did it got a bit worse? or is it just me?

It's not just you, some poor guy couldn't hit me with his SMG from 10m and I was barely strafing. He was wearing proto so I figured he had to have a t least a little skill.

I noticed this quite strongly, but my theory is this: More people actually play to try the update, meaning less AFK / inactive players, the game can't handle it, framerate goes down, and the result is all kinds of aiming issues and choppy movement.

I hope it's not this, because this would indicate that the game really can't handle 32 players, which surely would be bad news for PC? But from what I can tell so far, it matches the evidence.

I would be very curious to hear from regular PC players, if framerate is generally smooth (especially during intense battles on the larger maps, i.e. anything but Manus Peak or Line Harvest).

I'm ripping apart my isp's help chat right now, they swear my modem is operating in above optimal ranges and they have increased the speeds (I had 18down and 2 up, now I have 25down and 5up)

local east coast USA ping is 9, texas is 22, cali is 48 and london is 80 japan is still 110 -130 ping wise

it won't help, something is way off, normally a fresh install corrects it, but I am tired of having to re-install weekly in order to fix this problem, my other games are running just fine.

I saw a guy do the matrix move to avoid my glu fire and a fat suit tried to let me kill him but my bullets just missed point blank and it just got worse from there.

Italy gives me a ping of 140 to 160.... I'll be avoiding you guys

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1127189#post1127189

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/cleaning-up-the-static-performance-improvements-in-uprising-1.3/

They say they finally found the problem to frame rate in PC battles and "Fixed" it.... on the first try - based on ccp's track record I highly doubt it.

He was wearing proto so I figured he had to have a t least a little skill.

I saw a guy do the matrix move to avoid my glu fire and a fat suit tried to let me kill him but my bullets just missed point blank and it just got worse from there.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/fine-tuning-aiming-and-controls

Why do I think that they put something in to 1.3 to make 1.4's changes to the aiming work, but since this is not 1.4 yet it is interfering with what was working for 1.2.

Say something like china put it in but iceland doesn't know about it.

About to re-install dust, if the hit detection is still FUBAR, i'll wait to see what the ps4 can do with this game.....sept 17th's last hurrah of ps3 games won't come fast enough.

Sniper hit detection seems better, but the frame rate in cqc is worse.

I'm glad I.live on the East Coast ^_^

Try having one eye open and one close

It's not just you, some poor guy couldn't hit me with his SMG from 10m and I was barely strafing. He was wearing proto so I figured he had to have a t least a little skill.

After reading this I went off and checked the ping time stats and weGÇÖre not seeing any significant difference between 1.2 and 1.3. If anything it actually looks a little better.

We have found some bugs with the hit detection (they were present in 1.2 as well so it shouldnGÇÖt be any worse) and are currently working on fixes for them.

We are also evaluating some other changes to the hit detection system to improve it.

yeah that's right too...people's strafe looks faster too....damn maybe i just should stop with these benzodiazepines

I'll admit it it's technically "better" because you actually have to hit a part of the body, when instead shortly before i could hit someone strafing even if not exactly on target. Anyway that's a great news! thank you for your hard work on aiming and hit detection! you're now my favorite dev/gm (second only to the mighty GM Unicorn).

After reading this I went off and checked the ping time stats and weGÇÖre not seeing any significant difference between 1.2 and 1.3. If anything it actually looks a little better.

We have found some bugs with the hit detection (they were present in 1.2 as well so it shouldnGÇÖt be any worse) and are currently working on fixes for them.

We are also evaluating some other changes to the hit detection system to improve it.

Oh sorry for double post, could you hint how hit detection is going to change? I mean, Is there a remote possibility to have hit detection calculated client-side on our ps3s instead of server-side?

Could you change the aiming back to chromosome?

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1079159#post1079159

I encourage you to see some of the hit-box issues that we've discovered in-game, particularly the test videos provided on Page 4 - Post #61

Oh sorry for double post, could you hint how hit detection is going to change? I mean, Is there a remote possibility to have hit detection calculated client-side on our ps3s instead of server-side?

The differences in chromosome were that the pad had a higher pitch and yaw speed which meant that fine aiming was actually quite poor with a pad since smaller inputs resulted in larger movements. This issue was compensated for by the aim assist systems, magnetism and adhesion. That didnGÇÖt make the actual settings good, it just meant they were less of a problem. The thing is, those aim assist systems also caused some targeting issues related to firing angle and target movement. In these situations the assists actually made it harder to aim. Because of this we disabled them and have now completely overhauled them, they will be back in 1.4.

Without the assists (and because it simply wasnGÇÖt good) we needed to retune the aim on pad to make it less twitchy. This was not a perfect solution but my hope is that with the new updates weGÇÖll be back on track. Your feedback will continue to be an important part of that and weGÇÖll keep working to improve things.

I also suspect there is a bit of a rose tinted glasses situation going on here regarding chromosome

We think we've isolated the bug and are looking at it atm.

The differences in chromosome were that the pad had a higher pitch and yaw speed which meant that fine aiming was actually quite poor with a pad since smaller inputs resulted in larger movements. This issue was compensated for by the aim assist systems, magnetism and adhesion. That didnGÇÖt make the actual settings good, it just meant they were less of a problem. The thing is, those aim assist systems also caused some targeting issues related to firing angle and target movement. In these situations the assists actually made it harder to aim. Because of this we disabled them and have now completely overhauled them, they will be back in 1.4.

Without the assists (and because it simply wasnGÇÖt good) we needed to retune the aim on pad to make it less twitchy. This was not a perfect solution but my hope is that with the new updates weGÇÖll be back on track. Your feedback will continue to be an important part of that and weGÇÖll keep working to improve things.

I also suspect there is a bit of a rose tinted glasses situation going on here regarding chromosome

The differences in chromosome were that the pad had a higher pitch and yaw speed which meant that fine aiming was actually quite poor with a pad since smaller inputs resulted in larger movements. This issue was compensated for by the aim assist systems, magnetism and adhesion. That didnGÇÖt make the actual settings good, it just meant they were less of a problem. The thing is, those aim assist systems also caused some targeting issues related to firing angle and target movement. In these situations the assists actually made it harder to aim. Because of this we disabled them and have now completely overhauled them, they will be back in 1.4.

Without the assists (and because it simply wasnGÇÖt good) we needed to retune the aim on pad to make it less twitchy. This was not a perfect solution but my hope is that with the new updates weGÇÖll be back on track. Your feedback will continue to be an important part of that and weGÇÖll keep working to improve things.

I also suspect there is a bit of a rose tinted glasses situation going on here regarding chromosome

In the short term we are fixing bugs/problems with it as we identify them. We'll monitor the impact they have. We are considering larger changes in the long term but that is something we would need to be pretty careful with so we're not going to rush in to anything.

Could you change the aiming back to chromosome?

This ^^^^

Easy fix. , but it seems that even though chromozone was the players favorite build, it most certainly seems that ccp was not a fan of it.

The differences in chromosome were that the pad had a higher pitch and yaw speed which meant that fine aiming was actually quite poor with a pad since smaller inputs resulted in larger movements. This issue was compensated for by the aim assist systems, magnetism and adhesion. That didnGÇÖt make the actual settings good, it just meant they were less of a problem. The thing is, those aim assist systems also caused some targeting issues related to firing angle and target movement. In these situations the assists actually made it harder to aim. Because of this we disabled them and have now completely overhauled them, they will be back in 1.4.

Without the assists (and because it simply wasnGÇÖt good) we needed to retune the aim on pad to make it less twitchy. This was not a perfect solution but my hope is that with the new updates weGÇÖll be back on track. Your feedback will continue to be an important part of that and weGÇÖll keep working to improve things.

I also suspect there is a bit of a rose tinted glasses situation going on here regarding chromosome