paranoia about spies.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1354
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:59:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW.
Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:01:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13448
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:02:00 -
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Actually as I mentioned before this isolationist policy and unwillingness to work with new blood is part of the reason the Gallente are succeeding the way they are.
Rather that serve as leaders of the Miltias and public figure heads for united and concentrated activity as groups like Carbon 7, New Age Outlaws, IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES, PIE Inc, Prima Gallicus their breaking down the small Caldari militia into fragments.
This is where Lucent Echelon is succeeding.
All 3 of the players I would actively associate with Gallente FW are working on this channel. They publicly announced it and opened it, and as I recall have it moderated as an EVE channel. Who wouldn't want to work with 3 forum goers who are actively working toward the unity and betterment of their faction.
Hell even now Aero, myself, and the other Classiarii are getting nostalgic for an FW tour.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:02:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Having an open room allows spies to listen in on your coms. We've had problems with that in the past and that's why it's password protected. Can you list some examples?
Honestly I think the mass paranoia from your orginization is unfounded, as very few Gallente loyalists resort to sabotage, as there's not much to gain from it other than avoiding having an OB dropped every match or so.
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:03:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. That essentially covers it. They are a group of people who do Caldari FW, that coordinate their queue syncs from the "Z PLATOON 13 " channel. It was originally started by Z 13 from Hellstorm. People blame them for the lackluster Caldari FW experience because if all of the best players migrate to one channel and leave everyone else out, then the Z Platoon queue syncs play only with each other, the rest of the populous lack the punch of the better players, and loose to even a slightly organized Gallente force. People don't bother forming up when they loose anyway, and with no pilots because they get swiped by Z platoon, nobody has any reason to coordinate a Caldari effort.
In short, this small "elite" group wins their matches (often by camping CRUs/objectives to clone them out rather than swiftly win the match, or by quitting when things get remotely tough), and the rest of Cal FW fights without their star players. Not a problem for me as I have my own little group with pilots, and dislike queue syncs, and I don't care who wins the war, but hard for those without high levels of experience/SP in dust. Channels like PIE Ground Control for the Amarr work nicely because they let everyone in, and that allows mediocre players to learn teamwork/strategy/tactics/fitting/other game info from people who are more experienced, thus making them better players. And it gives pilots 1 channel for when they want to do strikes, which makes it easier to get new pilots. A good FW community makes a big difference in overall victories for a faction.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13448
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:04:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them.
Indeed and this is a problem that could be fixed if you widened your scope, opened up to newer blood, made contact with more Cal FW capsuleers, and called for outside intervention by Amarr FWers.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Having an open room allows spies to listen in on your coms. We've had problems with that in the past and that's why it's password protected. Can you list some examples? Honestly I think the mass paranoia from your orginization is unfounded, as very few Gallente loyalists resort to sabotage, as there's not much to gain from it other than avoiding having an OB dropped every match or so. Lucent Echelon is pretty big and the most I've had to deal with are State Loyalist trolls that smack talked and were jokingly banned (for only 5 minutes) but it's funny to me.
Eventually they decided to just join Lucent Echelon because we are just too cool for school.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:09:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW. Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players.
Please don't blame your rooms failing on us. The main reason everyone loves running with Z platoon is because we are so organized... it's not our fault players gravitated towards our room. I was in Kirjuun for pretty much ever. I honestly just deleted it from my list. Why? Because it's a ******* ghost town for the most part with no direction and no one on coms and it was pretty much always that way. How the hell can you qsync when no one was ever on a mic in your room? Hell Caldari Elite State Army or whatever was more successful than Kirjuun ever has been and all they do is spam invites to Caldari players... |
Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:12:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Having an open room allows spies to listen in on your coms. We've had problems with that in the past and that's why it's password protected. Can you list some examples? Honestly I think the mass paranoia from your orginization is unfounded, as very few Gallente loyalists resort to sabotage, as there's not much to gain from it other than avoiding having an OB dropped every match or so.
We've had entire corporations invade our chat by someone giving access to the wrong person. They come in and spam the chat making it hard to squad up and then are just obnoxious on coms. We've had to delete and restart our room several times which is why it's been depleted of players lately.
We've also had entire teams qsync against us. That's no big deal until they have someone who's on the other team that's also in our room. When they know what you're planning on doing it gives a huge advantage and has happened a few times in the past.
Our room is secluded mainly because of trolls. Not because of elitism.
EDIT: Also we've had EVE pilots spy our channel and block our pilots. That was one of the main problems with Kirjuun. |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1354
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:18:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW. Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players. Please don't blame your rooms failing on us. The main reason everyone loves running with Z platoon is because we are so organized... it's not our fault players gravitated towards our room. I was in Kirjuun for pretty much ever. I honestly just deleted it from my list. Why? Because it's a ******* ghost town for the most part with no direction and no one on coms and it was pretty much always that way. How the hell can you qsync when no one was ever on a mic in your room? Hell Caldari Elite State Army or whatever was more successful than Kirjuun ever has been and all they do is spam invites to Caldari players...
It wasn't ever 'my room', it was listed as the caldari militia channel quite some time ago, along with pie for the amarr and others for gallente and minmatar.
I was disappointed by it being a ghost town as well, so I tried to gather as many players as I could to fill it, I got into contact with *four* caldari fw alliances in eve... and what happened after I left it for a week because I had real life stuff to deal with? It was back to being completely dead - because Z platoon sniped the pilots and the star players. I know people had talks with members of z platoon about getting them to try and work with amarr FW players and people in the kirjuun heiian channel... and the response was the same tired tripe you're spouting now "PUBLIC CHANNEL, SPIES, SCRUBS" repeated ad nauseum.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:30:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote: It wasn't ever 'my room', it was listed as the caldari militia channel quite some time ago in a ccp stickied thread, along with pie for the amarr and others for gallente and minmatar. My corp name is simply a Homage to the phrase the channel was named after.
I was disappointed by it being a ghost town as well, so I tried to gather as many players as I could to fill it, I got into contact with *four* caldari fw alliances in eve... and what happened after I left it for a week because I had real life stuff to deal with? It was back to being completely dead - because Z platoon sniped the pilots and the star players. I know people had talks with members of z platoon about getting them to try and work with amarr FW players and people in the kirjuun heiian channel... and the response was the same tired tripe you're spouting now "PUBLIC CHANNEL, SPIES, SCRUBS" repeated ad nauseum.
Kirjuun had good players but like I said in another post EVE pilots were getting spied on and having fleets wait for them when they would attempt to aid us. Spies are a real thing. The public channel hurt Kirjuun it's as simple as that. By scrubs we just mean we don't want you running militia gear. I'm in a 200K suit and we're not getting ISK. I want my bros running their best fits when they're watching my back. That's what we mean by scrubs. So no we're not really helping the new player experience but faction warfare to me isn't really for new players. PC and FW is where proto gear is meant to be run. In my eyes anyway.
Did you ever attempt to squad with us? If you did, you would have realized we're not a bad bunch. Everyone gravitated around one guy Z 13. I've never really seen anything like it, honestly, this dude was just a good organizer and when he talked everyone listened. When you're pretty much guaranteed a win when you squad with us, people are going to flock to the room. Since he rarely plays anymore we've fallen off a little but we still get together and kick ass. Instead of complaining about us you should try and squad with us. Hit me up in game and I'll invite you. |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1354
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:49:00 -
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So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely ****ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
263
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Posted - 2014.10.10 04:57:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely ****ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn.
Remember their names at all? I honestly can only think of one ******* and I struggle to deal with him myself.
Everyone else is cool. |
Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
57
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Posted - 2014.10.10 05:03:00 -
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Gentlemen and ladies, becalm yourselves, do not lose sight of the true enemy. Also "Kirjuun Heiian" a public channel for caldari fw, get in there, help each other, help the state war machine grow........or not COS DEY ARR AULL SKRUBZZ
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.10.10 05:14:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely ****ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn. Remember their names at all? I honestly can only think of one ******* and I struggle to deal with him myself. Everyone else is cool.
This isn't about the attitudes of individuals, though you've presented yourself in quite a poor manner with the whole 'people in public channels are scrubs'. It's about your attitude as an entity.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:07:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:
This isn't about the attitudes of individuals, though you've presented yourself in quite a poor manner with the whole 'people in public channels are scrubs'. It's about your attitude as an entity.
Now you're twisting my words, I said we don't have scrubs not that pub channel players are scrubs. I'm in a bunch of pub chat FW channels. I was listing pub chat as the Kirjuun demise and it was. At one point Kirjuun was booming, the EVE pilots left because we'd post our location and they'd get attacked. Z Platoon was more secure so they went there. That's pretty much all that happened and it wasn't even a big deal as it was only like two pilots.You're blaming Z platoon for Kirjuun's demise and it wasn't the problem. Kirjuun lacked organization and it slowly died off after and as I remember things Z Platoon wasn't even password protected until a few months ago when we started having problems. It just wasn't broadcasted all over the forums for everyone to know about. |
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