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Red Dot 24601-HA wrote:

zzZaXxx wrote:

Red Dot 24601-HA wrote:

Chris F2112 wrote:

Yeah, Ringers Inc. seems to be a good chat to get people from. What you are saying sounds a bit different though. Almost like an unofficial alliance of all indie corporations to help each other out.

I don't want it to be seen as an alliance though. Just indies helping indies without any long term attachments. Ringers Inc is not limited to independent corporations so teamplayers and IE can still be the most used and sought after ringers. This is intended to get the less known and influential players a chance to shine.

So if your indie corp is helping in another corp's PC battle defense or attack, how do you split the rewards? Your troops dropped ISK to defend their planet. Now they continue getting the profit from that planet. Do you get a cut? How much? Being in an alliance with rules and regulations comes in handy in those situations.

It's worth a try but if compensation comes into the picture it might get complicated. And compensation should be discussed because PC is a major ISK sink for grunts and a fountain for corps that can hold districts. But the idea of a loose confederacy of independants operating on a handshake basis is very cool. If it could find its legs it would be a great addition to the community. Fairly big "if" though. Only one way to find out. Good luck.

Its business. If someone wants to ring for free then that's great. If they expect compensation then they will need to be upfront about it and the price negotiated before the battle. If the team loses the ringer is out nothing more than the gear he used in the battle. If they win he gets a cut of the match rewards and good standing in whoever he worked for. Anything else is entirely up to the individuals involved. Once the battle is over there are no more attachments between the two entities.

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Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. 138	Posted - 2013.08.04 06:20:00 - [1] - Quote Why do we give all the work to a select few? When we are struggling to field a team why do we turn to the big names and allow them to have all the fun? There are a lot of talented mercs in New Eden that want a chance to fight in the glorious battles of Planetary Conquest! They just need a place to gather, a pool to be a part of. Give your members a chance to be part of the action! Join the Independent Corporation Network (ICN) The independent corps in New Eden has some stiff competition. We face huge conglomerations of some of the finest corporations in the universe. We have some limited options available to us though. 1.We can allow ourselves to be absorbed into these larger entities and lose our individuality and independence. 2. We can fight and die alone, always overwhelmed by their numbers, talent, and resources. 3.We can learn to work together and help each other succeed. What I am proposing is not an alliance. No one will be in charge and each corporation has complete independence. There will not be any requirements other than your corporation is an independent corporation without any ties to an alliance. You can run your corporation any way you see fit. SE7N has tried the alliance route and did not like the restrictions or regulations it brought with it. However it did bring a pool of allied Mercenaries that we could draw from when we were short people for our battles and squads. Now that we are independent we no longer have that valuable resource. I have started a chat channel (ICN-1) to help independent corporations network together, fill squads, and prepare for battles. Your members will benefit from this service and so will your corporation. Basic business practices are to create contacts and network with other businesses to improve your own success. This channel is for organized groups that need to fill holes in their teams or to organize and make joint efforts in a campaign. Why should we allow the mega corporations and alliances dominate the field? Keep in mind though that it is not an alliance and this is not a cease fire agreement. We can network together and help each other out but that doesnGÇÖt mean we wonGÇÖt be facing each other in battle on the next contract. After all, ItGÇÖs just business. Join the chat channel (ICN-1) today.
Piercing Serenity PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 374	Posted - 2013.08.04 06:23:00 - [2] - Quote Noted. I'm a freelance merc, but I wanna be in the trenches. I'll be on in about a week
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 239	Posted - 2013.08.04 07:42:00 - [3] - Quote There is also the Ringers Inc channel for those seeking ringers for their matches.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 127	Posted - 2013.08.04 07:53:00 - [4] - Quote I hope this isnt an attempt to form one huge blue indie donut lol, i want to see war, indies kicking other indies out of pc and selling their land back to them, make fun of some kids three legged mom. Give me something!
Kinky Burrito A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 120	Posted - 2013.08.04 14:02:00 - [5] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: I hope this isnt an attempt to form one huge blue indie donut lol, i want to see war, indies kicking other indies out of pc and selling their land back to them, make fun of some kids three legged mom. Give me something! Lmao at the guy in Eon complaining about indies bluing up.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 1010	Posted - 2013.08.04 14:48:00 - [6] - Quote Just maake sure your chat is created in EvE and can thus be moderated if necessary +1 and looking forward to seeing what comes of this. Great idea and you see one of the biggest upsides to an alliance. Players.
Zhar Ptitsaa No Free Pass 134	Posted - 2013.08.04 14:52:00 - [7] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Just maake sure your chat is created in EvE and can thus be moderated if necessary +1 and looking forward to seeing what comes of this. Great idea and you see one of the biggest upsides to an alliance. Players. ^^^
Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. 142	Posted - 2013.08.04 15:55:00 - [8] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Just maake sure your chat is created in EvE and can thus be moderated if necessary +1 and looking forward to seeing what comes of this. Great idea and you see one of the biggest upsides to an alliance. Players. Thanks for the heads up on the eve side channel. I will have to get that arranged.
Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. 142	Posted - 2013.08.04 15:56:00 - [9] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: I hope this isnt an attempt to form one huge blue indie donut lol, i want to see war, indies kicking other indies out of pc and selling their land back to them, make fun of some kids three legged mom. Give me something! Not my intention at all. I am sure some mini informal alliances may be made but the post states that "its just business" :)
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 596	Posted - 2013.08.04 19:28:00 - [10] - Quote Channel: Ringers Inc. ... already exists for this purpose bro. More channels just reduces the effectiveness.

Chris F2112 187. 296	Posted - 2013.08.04 19:50:00 - [11] - Quote Yeah, Ringers Inc. seems to be a good chat to get people from. What you are saying sounds a bit different though. Almost like an unofficial alliance of all indie corporations to help each other out.
Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. 144	Posted - 2013.08.04 19:57:00 - [12] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: Yeah, Ringers Inc. seems to be a good chat to get people from. What you are saying sounds a bit different though. Almost like an unofficial alliance of all indie corporations to help each other out. I don't want it to be seen as an alliance though. Just indies helping indies without any long term attachments. Ringers Inc is not limited to independent corporations so teamplayers and IE can still be the most used and sought after ringers. This is intended to get the less known and influential players a chance to shine.
zzZaXxx The Exemplars Top Men. 155	Posted - 2013.08.04 20:19:00 - [13] - Quote Red Dot 24601-HA wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: Yeah, Ringers Inc. seems to be a good chat to get people from. What you are saying sounds a bit different though. Almost like an unofficial alliance of all indie corporations to help each other out. I don't want it to be seen as an alliance though. Just indies helping indies without any long term attachments. Ringers Inc is not limited to independent corporations so teamplayers and IE can still be the most used and sought after ringers. This is intended to get the less known and influential players a chance to shine. So if your indie corp is helping in another corp's PC battle defense or attack, how do you split the rewards? Your troops dropped ISK to defend their planet. Now they continue getting the profit from that planet. Do you get a cut? How much? Being in an alliance with rules and regulations comes in handy in those situations. It's worth a try but if compensation comes into the picture it might get complicated. And compensation should be discussed because PC is a major ISK sink for grunts and a fountain for corps that can hold districts. But the idea of a loose confederacy of independants operating on a handshake basis is very cool. If it could find its legs it would be a great addition to the community. Fairly big "if" though. Only one way to find out. Good luck.
Madagascan Eagle 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 28	Posted - 2013.08.04 21:46:00 - [14] - Quote We would be interested in this. I will tell my guys to join the channel. We are in an alliance but it only contains 3dge of D4rkness Dust-side. So we are an alliance of one corp, would that be an issue for you?
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1683	Posted - 2013.08.04 22:30:00 - [15] - Quote Kinky Burrito wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: I hope this isnt an attempt to form one huge blue indie donut lol, i want to see war, indies kicking other indies out of pc and selling their land back to them, make fun of some kids three legged mom. Give me something! Lmao at the guy in Eon complaining about indies bluing up. derp....what corps blued in EoN? Most of the corps that you guys are afraid of have been in EoN since PC started. If LOI had won the war, I'm pretty sure that you guys would still be in LOI and I'm sure that you guys joined LOI because they were bad ass. So lol @ yourself. Man..this IS starting to get annoying. Assert's point was that instead of joining up to hang out, they should be planning on using each other to ring against each other in these pc battles and not use vets for ringers. Doing so, will create more even fights for the "indie" corps instead of roflstomps when they hire out big boys.
Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. 148	Posted - 2013.08.04 23:28:00 - [16] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Red Dot 24601-HA wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: Yeah, Ringers Inc. seems to be a good chat to get people from. What you are saying sounds a bit different though. Almost like an unofficial alliance of all indie corporations to help each other out. I don't want it to be seen as an alliance though. Just indies helping indies without any long term attachments. Ringers Inc is not limited to independent corporations so teamplayers and IE can still be the most used and sought after ringers. This is intended to get the less known and influential players a chance to shine. So if your indie corp is helping in another corp's PC battle defense or attack, how do you split the rewards? Your troops dropped ISK to defend their planet. Now they continue getting the profit from that planet. Do you get a cut? How much? Being in an alliance with rules and regulations comes in handy in those situations. It's worth a try but if compensation comes into the picture it might get complicated. And compensation should be discussed because PC is a major ISK sink for grunts and a fountain for corps that can hold districts. But the idea of a loose confederacy of independants operating on a handshake basis is very cool. If it could find its legs it would be a great addition to the community. Fairly big "if" though. Only one way to find out. Good luck. Its business. If someone wants to ring for free then that's great. If they expect compensation then they will need to be upfront about it and the price negotiated before the battle. If the team loses the ringer is out nothing more than the gear he used in the battle. If they win he gets a cut of the match rewards and good standing in whoever he worked for. Anything else is entirely up to the individuals involved. Once the battle is over there are no more attachments between the two entities.
Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. 148	Posted - 2013.08.04 23:29:00 - [17] - Quote Madagascan Eagle wrote: We would be interested in this. I will tell my guys to join the channel. We are in an alliance but it only contains 3dge of D4rkness Dust-side. So we are an alliance of one corp, would that be an issue for you? So you are an indie corp in an indie alliance...I guess that qualifies. No issue here.
Gods Architect SVER True Blood 268	Posted - 2013.08.05 01:03:00 - [18] - Quote This could get interesting. I'm looking forward to it. Also please blue completely up and go to a war with EON. Fat kids need love too :p
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. 171	Posted - 2013.08.05 03:39:00 - [19] - Quote Come join us as a GDI!
zzZaXxx The Exemplars Top Men. 155	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:05:00 - [20] - Quote Red Dot 24601-HA wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Red Dot 24601-HA wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: Yeah, Ringers Inc. seems to be a good chat to get people from. What you are saying sounds a bit different though. Almost like an unofficial alliance of all indie corporations to help each other out. I don't want it to be seen as an alliance though. Just indies helping indies without any long term attachments. Ringers Inc is not limited to independent corporations so teamplayers and IE can still be the most used and sought after ringers. This is intended to get the less known and influential players a chance to shine. So if your indie corp is helping in another corp's PC battle defense or attack, how do you split the rewards? Your troops dropped ISK to defend their planet. Now they continue getting the profit from that planet. Do you get a cut? How much? Being in an alliance with rules and regulations comes in handy in those situations. It's worth a try but if compensation comes into the picture it might get complicated. And compensation should be discussed because PC is a major ISK sink for grunts and a fountain for corps that can hold districts. But the idea of a loose confederacy of independants operating on a handshake basis is very cool. If it could find its legs it would be a great addition to the community. Fairly big "if" though. Only one way to find out. Good luck. Its business. If someone wants to ring for free then that's great. If they expect compensation then they will need to be upfront about it and the price negotiated before the battle. If the team loses the ringer is out nothing more than the gear he used in the battle. If they win he gets a cut of the match rewards and good standing in whoever he worked for. Anything else is entirely up to the individuals involved. Once the battle is over there are no more attachments between the two entities. You're a mercenary's mercenary.

Madagascan Eagle 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 28	Posted - 2013.08.05 06:41:00 - [21] - Quote Bump
Falnor 929Gaming S.e.V.e.N. 18	Posted - 2013.08.05 22:26:00 - [22] - Quote bump
Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. 150	Posted - 2013.08.06 12:51:00 - [23] - Quote kiarbanor wrote: Come join us as a GDI! GDI?...Google drone informant?....Get Dem Indies?....Geeky Digital idiots?...Hmmm...What does it mean!?!
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 815	Posted - 2013.08.06 13:06:00 - [24] - Quote GL to your channels.
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. 172	Posted - 2013.08.06 16:28:00 - [25] - Quote "Gosh" "Darn" Independent You can be more harsh with the words in quotes, though. :)
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. 172	Posted - 2013.08.07 05:42:00 - [26] - Quote The channel is starting to get some good indies in there. Come join us!
Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. 159	Posted - 2013.08.09 19:16:00 - [27] - Quote Still looking for more Independent corps to fill the channel with. There are several corps represented so far and would love to see more of you join us.
Grenwal Hiesenberg Shadow Company HQ 241	Posted - 2013.08.09 22:22:00 - [28] - Quote Sound like a nice idea, I'll spread the word to my fellow squadmates indeed!
Falnor 929Gaming S.e.V.e.N. 19	Posted - 2013.08.10 13:43:00 - [29] - Quote bumpy
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. 179	Posted - 2013.08.15 14:33:00 - [30] - Quote Ran with some D3ath D3alers from the ICN channel last night. We had some good games and a lot of fun. Join the ICN!



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