DUST Search - the lost alliance and what to come next..

The Robot Devil wrote:

This game isn't a normal fps and the more people treat it like one the worse the game will be to them. It's like buying a Porsche and using it to deliver mail. This game is about politics and bragging rights. It is stressful and it does burn people out. I blame active SP and the false idea that a merc can't operate without full prototype gear.

This game has good potential and will probably be good but if no one can get past the grinding mentality then it is already dead. Leadership is difficult and maintaining good moral is even more difficult.

Corporate managers are going to have to accept the fact that a full ringer team isn't always possible and be ready, willing and prepared to send B+ mercs into battle for defense of districts. Lack of content and a dropsuit selection that leaves people feeling forgotten and overlooked only makes things worse.

Only the strongest clans will be able to handle to shift to DUST because there is a big difference between a clan and a corporation. People make fun of the single shard/mmo part of DUST and call it BS but it breaks normal fps clans down and it is because they have to compete with everyone all the time not just some random guy whom was matched up with them.

Match making takes the mmo out of DUST buy not letting us just go there. Start opening districts in every system and restrict some gear by sec status. Drop match making and let us make our own battles.

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godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 10	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:57:00 - [1] - Quote in the p.c. war battles in between hellstorm and warravens,annonymous,187..we have had many allies and now there all dead and gone...times are changing even I left what was once a home for 3 years from MAG to dust514....WARRAVENS.... due to bulllshit political jive and leadership failure...In the end there is no rebuilding,and there is no hope 187 was disbanded,annonymous has left and hellstorm has suffered heavy loses on the batlefield...this doesnt mean they arnt a corporation it doesnt mean they failed...this game is full of stress levels ,such people cant handle...in the end what your left with is a leadership scale of failure..deceit..and complete failure to communcate..this game isnt the problem its mass actions of morons united of why things fell..for some groups such as eon is still standing..southern legion will finish warravens off if they cant hold the line and so on,so forth..everything unfolds here,and whats to come is the biggest question...i left my corp to end my p.c. war days for an enjoyment of the real game...i can be hired but for no corporation will i ever assign myself a ranking nor' will i fight for unjust idioticness..its a video game,yes this is a given,but the games that is politically played is something that was forever unforseen...to those corps that are still strong and still trying to hold there districts..i give them ( o7 ) keep up the fight some of us never finished...all in all,our alliance is dead and the bones will be picked clean from this point forward....all those guys in eon and southern legion..g/l you guys are one hell of the fighters..as for even the rest of you fighting that great battle out there...be weary it only gets harder, and the enemies get even smarter..this game can change in the blink of the fingers as you tear them down with the weapons you use to soak your hands with the blood as walk over your districts...i believe in all of you,even if you weren't in my corporation.. god be with you my reasoning for leaving my corporation after 3 years....PEACE OF WAR is what 8 or more of us wanted...and peace of war is what we have achieved. G.H.9
Chris F2112 187. 285	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:59:00 - [2] - Quote Uhh, 187 wasn't disbanded... And that's about as far as I could read without blanking out due to the block of text.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 709	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:01:00 - [3] - Quote nice speech. really sucks what happened to your corp and our old alliance, very unfortionet
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:02:00 - [4] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: Uhh, 187 wasn't disbanded... And that's about as far as I could read without blanking out due to the block of text. well not technically disbanded but most of you left..
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:04:00 - [5] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: nice speech. really sucks what happened to your corp and our old alliance, very unfortionet you basstaaaddd lol.. good to see your words in here my friend..long time brother.yea bro everything went to ****...idk what the hell is everyones ordeal these days..like isk isnt enough..like there fighting for f'in diamonds in africa or something lol
Chris F2112 187. 285	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:04:00 - [6] - Quote godhands9 wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: Uhh, 187 wasn't disbanded... And that's about as far as I could read without blanking out due to the block of text. well not technically disbanded but most of you left.. Not even. We just left the alliance. Everyone who was here is still here.
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:06:00 - [7] - Quote oh **** my appologies brother..i must have read what (th3 truth) said the wrong way then...either way man what i wrote is true.so many wasted months.
Bubba Salaman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:07:00 - [8] - Quote godhands9 wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: Uhh, 187 wasn't disbanded... And that's about as far as I could read without blanking out due to the block of text. well not technically disbanded but most of you left.. There's a better word for that, failcascade. You guys failcascaded.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 709	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:07:00 - [9] - Quote godhands9 wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: nice speech. really sucks what happened to your corp and our old alliance, very unfortionet you basstaaaddd lol.. good to see your words in here my friend..long time brother.yea bro everything went to ****...idk what the hell is everyones ordeal these days..like isk isnt enough..like there fighting for f'in diamonds in africa or something lol lol 3erd world promblems these things happen, but its okay sometimes its good to start over. lets squad up sometime, yo
Jax Saurian GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 65	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:07:00 - [10] - Quote that speech was so... was.. If only I could... care about this

godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:10:00 - [11] - Quote Bubba Salaman wrote: godhands9 wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: Uhh, 187 wasn't disbanded... And that's about as far as I could read without blanking out due to the block of text. well not technically disbanded but most of you left.. There's a better word for that, failcascade. You guys failcascaded. you should have a little descensy man..i might have left but i still have respects..to my family
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:11:00 - [12] - Quote Jax Saurian wrote: that speech was so... was.. If only I could... care about this nothing nice to say shut your mouth.its not for you to step on with your dirty feet. keep your fuked up comments on c.o.d. brother!
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:12:00 - [13] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: godhands9 wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: nice speech. really sucks what happened to your corp and our old alliance, very unfortionet you basstaaaddd lol.. good to see your words in here my friend..long time brother.yea bro everything went to ****...idk what the hell is everyones ordeal these days..like isk isnt enough..like there fighting for f'in diamonds in africa or something lol lol 3erd world promblems these things happen, but its okay sometimes its good to start over. lets squad up sometime, yo always brother..take care of yourself man.
Bubba Salaman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 5	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:17:00 - [14] - Quote godhands9 wrote: Bubba Salaman wrote: godhands9 wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: Uhh, 187 wasn't disbanded... And that's about as far as I could read without blanking out due to the block of text. well not technically disbanded but most of you left.. There's a better word for that, failcascade. You guys failcascaded. you should have a little descensy man..i might have left but i still have respects..to my family No, that's actually the word that is actually used. Failcascade (n.) : The great migration of a large number of players from an Eve or Dust corp in a relatively short period. Often due to the snowball effect of other prominent members leaving causing the main group of players in the corp to jump ship.
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:19:00 - [15] - Quote thanks for clearing that up... i had different thoughts on that i always think of disrespect on here cause most people are duches on here lol ..im just frustrated it had to end in such a stupid way for hundreds of badasss players...
Jax Saurian GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 66	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:19:00 - [16] - Quote godhands9 wrote: Jax Saurian wrote: that speech was so... was.. If only I could... care about this nothing nice to say shut your mouth.its not for you to step on with your dirty feet. keep your fuked up comments on c.o.d. brother! Tis but a joke Your speech was actually really nice p.s. I hate C.O.D.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 900	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:21:00 - [17] - Quote Sad to see you go, was fun squading with you and wish you the best in whatever it is you decide to do P.S. I'm going to miss all the emails that said "Enjin: godhands9 posted something on their wall" lol. You sure did a lot of wall posts.
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:23:00 - [18] - Quote Jax Saurian wrote: godhands9 wrote: Jax Saurian wrote: that speech was so... was.. If only I could... care about this nothing nice to say shut your mouth.its not for you to step on with your dirty feet. keep your fuked up comments on c.o.d. brother! Tis but a joke Your speech was actually really nice p.s. I hate C.O.D. lol i hate it to brother...i respect your words man thankyou very much.
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:28:00 - [19] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Sad to see you go, was fun squading with you and wish you the best in whatever it is you decide to do P.S. I'm going to miss all the emails that said "Enjin: godhands9 posted something on their wall" lol. You sure did a lot of wall posts. i loved being a part of something as powerful as what we had my friend....i just dont know what happened to the minds of those leading us...i felt like if i was ceo of my corp. things would have went 10x better...its sad..really is sad...i never told you i was sorry about what happend to you guys either...alot has happened in a couple months..and the rest will look at the game alot differently very soon..or there end is soon....
The Robot Devil BetaMax. 798	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:28:00 - [20] - Quote This game isn't a normal fps and the more people treat it like one the worse the game will be to them. It's like buying a Porsche and using it to deliver mail. This game is about politics and bragging rights. It is stressful and it does burn people out. I blame active SP and the false idea that a merc can't operate without full prototype gear. This game has good potential and will probably be good but if no one can get past the grinding mentality then it is already dead. Leadership is difficult and maintaining good moral is even more difficult. Corporate managers are going to have to accept the fact that a full ringer team isn't always possible and be ready, willing and prepared to send B+ mercs into battle for defense of districts. Lack of content and a dropsuit selection that leaves people feeling forgotten and overlooked only makes things worse. Only the strongest clans will be able to handle to shift to DUST because there is a big difference between a clan and a corporation. People make fun of the single shard/mmo part of DUST and call it BS but it breaks normal fps clans down and it is because they have to compete with everyone all the time not just some random guy whom was matched up with them. Match making takes the mmo out of DUST buy not letting us just go there. Start opening districts in every system and restrict some gear by sec status. Drop match making and let us make our own battles.

godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:33:00 - [21] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: This game isn't a normal fps and the more people treat it like one the worse the game will be to them. It's like buying a Porsche and using it to deliver mail. This game is about politics and bragging rights. It is stressful and it does burn people out. I blame active SP and the false idea that a merc can't operate without full prototype gear. This game has good potential and will probably be good but if no one can get past the grinding mentality then it is already dead. Leadership is difficult and maintaining good moral is even more difficult. Corporate managers are going to have to accept the fact that a full ringer team isn't always possible and be ready, willing and prepared to send B+ mercs into battle for defense of districts. Lack of content and a dropsuit selection that leaves people feeling forgotten and overlooked only makes things worse. Only the strongest clans will be able to handle to shift to DUST because there is a big difference between a clan and a corporation. People make fun of the single shard/mmo part of DUST and call it BS but it breaks normal fps clans down and it is because they have to compete with everyone all the time not just some random guy whom was matched up with them. Match making takes the mmo out of DUST buy not letting us just go there. Start opening districts in every system and restrict some gear by sec status. Drop match making and let us make our own battles. well said my friend thankyou for your words..
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 900	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:53:00 - [22] - Quote godhands9 wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: Sad to see you go, was fun squading with you and wish you the best in whatever it is you decide to do P.S. I'm going to miss all the emails that said "Enjin: godhands9 posted something on their wall" lol. You sure did a lot of wall posts. i loved being a part of something as powerful as what we had my friend....i just dont know what happened to the minds of those leading us...i felt like if i was ceo of my corp. things would have went 10x better...its sad..really is sad...i never told you i was sorry about what happend to you guys either...alot has happened in a couple months..and the rest will look at the game alot differently very soon..or there end is soon.... Yeah, honestly I have no idea what goes on most of the time in my corp or the alliance. I am pretty hands-off, and while I would like to be more involved, I just don't play as much as it would require to really get things done. So I just do my own thing and stay out of it (mostly). Which is fine by me, I am no leader and I certainly don't have the social patience to deal with it all.
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 13	Posted - 2013.08.03 06:25:00 - [23] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: godhands9 wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: Sad to see you go, was fun squading with you and wish you the best in whatever it is you decide to do P.S. I'm going to miss all the emails that said "Enjin: godhands9 posted something on their wall" lol. You sure did a lot of wall posts. i loved being a part of something as powerful as what we had my friend....i just dont know what happened to the minds of those leading us...i felt like if i was ceo of my corp. things would have went 10x better...its sad..really is sad...i never told you i was sorry about what happend to you guys either...alot has happened in a couple months..and the rest will look at the game alot differently very soon..or there end is soon.... Yeah, honestly I have no idea what goes on most of the time in my corp or the alliance. I am pretty hands-off, and while I would like to be more involved, I just don't play as much as it would require to really get things done. So I just do my own thing and stay out of it (mostly). Which is fine by me, I am no leader and I certainly don't have the social patience to deal with it all. heard that brother..you ever need me ill be here man
godhands9 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 77	Posted - 2013.10.09 08:15:00 - [24] - Quote I miss the old days.
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 241	Posted - 2013.10.09 08:30:00 - [25] - Quote The old days were good.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1064	Posted - 2013.10.09 13:05:00 - [26] - Quote No disrespect to clans from outside of New Eden, but i would be honestly and happily impressed if a single fps clan survived as a corp in DUST. Maybe a clan of older guys or RL vets might stand a chance, if they're content to stay in the shallow end of the pool. Corps and Alliances are going to shatter under the blows and buckle under the stress of the New Eden endgame. They will be alloyed, reforged and tempered into something far stronger and then ripped apart again, until what emerges out of this process are genuine New Eden entities. These forces will operate just as ruthlessly on the psyches of the individual mercs who take part in it over the course of years. Until eventually new players coming into the game will shake their heads in wonder and disgust at the twisted, ruthless political monsters you have all become. Is any game worth that? Take it from a vet - leave now, while you still can.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1941	Posted - 2013.10.09 13:22:00 - [27] - Quote A lot of New Eden is built around the political game. What you are describing happens on a daily basis in Eve, and has been for 10 years. This type of "drama" is what makes CCP games unique, for better or worse.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1941	Posted - 2013.10.09 13:25:00 - [28] - Quote godhands9 wrote: Bubba Salaman wrote: godhands9 wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: Uhh, 187 wasn't disbanded... And that's about as far as I could read without blanking out due to the block of text. well not technically disbanded but most of you left.. There's a better word for that, failcascade. You guys failcascaded. you should have a little descensy man..i might have left but i still have respects..to my family He's serious - a cascade failure is a legitimate term that references the sudden collapse of an alliance. This wasn't an attack - he was trying to let you know you aren't the first, and won't be the last.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1941	Posted - 2013.10.09 13:32:00 - [29] - Quote On an unrelated note: did anyone else notice that Test lost 1700 pilots in the last week?
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis 597	Posted - 2013.10.09 14:13:00 - [30] - Quote We were actually very excited for the LOI/EoN. war when it was pitched to us. We wanted to have some great fights between old friends. Sadly that turned into a cluster-f that even the term cascade would be too tame to describe what went on. I feel your pain man. After that war, the majority of our clan decided that this game had too many issues to risk losing our core and moved on to other games.



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