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KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:21:00 -
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just curious with trading maybe coming out sometime one year :P
what would u sell BPO's for?
i know i have 2 exiles im sure would sell pretty high but how much do u think BPO's might sell for in a player market?
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
638
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:33:00 -
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Anything that can't be bought would probably be bought for a bunch more isk.
I think the toxic SMG sells for around 13000 AUR so that's like 6 or 7 bucks US...so I guess if we went by isk to aur...a 100 aur item cost 50k isk...its like 6 or 7 million isk...
Will the weapon sell for that much? No idea. Its all about the player market. |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:41:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Anything that can't be bought would probably be bought for a bunch more isk.
I think the toxic SMG sells for around 13000 AUR so that's like 6 or 7 bucks US...so I guess if we went by isk to aur...a 100 aur item cost 50k isk...its like 6 or 7 million isk...
Will the weapon sell for that much? No idea. Its all about the player market.
**** id buy the toxin smg for more :P my idea was thinking 10 mil was the minimum id hear |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
132
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:45:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:just curious with trading maybe coming out sometime one year :P
what would u sell BPO's for?
i know i have 2 exiles im sure would sell pretty high but how much do u think BPO's might sell for in a player market?
I do not think that this will be ever possible - trade BPO. If you want one, you need to buy it from CCP. When Eve connect it's wallet to Dust, every merc will be rich. |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:48:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:just curious with trading maybe coming out sometime one year :P
what would u sell BPO's for?
i know i have 2 exiles im sure would sell pretty high but how much do u think BPO's might sell for in a player market?
I do not think that this will be ever possible - trade BPO. If you want one, you need to buy it from CCP. When Eve connect it's wallet to Dust, every merc will be rich.
well i think a lot of people would buy BPO's just to sell for large amounts of isk if they don't plan on adding it they really should cause i know all that stuff will really make the market go crazy |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
638
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:52:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:just curious with trading maybe coming out sometime one year :P
what would u sell BPO's for?
i know i have 2 exiles im sure would sell pretty high but how much do u think BPO's might sell for in a player market?
I do not think that this will be ever possible - trade BPO. If you want one, you need to buy it from CCP. When Eve connect it's wallet to Dust, every merc will be rich. People would still buy them to sell for isk. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
498
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:54:00 -
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I would sell my BPOs for the same price as some boosters I have more than 100 locus bpo and 50 mlt ar bpos to sell |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:56:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:I would sell my BPOs for the same price as some boosters I have more than 100 locus bpo and 50 mlt ar bpos to sell
BPO's? or BPC's? if BPO's damn u spent a lot of money :P
EDIT: come to think of it now that u said boosters how much u think those may go for? |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
638
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:58:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:EternalRMG wrote:I would sell my BPOs for the same price as some boosters I have more than 100 locus bpo and 50 mlt ar bpos to sell BPO's? or BPC's? if BPO's damn u spent a lot of money :P EDIT: come to think of it now that u said boosters how much u think those may go for? They were cheap in closed beta. Wish I bought more... |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
132
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:58:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:just curious with trading maybe coming out sometime one year :P
what would u sell BPO's for?
i know i have 2 exiles im sure would sell pretty high but how much do u think BPO's might sell for in a player market?
I do not think that this will be ever possible - trade BPO. If you want one, you need to buy it from CCP. When Eve connect it's wallet to Dust, every merc will be rich. well i think a lot of people would buy BPO's just to sell for large amounts of isk if they don't plan on adding it they really should cause i know all that stuff will really make the market go crazy Market of isk's, not dollars . At moment when BPO will be possible to trade they isk value will rise sky-high on market while remaining in the same places on dollar market. They will start to be exclusive for Dust merc, and affordable for average EVE player. Maybe I don't know much about market, it seems to me that it would broke the game at some point.
We will have open market for people that want to sell AUR BPC for ISK, and I think that this is ok because those items will not cost much(in isk).
btw: I bought 1k Charge Sniper Rifle when they cost 2k - now I'm rich |
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KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:00:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:EternalRMG wrote:I would sell my BPOs for the same price as some boosters I have more than 100 locus bpo and 50 mlt ar bpos to sell BPO's? or BPC's? if BPO's damn u spent a lot of money :P EDIT: come to think of it now that u said boosters how much u think those may go for? They were cheap in closed beta. Wish I bought more...
damn man where was i? how much were they? |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
132
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:02:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:EternalRMG wrote:I would sell my BPOs for the same price as some boosters I have more than 100 locus bpo and 50 mlt ar bpos to sell BPO's? or BPC's? if BPO's damn u spent a lot of money :P EDIT: come to think of it now that u said boosters how much u think those may go for? They were cheap in closed beta. Wish I bought more... damn man where was i? how much were they? Something like 100-200 AUR.
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KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:05:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:EternalRMG wrote:I would sell my BPOs for the same price as some boosters I have more than 100 locus bpo and 50 mlt ar bpos to sell BPO's? or BPC's? if BPO's damn u spent a lot of money :P EDIT: come to think of it now that u said boosters how much u think those may go for? They were cheap in closed beta. Wish I bought more... damn man where was i? how much were they? Something like 100-200 AUR.
that's is a really really really good price for BPO's im sad now :( |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
969
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:07:00 -
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Beta - militia cpu upgrade... 20AUR
i can fit a full tank and suit with just BPO's ;)
If only there was a BPO tank |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
498
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:08:00 -
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The only bpo s i hadnt bought are the scramblrr pistol and smg ones so i might exchange some ars for those 2 |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:13:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:just curious with trading maybe coming out sometime one year :P
what would u sell BPO's for?
i know i have 2 exiles im sure would sell pretty high but how much do u think BPO's might sell for in a player market?
I do not think that this will be ever possible - trade BPO. If you want one, you need to buy it from CCP. When Eve connect it's wallet to Dust, every merc will be rich. well i think a lot of people would buy BPO's just to sell for large amounts of isk if they don't plan on adding it they really should cause i know all that stuff will really make the market go crazy Market of isk's, not dollars . At moment when BPO will be possible to trade they isk value will rise sky-high on market while remaining in the same places on dollar market. They will start to be exclusive for Dust merc, and affordable for average EVE player. Maybe I don't know much about market, it seems to me that it would broke the game at some point. We will have open market for people that want to sell AUR BPC for ISK, and I think that this is ok because those items will not cost much(in isk). btw: I bought 1k Charge Sniper Rifle when they cost 2k - now I'm rich
how would it break the market? even if the eve guys bought all the BPO's they couldn't use them it would just be wasted money if they held them and didn't sell them back for an affordable price based on Merc earnings |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
969
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:16:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:just curious with trading maybe coming out sometime one year :P
what would u sell BPO's for?
i know i have 2 exiles im sure would sell pretty high but how much do u think BPO's might sell for in a player market?
I do not think that this will be ever possible - trade BPO. If you want one, you need to buy it from CCP. When Eve connect it's wallet to Dust, every merc will be rich. well i think a lot of people would buy BPO's just to sell for large amounts of isk if they don't plan on adding it they really should cause i know all that stuff will really make the market go crazy Market of isk's, not dollars . At moment when BPO will be possible to trade they isk value will rise sky-high on market while remaining in the same places on dollar market. They will start to be exclusive for Dust merc, and affordable for average EVE player. Maybe I don't know much about market, it seems to me that it would broke the game at some point. We will have open market for people that want to sell AUR BPC for ISK, and I think that this is ok because those items will not cost much(in isk). btw: I bought 1k Charge Sniper Rifle when they cost 2k - now I'm rich how would it break the market? even if the eve guys bought all the BPO's they couldn't use them it would just be wasted money if they held them and didn't sell them back for an affordable price based on Merc earnings
Because a reletivly normal eve player has BILLIONS of isk... and not a small number have trillions... they could crash the dust market without a thought in a straight connection |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:20:00 -
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so wed have to prevent them from buying them i guess? but i still don't get why they would buy them if they couldn't use it or sell it back for something |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2589
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:23:00 -
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BPOs probably won't be infinite anymore, but rather crafting schematics. |
BF3 Noob
BATTLEFIELD FRIENDS
7
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:27:00 -
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Regardless of the ISK price, CCP stands to gain a lot of money from BPO trade. Some will buy them for easy ISK (tank pilots with deep real money pockets anyone?) and some will buy them just to give to friends. Either way you'll have people buying Aurum items for other than personal use. |
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
969
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:28:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:so wed have to prevent them from buying them i guess? but i still don't get why they would buy them if they couldn't use it or sell it back for something
Because they could...lol, and if you connect the 2 markets there isnt a lot you could do to stop them lol. without some serious restrictions anyway |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:52:00 -
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I doubt they'll ever allow trading of BPOs -- I wouldn't if I were them.
...but if they do my guess is most will be dirt cheap since supply will be much higher than demand.
There could be some exceptions, collectors might pay a lot for anything there's only a limited number of -- i.e. not available for AUR and never distributed through merc packs. |
Psychotic Shooter
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
122
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:58:00 -
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we should be able to sell bpo back to ccp as they still have the money they dont lose anything |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.08.01 16:01:00 -
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Psychotic Shooter wrote:we should be able to sell bpo back to ccp as they still have the money they dont lose anything Uhm, yes they do. If you can pay for your boosters by selling back BPOs you won't buy more AUR for that purpose => they lose a sale. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
475
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Posted - 2013.08.01 16:08:00 -
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AFAIK CCP hasn't confirmed BPOs will be tradeable at all, although i figure they will be. The isk price will be set by the market and form a way to turn real money into isk the way PLEX works now, plus people will be more open to collecting as they can spend their isk to build a collection instead of money. It would be good for CCP because I think more people will buy them (rather than less).
On the other hand, I cannot imagine anyone buying a militia weapon BPO for stuff that's a very quick unlock, like ARs and sidearms and such. I think I stopped using the militia AR on day 2 and never used it again, the thought of people selling militia BPOs (particularly for the weapons i mentioned) for millions of isk sounds silly.
Psychotic Shooter wrote:we should be able to sell bpo back to ccp as they still have the money they dont lose anything
lol good luck with that. |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.08.01 16:13:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:I doubt they'll ever allow trading of BPOs -- I wouldn't if I were them.
...but if they do my guess is most will be dirt cheap since supply will be much higher than demand.
There could be some exceptions, collectors might pay a lot for anything there's only a limited number of -- i.e. not available for AUR and never distributed through merc packs.
im sure everyone would buy up BPO's for all the militia stuff, MAG suits, skinweaves etc.
ik im very very interested in buying them and when it comes out ill be broke from all the excessive spending to save a few hundred isk :P |
Remm Duchax
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
90
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Posted - 2013.08.01 17:06:00 -
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Everything will be decided by demand and supply in the end. I see BPO's having a slightly higher price than other items and I think the 'PLEX' in Dust514 will become the boosters which will probably have quite a stable price and will maybe determine the prices on other Aurum items. |
Remm Duchax
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
90
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Posted - 2013.08.01 17:08:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:I doubt they'll ever allow trading of BPOs -- I wouldn't if I were them.
...but if they do my guess is most will be dirt cheap since supply will be much higher than demand.
There could be some exceptions, collectors might pay a lot for anything there's only a limited number of -- i.e. not available for AUR and never distributed through merc packs.
You must know that BPO's at the moment can only be accesed by buying from CCP so every bought BPO on the market will indirectly have already been paid in raw dollars to CCP. No fuzz for CCP. Look at EVE Online's PLEX system and you'll understand. |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:12:00 -
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Remm Duchax wrote:You must know that BPO's at the moment can only be accesed by buying from CCP so every bought BPO on the market will indirectly have already been paid in raw dollars to CCP. No fuzz for CCP. Look at EVE Online's PLEX system and you'll understand. You forget that PLEX are consumables and should be compared to other consumables. No doubt boosters will fill that function (I've always considered them more or less the same as monthly subs of other games).
If BPOs are readily available for ISK there's not really any reason to hang on to ones you're not using (since you can always buy a new one for ISK should you want it). Once there are enough of them in circulation there will be no reason for new buyers to get them with AUR. Some people may still buy them to sell, but that merely adds to the supply driving prices down which makes buying them with ISK even more attractive. If BPOs can't be traded every single character that wants to use one even once will have to spend AUR, less people may use BPOs but more AUR will be spent.
...at least that's the way I see it and why I believe they won't allow trading permanent items, I could be wrong tho ;).
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1413
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:16:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:I doubt they'll ever allow trading of BPOs -- I wouldn't if I were them.
...but if they do my guess is most will be dirt cheap since supply will be much higher than demand.
There could be some exceptions, collectors might pay a lot for anything there's only a limited number of -- i.e. not available for AUR and never distributed through merc packs.
They almost certainly will allow it. Also, they won't be dirt cheap for long. Anyway, the player market will change pretty much all of the economics of Dust, so I won't go putting too much effort into speculation yet. Way too much will change by then.
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EternalRMG
ZionTCD
509
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:24:00 -
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I need the black something scout suit and ill exchange a toxin SMG and a Dragonfly Scout for a Toxin AR and a Dragonfly assault
Ill be like a collector, i have most Closed beta items so it wont be a problem, i just lack some thingys As i have lots of bpos i can easily make money to buy them
IF YOU HAVE ANY RARE UNIQUE ITEM/ PACKS ITEMS RESERVE THEM FOR ME |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6869
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:31:00 -
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About 100 x -250 x over produced item price give or take.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1053
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:38:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Anything that can't be bought would probably be bought for a bunch more isk.
I think the toxic SMG sells for around 13000 AUR so that's like 6 or 7 bucks US...so I guess if we went by isk to aur...a 100 aur item cost 50k isk...its like 6 or 7 million isk...
Will the weapon sell for that much? No idea. Its all about the player market.
The problem with converting Aurum to isk is the disparity between the different tiers. A standard and proto aurum weapon might differ by 300%, while the isk equivalents differ by 3000%. There is also the issue of Eve's precendent in setting a real-world price for isk. Which is naturally miniscule in comparison to Dust's. If there was ever an effort to merge the economies, the result would likely be an economically game breaking inflation, because $15 spent on Eve would be worth so much more in isk than the same amount spent on Dust. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion
177
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:10:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:I doubt they'll ever allow trading of BPOs -- I wouldn't if I were them.
They'd damn well better allow trading BPO's. It wouldn't be a proper EVE universe game if we couldn't. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
365
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:17:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:just curious with trading maybe coming out sometime one year :P
what would u sell BPO's for?
i know i have 2 exiles im sure would sell pretty high but how much do u think BPO's might sell for in a player market?
I do not think that this will be ever possible - trade BPO. If you want one, you need to buy it from CCP. When Eve connect it's wallet to Dust, every merc will be rich.
You don't understand how the market works. If everyone's has one now there will be a lower demand and they won't sell for that much.
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DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1753
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:19:00 -
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BF3 Noob wrote:Regardless of the ISK price, CCP stands to gain a lot of money from BPO trade. Some will buy them for easy ISK (tank pilots with deep real money pockets anyone?) and some will buy them just to give to friends. Either way you'll have people buying Aurum items for other than personal use. Your right. Whether one guy sells them to.people or everyone buys there own, they will still be bought from CUP.
You have a future in Economics sir, |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:55:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:Marc Rime wrote:I doubt they'll ever allow trading of BPOs -- I wouldn't if I were them.
They'd damn well better allow trading BPO's. It wouldn't be a proper EVE universe game if we couldn't. True, but infinite-supply items aren't very EVE universe in the first place. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
786
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:03:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:Winsaucerer wrote:Marc Rime wrote:I doubt they'll ever allow trading of BPOs -- I wouldn't if I were them.
They'd damn well better allow trading BPO's. It wouldn't be a proper EVE universe game if we couldn't. True, but infinite-supply items aren't very EVE universe in the first place.
BPO is an infinite use item in Eve, as long as your not dumb enough to go carrying it around all over the place.. it sits there producing copies making tons of isk for years. If there was ever industry eve side for producing gear , and they could produce copies off these bpo and then build from those copies 1 time use special suits... they would sell for lot's of isk ( the bpo ) |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
786
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:06:00 -
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And if I was going to sell any of my BPO , I wouldn't let a single one go for less than 50 mil , some nore less than 100 mil
And suits you can no longer buy or were rewards from a 1 time event or tournament.. you don't even want to know my price tag
If I can theoretically right now, sell a salvaged gun for 2 mil isk.. I am putting some serious mark up on what I paid for |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona Top Men.
546
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:11:00 -
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Who would buy Exile AR for lots of ISK? New players. Who doesn't have lots of ISK? New players.
There's a problem IMO. |
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Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:19:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:BPO is an infinite use item in Eve, as long as your not dumb enough to go carrying it around all over the place.. it sits there producing copies making tons of isk for years. If there was ever industry eve side for producing gear , and they could produce copies off these bpo and then build from those copies 1 time use special suits... they would sell for lot's of isk ( the bpo ) Sure, in EVE you can churn out a pile of copies if you have the BPO, but you still need minerals to build something the item in question. Hardly the same as an infinite supply of ready-to-use items. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
383
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:54:00 -
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i will buy a Toxin/Sindycate SMG bpo for isk, when open market will be avaiable, so if someone want to sell me he can contact me and we will start the negotiations :D |
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