Most likely this leaves things open for when stuff will get added, but it is pretty stupid right now.

I think you could do a lot with the worthless skills that could act as a placeholder:

DSuit command-Lvl 4 7% reduction in dropsuit price, Lvl 5 15% reduction in DSuit price (just the suits themselves)

DSuit Upgrade-Lvl 5 10% reduction in Isk price for mods.

Vehicle Command-Lvl 5 10% reduction in vehicle hull price. Other more specific skills could convey the same to mods (hopefully not cumulative to the same thing ie like several skills for cheaper tank hulls). I think vehicle users would rejoice.

If they have a passive bonus for each level (like turrets as you mention) then a smaller isk % reduction past anything unlocked. Maybe like 3% for lvl 4 and 6% for lvl 5.

This would make these skills less worthless but still leaving them open for additions and doesn't require new passives that could imbalance the game.

Plus it opens up a business role where one could buy from market and then sell for slight profit once we get player trading.

skills that reuce amrket rpices for things would be stupid, especially since CCP has stated that their endgame goal for DUST is to be like EVE, in that a majority fo equipment can and will come from other players who made it.

I will just repeat the above, those are all placeholders.

Dropsuit Control levels 4 and 5 are most propably reserved for MTACs.

We've all been there. You look at a skill that certainly "sounds impressive", but on closer examination you find its load of benefits is shot well before the end of the line.

Most of us have already skilled into one such skill:

Dropsuit Command: Medium at 1, Light at 2, and Heavy at 3. You're covered with the skill's load of benefits at rank 3. The skill confers no passives (unlike in chromosome), and there's no point in leveling it past 3. Perhaps this just gives you an lower cost means of access suit types though (it is a 1x skill). This isn't the case for all skills though, and there's no reason they couldn't give the skill some sort of passive benefit.


Dropsuit Upgrades is similar... it unlocks no gear though, only other skills. At rank 4, it's unlocked every possible skill, and you get no passive for leveling it either.

Vehicle users get a much heavier dose of this:

Vehicle Command: This unlocks vehicles, but don't be looking for any continued pleasure or benefits past rank 3... everything will be unlocked any the skill will do nothing for you.

This is continued by pretty much every vehicle skill... nothing to unlock at later levels, and no passive bonuses from the skill. Caldari/Gallente dropships? You unlock the only one at rank 1 of the skill... you unlock the next skill at rank 3... there is no passive, and no other unlocks. The skills are immensely unsatifying.

Only when you get to "specialist" classes of vehicles does this change. An assault dropship grants a passive with each rank, but only has the one ship which is unlocked at rank 1.

Why is there such a complicated tree of skills which unlock single vehicles, then branch at the halfway point to skills which also unlock single vehicles?

How about Vehicle Upgrades? No passive, and it's load of benefits dribbles out at rank TWO!!! TWO!

How about Vehicle Maneuvering ? It has no passive benefit, and you've unlocked everything at rank 3.

This is also common for vehicle modules. Of the various modules, only Armor Adaptation, Engineering, and Turret Upgrades (with a limited set) have any unlocks past rank 3. Most of the skills confer passives, but most of the passives are just fitting bonuses on the items you're done unlocking at rank 3.

Very unsatisfying. What gives?

you left out the benefits of having those skills, as if they have none... which is wrong.

also... is test still around? lol