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Text Grant
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:20:00 -
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Why is there no fall off damage at the end of the blast radius? On grenades there is fall off damage. What sense does it make to just end the damage? |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:25:00 -
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Wheres the dislike button?... |
Kadar Saeleid
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:43:00 -
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Actually there are a few minor problems with easy fixes. I killed a few people with a mass driver at 1 m distance and didn't die, which was awesome, but not very realistic. Even a flaylock (pre-nerf) would hurt a lot at that range. Maybe this should apply to mass drivers as well. Their role should be at the back of squads, protected by the assaults and heavys, in my opinion.
Secondly, I was hunting down enemy uplinks, and after destroying the second of five, I was remote explosive' d to death. While it gave me a chuckle, I thought maybe the explosive should've taken out the uplinks. 1000 damage to me should easily melt a few uplinks.
Just a few ideas to think about, CCP. |
Text Grant
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:47:00 -
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i think thats because direct hits arnt dealing splash atm. Im not positive on this though |
low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:49:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Why is there no fall off damage at the end of the blast radius? On grenades there is fall off damage. What sense does it make to just end the damage?
that's because they're far harder to hit with at long ranges. |
Text Grant
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:50:00 -
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low genius wrote:Text Grant wrote:Why is there no fall off damage at the end of the blast radius? On grenades there is fall off damage. What sense does it make to just end the damage? that's because they're far harder to hit with at long ranges.
They do much more damage. They don't need to be full damage all the way out to the end of their radius as well |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:53:00 -
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Don't touch the mass driver. It's gonna be useless again since it barely has ammo. |
ugg reset
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:54:00 -
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IMO if there is to be fall damage it should start where the damage ends at the present time. |
Justin Tymes
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.03 20:23:00 -
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Kadar Saeleid wrote:Actually there are a few minor problems with easy fixes. I killed a few people with a mass driver at 1 m distance and didn't die, which was awesome, but not very realistic. Even a flaylock (pre-nerf) would hurt a lot at that range. Maybe this should apply to mass drivers as well. Their role should be at the back of squads, protected by the assaults and heavys, in my opinion.
Secondly, I was hunting down enemy uplinks, and after destroying the second of five, I was remote explosive' d to death. While it gave me a chuckle, I thought maybe the explosive should've taken out the uplinks. 1000 damage to me should easily melt a few uplinks.
Just a few ideas to think about, CCP.
Have you ever tried facing someone with Complex Shield Mods using only an Assault MD at less then 10 meters? Good luck not being killed by your own splash. |
Text Grant
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.03 22:02:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Don't touch the mass driver. It's gonna be useless again since it barely has ammo.
This was aimed at explosions in general. Everyone knows you love to defend your op weapons steve. Even if it does ruin the game |
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.03 23:02:00 -
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This request has started popping up quite a bit.
Oh well, I still agree with it.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST  .
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.08.04 02:09:00 -
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This would be fine so long as the splash damage was bumped up to start at the direct damage amount (that may need buffed as well) and the splash radius was also buffed.
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Text Grant
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.04 18:38:00 -
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The splash radius is fine. It kills anyone that tries to take cover. Forget buffs. |
Bettie Boop 2100190003
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:00:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:i think thats because direct hits arnt dealing splash atm. Im not positive on this though
Trust me, direct hits do splash damage. If your using one of the high DD low Splash damage MDs you can CQC like no ones business. The other side of this is the assault MDs large splash radius and rapid ROF which is what you see a lot of people abusing.
The real problem with explosive weapons (and just about all other weapons) is damage mods, it shows up most in weapons with a blast radius. Adding between 30 and 40% to the splash damage is just STUPID. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:14:00 -
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Splash damage is still "flat" as well, rather than spherical which causes various issues with occlusion, bunny hopping etc. such as a MD using scout jumping over damage as he fires at his own feet 
[Side note: can we please have the old MD arc back? Pretty please?]
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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:16:00 -
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Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote:The real problem with explosive weapons (and just about all other weapons) is damage mods.
Yeah, I'm still not 100% on this but my testing has been slowly leaning me towards the same conclusion for a few builds now. 
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Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
163
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:40:00 -
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I sincerely hope CCP revises the explosion physics by adding dynamic aspects like consideration of explosion velocity vs target velocity as well as falloff around the edges of explosions. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.08.05 02:09:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:I sincerely hope CCP revises the explosion physics by adding dynamic aspects like consideration of explosion velocity vs target velocity as well as falloff around the edges of explosions.
The falloff would be fine, so long as it was accompanied with an equivalent buff to the damage and probably radius of splash damage.
The velocity thing though doesn't seem important IMHO. The velocity of explosions is so vastly larger than any movement speed, that it seems like a pointless calculation.
As a real world example, the explosion velocity of C4 is over 8000 m/s.
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.05 02:24:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Don't touch the mass driver. It's gonna be useless again since it barely has ammo. This was aimed at explosions in general. Everyone knows you love to defend your op weapons steve. Even if it does ruin the game
I got a ar at level four and a nova knife about to get level 3. May I defend those OP weapons sir? Fk out of here scrub. |
Text Grant
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.05 07:05:00 -
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Steve please refrain yourself from name calling and cursing if you wish to be taken seriously. Buster, I still disagree with the buff because of how horribly it already tears through armor tanks |
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low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
251
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:14:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:low genius wrote:Text Grant wrote:Why is there no fall off damage at the end of the blast radius? On grenades there is fall off damage. What sense does it make to just end the damage? that's because they're far harder to hit with at long ranges. They do much more damage. They don't need to be full damage all the way out to the end of their radius as well
i guess i'm not sure how you would explain this in 'real' terms. the grenade is going to explode, easy as that. the mass driver has very little ammo, and is not nearly as deadly as an ar. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:26:00 -
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mass driver just needs its rof lowered...
and it also needs more ammo... |
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