DUST Search - Eon quit with the QQ PR posts. We know the truth.

HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:

Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:

HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:

Barraka fail fail,
Refer to:
4: You guys fail to realise the future of this game and PC is not EON, Its the new corps, new alliances, and new players.
PC and the game will Flurish if EoN dissolved today then everyone could actually enjoy the game and have all the wars they want without pro thumb wigglers calling the shots.

Enough said.

So what your saying is, if EoN died today DUST 514 tomorrow will be the best FPS out got it. Its about the new corps,alliances and players yes thats exactly what this game is about.

If you spent half as much time on coming up with feedback or bitching at CCP for making this game impossible to play for new people(corps/alliances/players) as you did on crying about how big bad EoN is maybe we could move forward.

But alas here we are, blaming the players(apparently the most well organized players) for driving this game to the ground.

You talk about facts but when Zhar gives you some you say nothing and go into troll mode. Hell your an alt to begin with. Wouldnt be surprised if you were Killar, i noticed he stopped posting in the war room and you are aabout as dumb as him.

Continue with the EoN QQ i hope i make an edit into the original post.

Another EoN claiming its all QQ. Thank you Barakka fail fail for proving another fun filled fact, NOW Refer to: Number 7.
You guys make this too easy. Troll on. Roll

7: EON quit calling every post that makes you look bad QQ, your just making yourselves sound even more ignorant.


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Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 595	Posted - 2013.08.04 19:16:00 - [1] - Quote HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Barraka fail fail, Refer to: 4: You guys fail to realise the future of this game and PC is not EON, Its the new corps, new alliances, and new players. PC and the game will Flurish if EoN dissolved today then everyone could actually enjoy the game and have all the wars they want without pro thumb wigglers calling the shots. Enough said. So what your saying is, if EoN died today DUST 514 tomorrow will be the best FPS out got it. Its about the new corps,alliances and players yes thats exactly what this game is about. If you spent half as much time on coming up with feedback or bitching at CCP for making this game impossible to play for new people(corps/alliances/players) as you did on crying about how big bad EoN is maybe we could move forward. But alas here we are, blaming the players(apparently the most well organized players) for driving this game to the ground. You talk about facts but when Zhar gives you some you say nothing and go into troll mode. Hell your an alt to begin with. Wouldnt be surprised if you were Killar, i noticed he stopped posting in the war room and you are aabout as dumb as him. Continue with the EoN QQ i hope i make an edit into the original post. Another EoN claiming its all QQ. Thank you Barakka fail fail for proving another fun filled fact, NOW Refer to: Number 7. You guys make this too easy. Troll on. 7: EON quit calling every post that makes you look bad QQ, your just making yourselves sound even more ignorant. You called EoN. easy mode and say we can field 15 A-teams at a time because we have 15 corp tags. You don't really understand PC mechanics bro, just sayin. IMO the post doesn't make us look bad, it's like... overly complimentary. lol You are failing to respond to any posts refuting your original points because they challenge your position, and instead you accuse any EoN member challenging your position of being part of some conspiracy to call "QQ" on the rest of the community. You literally compared EoN. to PRO... do you even play this game dude? You're not worthy of debate bro, you're just a dude on a street corner with a cardboard sign.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 597	Posted - 2013.08.04 21:37:00 - [2] - Quote Your facts are ... debatable.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 598	Posted - 2013.08.04 22:22:00 - [3] - Quote HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Your facts are ... debatable. Not by EoN they are not. Your judgement is clouded by the fact you hold the Tag and you think just because som1 does not hold said tag they are not relevant. Which is sad on your part and just adds to your very large "Debatable" Egos. Weeeeellll... then your judgement is clouded because you are NOT in EoN. and view everyone in EoN. as an egotistical evil boogy monster. See how that argument goes both ways? "you think just because som1 does not hold said tag they are not relevant." Beyond the obvious that inspires, ACTually, you are the one who says that people outside EoN. are not relevant when you say things like the only thing that will fix PC is EoN. dissolving. I see most EoN bros on the forums calling for someone to come attack us. We believe in you bro, even if you don't.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 602	Posted - 2013.08.05 02:57:00 - [4] - Quote HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Ty, Ty. Those guys are the only reason why I started using the meta/politics against them. But its working so get over it, you guys started it The point here kiddo, the thing that keeps us all coming back to this thread, the thing that is me spit my coffee out as I laugh... ... is that you really really suck at this. It's like the special olympics of forum warrioring. You actually thing you're winning here. At this point, we're laughing AT you kid. Just stop, it's sad.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 605	Posted - 2013.08.05 03:42:00 - [5] - Quote The masses don't read these posts kiddo. Perhaps it serves our purposes to keep the tears on top of the pile.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 607	Posted - 2013.08.05 06:42:00 - [6] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Meta war? If thats what this is you guys suck at it. This was to destroy you and turn the masses against you, kind of like ancient rome. The mob is fickle. Ive succeded at 1/2 the job and planted the thoughts and hate needed to finish the job. It may take time, but it can be done ok, community hates EoN...now what? Now they unite and attack us. Woot!!! Haven't we been suggesting that?
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 622	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:02:00 - [7] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: And again you go straight to the past. Who gives a flux about EvE? Or what people thought would or woudlnt happen 2-3 months ago. You are chest thumping again. Stop. You have blinders on buddy. Lets say for a second you split up the alliance into two equal parts. Whose to say you couldnt just put it right back together at the first sign of "trouble". Trouble being, you know, another alliance capable of giving you a run for your money. There is no risk in that scenario, all it would do would accompish the goals I already outlied above. 1. Gives EoN blokes something to do other than pubstomping and/or forum trolling. A challenge, you know.. what you all claim to want so much. 2. Breathing room to see if PC would grow again. May not happen, but what else are you doing right now besides farmville and PFC? Respect for posting-on-main. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=95067 The link marks the effective beginning of EoN.'s reign as single superpower ... until that time, 'who will dominate?" was in question and there was still competition and the chance that someone else would 'rule'. That post was made on 17 July. Exactly 20 days ago. Less than three weeks. I think literally within 1 week of LoI falling, QQ against EoN. started. It just seems like the community in general forgets things very quickly and just wants to be pacified RIGHT NOW. "EoN. Break up RIGHT NOW!!!" ... I think Mav's point was that this is a long-term game and the alliance was built over a long time. Why throw-it-all-away because ALL OF A SUDDEN!!!! there is no one else competing? That's where a lot of the EoN. eye rolling is coming from, from this vocal grunt's perspective. Some of the rest is just boredom and going for the cheap one-liner because ... well ... there's enough time for "supr srs" IRL. With respect to all parties, I think honestly the *complete and utter crumbling of LoI came as a shock* and we are all still figuring out what to do next. We were settling in for "The Long War" predicted to "Last several months" and all of a sudden we're getting yelled at and called the evil empire. I genuinely "no meta" think Mav and Cubs (as point man) are really trying to do what they see as the right thing when it comes to helping out indy corps. Any issues in that direction come from eye-rollingly bad mechanics and exploits of the system (community complaints and misconceptions about ringers, solo-corp ISK farming, expected levels of participation on PFC, etc) that through various forums the leadership has been trying to solve. This isn't a job, so you have to forgive the lack of an immediate response plan for "we took over the universe... execute 'Implosion Protocal Alpha'!" whereby we would automatically just disband. I don't think EoN. is going to break apart on a 'whim'. All of the saber rattling from EoN. thugs is genuine though. We want an enemy to go hardcore on again for balls-to-the-wall "my rep stands on the results of this fight, rawr you evil evil enemy!!!" kind of matches and I somehow don't think just splitting EoN. in two would fulfill that. It would be too friendly. It would feel like scrimmages. It would lack the necessary dehumanization of 'the other' that reduces empathy for the opponent and allows conquest to be singularly fulfilling. But enough of the jibba jabba... w/e. Think I'll stop posting in these EoN. threads because at this point, all that can be said on either side has been said I think. And I need to grind out alts.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 622	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:04:00 - [8] - Quote /me should l2read next page. "/thread" ... oops.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. Eon. 629	Posted - 2013.08.07 18:46:00 - [9] - Quote Chilled Pill wrote: I bet there's a thread somewhere that points you guys to this thread. You guys are adorable. :) Numbsies chose you well. No, there are just several of us that are forum rats of our own volition. You notice it's the same guys who are always on here. Most of the playerbase never touches the forums dude. The War Room isn't exactly "hoppin" so there's not much else to do on the forums but post in threads like these and respond to the one guy a day who asks a valid question in rookie training grounds.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 633	Posted - 2013.08.08 22:08:00 - [10] - Quote HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Considering EoN is farming the districts, No1 else has the funds to wage war even if they wanted too. EoN has the funds but no1 to attack and your still asking whats broke? How is that CCP's fault? People were saying it was broke before EoN became the dominant alliance I didnt say it was CCP's fault, thats EoN's fault. They kick everyone off the map, control the map so no1 other than them can raise money, then wonder why there is no1 left to fight.. This is just turning into a round and round and im not even trying to rant on EoN this time Not counting any of the money in the corp wallet earned from PC, I could personally buy 7 clone packs by myself right now. Perhaps our prospective enemies should stop spending all of their hard earned isk on hookers and booze. What i meant was ALOT of the smaller corps newer players ect that your asking us to band together to wage war dont have the isk we vets do. Say we band together 30 corps, 30mill x 30= too damn much and thats 1 attack for each. Not really dude. Seriously. 16 people to fight a PC match. 30 million per clone pack. In Soviet Russia, this is 1,875,000 per player in required donations for a corp that wants to bootstrap itself into PC. Running cheap suits spamming ambushes, let's call that 10 pub matches for a player to earn the ISK needed for his share. You can realistically run 10 ambushes in no more than 3 hours. Say a guy has time to play an hour a day. That means in 6 days, he can fund his share of TWO clone packs. On day 7 he fights two PC battles and if he wins, he gets a nice payout; if he loses, he can play for half an hour to finance personal suit replacement. NOW realistically, a corp should have more than 16 people, and if interested in PC they probably play more than 7 hours a week. But using the numbers above, it takes exactly 72 people putting in this minimal effort to fund 1x clone pack a day to prosecute a war one district at a time unto eternity. More effort per person means you require even smaller corps can pull this off. And if you saved for a couple weeks or dipped into existing savings to build a corp buffer, you'd be able to execute an attack on several districts at once for the first week. Above post isn't even about EoN. vs. non-EoN... it's just demonstrates the very basic level of organization and financial maturity a new corp needs to execute planning and be aware of revenue streams to get into PC. See how this **** works?

Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 633	Posted - 2013.08.08 22:50:00 - [11] - Quote HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Will you shut up already, im not even gonna read that wall of ramblings. Point is EoN is bringing in tons of isk because loleon is easy mode. You think players want to grind and work there azzes off to give you guys somthing you want? lol no. Are you stupid? Quit hanging out with Fail Shame his ignorance is rubbing off on you
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 633	Posted - 2013.08.08 23:01:00 - [12] - Quote Also LOL @ "Oh Lawdy I wish someone had some isk around here!" inb4... Kujo's wallet inb4... Kain's wallet inb4... Sha's wallet inb4... poor poor indy alliances all have >1000 members... even Dust University's sitting on prob a billion ISK (their district being untouchable)