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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:
It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone.
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them. Indeed and this is a problem that could be fixed if you widened your scope, opened up to newer blood, made contact with more Cal FW capsuleers, and called for outside intervention by Amarr FWers. I'm just going to say were changeing the way we run things.Also who ever said we don't taken"scrubs" is lieing if you ask to join you get in. We use to have a pub calfw channel but it bombed. We made a new platoon and the whonchannel went gal/min fw. So illnsay again everyone can join and were here to rp and have fun that it. all the negativty is from the old z platooon. Groups and people change and as a repsentive of that platoon and by my knowledge there only pliot I will try to get the password remove if I can't illmwill convience to make a new "z platoon" and open it to the public so we can have fun and organized play. And we don't do the camping the a lot anymore. It either camp.the redline or your home objective wheich I guessnit the same thing. And I played in amar and gal fw channels and they camp.the redline to when there winning so I don't want to hear complants about that. There was a time I switch to gal because I thought cal was died. But switch back because I was'nt "invited". I hope you guys understand the changes I talk about I have a hard time explaining my self through text o7
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:07:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? z platoon was/is a channel that was formed by a member of kirjuun z 13, we welcome all cal loyalists, our main mission is the retaking of caldari prime, sadly though we haven't been that active lately, if you can follow these simple rules your welcome to join. *don't hack crus and installations *don't tk *leave enemy one objective for killbox. and to prevent redline drama *don't steal vehicles * no shaking babies or the 300 spartans they have disrupted our comms before. anything else you wish to know? The no hack installations rule has been change the killbox thing as kinda been change"redline" The tk and vehicalnthing is common sense. The SB and 300s fight for gal so that why we don't like them. (I don't like them for roleplay reasons.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:19:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW. Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players. Please don't blame your rooms failing on us. The main reason everyone loves running with Z platoon is because we are so organized... it's not our fault players gravitated towards our room. I was in Kirjuun for pretty much ever. I honestly just deleted it from my list. Why? Because it's a ******* ghost town for the most part with no direction and no one on coms and it was pretty much always that way. How the hell can you qsync when no one was ever on a mic in your room? Hell Caldari Elite State Army or whatever was more successful than Kirjuun ever has been and all they do is spam invites to Caldari players... It wasn't ever 'my room', it was listed as the caldari militia channel quite some time ago in a ccp stickied thread, along with pie for the amarr and others for gallente and minmatar. My corp name is simply a Homage to the phrase the channel was named after. I was disappointed by it being a ghost town as well, so I tried to gather as many players as I could to fill it, I got into contact with *four* caldari fw alliances in eve... and what happened after I left it for a week because I had real life stuff to deal with? It was back to being completely dead - because Z platoon sniped the pilots and the star players. I know people had talks with members of z platoon about getting them to try and work with amarr FW players and people in the kirjuun heiian channel... and the response was the same tired tripe you're spouting now "PUBLIC CHANNEL, SPIES, SCRUBS" repeated ad nauseum. I'm just going to say this people and grouos of people change over time. We have change and want to invite others to play withus new or old players and I wish people stop useing the word "scrub". We don't kick anyone from the channel anyone from the channel unless your jns vital who a gal who we rp/troll with. At least give us a try we have change. For get about the negative way old z platoon use to work and at least "try" to give the new zplatoon and chance. And as I said in a another post we will work with any cal/amar fw channel.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:25:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:This is why (despite being Caldari Loyalist) I refuse to do CFW anymore. There are people like this that take it as seriously (probably more seriously at this point) than PC, but others treat it as another pub match. Its just not that fun for either group.
And that I agree adds to the dominance of the Gallente. The people who take it seriously are rokeplayers that it there not many roleplayers in the channel I'm pretty sure I'm the only one everone else is either playing for fun or playing for gear.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 12:54:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:So do I just apply to this channel You just ask but I got to leave the house to do something but a guy called ikillu made a zplatoon pub channel anyone can join and if you want to join zplatoon just ask zplatoon know will just be a hang out for the original members and whoever wants to hang out with us. I cant speak for the others but I'll play in the public channel anytime to make new friends.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:00:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote: The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems. I don't think you understand "the problem" here. If there's an untaken objective right in front of you, you hack it. The blueberry was just doing his job. You know, hacking the point. He gets shot up by the PoS brigade nonetheless. Yeah even I thought shooting a ally for hacking a point is dumb but base on what happen when I played yesterday we no longer kill people who hack things we just ignore them.
Z platoon merc z fleet fc I'm not just role playing I'm here to take calderi prime back by force!
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:58:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:[quote=MINA Longstrike]
I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them. In small games like this, leaders matter, and unfortunately for Caldari Z Platoon is one of very few leaders. As long as you guys keep leading into a small insular group that is isolated from the "pub" players who form the backbone of other FW efforts, Caldari FW will be crippled. I think its great you guys are making a public channel to draw from, but I wont be joining it even though I had a lot of fun playing with you guys in your old channel, because Im sure the second you feel comfortable in how great you are and what scrubs everyone else is you'll turtle up in your private channel until you realize not having a full queue sync sucks again. This despite the fact that I had a ton of fun back when your channel was more open running cal FW with you guys, not that I expect you to remember me, because you dont seem to remember anyone outside your core members even if they contributed alot more than I did. Maybe thats a big part of your problem. I see your point but the "old z platoon" is just a group of friend ATM bwe truly want to get rid of our "elitist private chat" all I have to say give us a chance at least I want z platoon to be a group of friend but the z platoon pub to be the main miltia. I don't even know if your going to understand what I mean but whatever. Oh and we want the pub to be the main force the private channel not even that active anymore so we most likely wont be using much it might just be uses for forming a second team if Tue pub(main) channel is fullq sync and we don't want to confuse coms.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:18:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Well, I guess we'll be queue syncing gallente this weekend to teach these guys a lesson..... :) they won't even show up and its just going to get a bunch of caldari randoms proto stomped again. I don't what you mean by not showing up but we will be playing calfw and we won't back down at least I won't.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:04:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Rant Inbound!!
This is why I gave up on that CalFW **** (excuse my language)!!
Everybody wanted to be this top dog ultra elite, I'm johnny bad ass durr durr, instead of working together to achieve a common goal!
Me and a few guys shared a vision of bringing Caldari players together to initiate a gaming environment, a community, a band of brothers, whom loved everything Caldari and would fight to raise its flag in honor.
Of course the rose tinted glasses dropped off to all the silly nonsense.
We would reach out to people. No response. Oh, I wasn't one of those famous "elite" guys on the forums whom blew each other on the boards daily, so they dismissed. "Who are you?" were the questions. Too many wanna be chiefs and not enough indians.
Then with Caldari Hierarchy, it was open comms. I wanted something more. Something more sophisticated. Military like. In a meeting with folks and we made Kirjuun Heiian after deciding on a name. Told them, let's make it password protected. Let's carefully select the players whom are serious. But no. One ignored me like I was just babbling. Made another comm channel, still open, and the SAME DAMN THING HAPPENED TO KH!
Oh I was upset. Meanwhile, Gallente talking **** and I couldn't say a damn thing besides the common "shut up four eyes" retort. Sometimes it would get nasty. I wanted to shut them up with a unified front, but players were too stupid to understand that with unity comes triumph. No matter the skill, comradity builds people stronger. Oh how I wanted the action to back it, but majority of players whom called themselves Caldari weren't Caldari.
Z Platoon is just another example of the stupidity of the majority of Cal players. NOBODY NETWORKS!! It's like I was dealing with Call of Duty players who didn't want to network with people unless they were elite. It just made me so damn mad!
So I gave up on it. OUKH folded. I watched KH turn into a kiddie show with dinosaurs and unicorns. People in there asking to queue up for GalFW and squads for pub matches!! WTF?!
Left a bitter taste in my mouth man. True Adamance and his guys were my inspiration. I wanted to build something like PIE with players. I respected our allies for that. Those guys were dedicated. We just lacked the intelligent mature players to do so.
So much ineptitude. So much elitism. So much stupidity. IMO, only a handful of people represented the Cal way.
My apologies OP, I know you probably read this before. But everytime this subject comes up (or anything remotely related to it), the sour memory comes to mind and it just pisses me off.
The damn Gallente had a more sophisticated front than us and they are some damn druggies; obnoxious slobs!!! J nirmally runwith z llatoon but today I ran with a group of guys in KH and had a blast try rejoing it indidnt play lone but we won 7 out of 8 when I left.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:18:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Okay. I'm talking about my experience of the past. Why does the internet always pull out "oh well I had this experience now and its hurr durr good".
That has nothing to do with the experience I had and why the Caldari constantly got MOPPED UP before all you new bloods came over to Dust 514
And may I add...STILL GETTING MOPPED UP! Just like the Z Platoon who thinks because they win battles, everything is alright. LOL! It takes a multitude, NOT A SQUAD, to make a difference.
Stop thinking like a infantrymen and think like a General. You can win the battle and still lose the war son. Uh I was just saying how KH was trying to be more active.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.11 11:07:00 -
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Atiim wrote:Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be).
Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go **** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ****ing 'apply' because elitism and **** the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. Weird. Used to be Z13 of Hellstorms channel for Caldari FW. Back when I played with them he used three 5 man squads to sync. Plus sometimes a Sigma squad or spy squad. I had a fall out with them because they demanded I use proto when I didnt need it. Z ran squads well, he FCd well enough. Played classicial music in the back ground. Refused to deploy before he had 15 people. And he kept strict control of these Factions. Out of over 100 matches with them I never lost a single one. Thats all I know. PS, I never ran proto and topped the leaderboard for kills nearly every game. And most of those dudes sucked. Their strength was that we worked together. They finally told me out of jealousy I think I had to run proto like everyone else. So fuckkit, I team killed a few of them and then ran Gal FW against them to no avail. Funny I don't remember that happing what suit did you run anyway? And did they say you had to run proto because if I was not tanking in ran basic to adv. I thought the old rule was no miltia/basic gear but maybe I remembered wrong.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.10.11 14:17:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote: We've had entire corporations invade our chat by someone giving access to the wrong person.
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EDIT: Also we've had EVE pilots spy our channel and block our pilots. That was one of the main problems with Kirjuun.
Entire corporations and Pilots? Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them. There was never a whole corp or eve gal fleet in he channel the most had to be like 5 plus will kill the enemy eve pilots most of the time anyway. And sorry I can't remember there name it was a long time ago.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from megazord the state gunlogi >:D. Kirjuun Heiian Player.
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