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Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:19:00 -
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We've all been there. You look at a skill that certainly "sounds impressive", but on closer examination you find its load of benefits is shot well before the end of the line.
Most of us have already skilled into one such skill:
Dropsuit Command: Medium at 1, Light at 2, and Heavy at 3. You're covered with the skill's load of benefits at rank 3. The skill confers no passives (unlike in chromosome), and there's no point in leveling it past 3. Perhaps this just gives you an lower cost means of access suit types though (it is a 1x skill). This isn't the case for all skills though, and there's no reason they couldn't give the skill some sort of passive benefit.
Dropsuit Upgrades is similar... it unlocks no gear though, only other skills. At rank 4, it's unlocked every possible skill, and you get no passive for leveling it either.
Vehicle users get a much heavier dose of this:
Vehicle Command: This unlocks vehicles, but don't be looking for any continued pleasure or benefits past rank 3... everything will be unlocked any the skill will do nothing for you.
This is continued by pretty much every vehicle skill... nothing to unlock at later levels, and no passive bonuses from the skill. Caldari/Gallente dropships? You unlock the only one at rank 1 of the skill... you unlock the next skill at rank 3... there is no passive, and no other unlocks. The skills are immensely unsatifying.
Only when you get to "specialist" classes of vehicles does this change. An assault dropship grants a passive with each rank, but only has the one ship which is unlocked at rank 1.
Why is there such a complicated tree of skills which unlock single vehicles, then branch at the halfway point to skills which also unlock single vehicles?
How about Vehicle Upgrades? No passive, and it's load of benefits dribbles out at rank TWO!!! TWO!
How about Vehicle Maneuvering ? It has no passive benefit, and you've unlocked everything at rank 3.
This is also common for vehicle modules. Of the various modules, only Armor Adaptation, Engineering, and Turret Upgrades (with a limited set) have any unlocks past rank 3. Most of the skills confer passives, but most of the passives are just fitting bonuses on the items you're done unlocking at rank 3.
Very unsatisfying. What gives? |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.31 22:40:00 -
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They both need addressing.
The secondary weapon skill thing is about completely worthless skills though. The skills have no unlocks, just passives, and the passives are frequently worthless for the cost. They said they were looking at that, and we got... Flaylock-only updates. Woo?
The half-done skills referenced in this OP are slightly different... it's more of a puzzling decision. You can still unlock vehicles, or whatever... it's just baffling that it's made so complex and the skills are frequently only half-populated.
Vehicle Maneuvering for example... why would you skill it past 3? There is no passive, and there is no item past 3. Why does it matter? Well, they could've reduced the multiplier on the skill and put spread out the items across 1 - 5. That would still make the skill silly for its lack of passive... but you wouldn't have a 5x skill (or whatever it is) that's pointless beyond 3. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:21:00 -
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I'd prefer passives that improve player performance - fitting, stats, etc. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:35:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:I will just repeat the above, those are all placeholders.
Dropsuit Control levels 4 and 5 are most propably reserved for MTACs.
Even if that is the case, there's no reason not to put passive bonuses on the various kills in the meantime.
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Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.08.02 02:01:00 -
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low genius wrote:
you left out the benefits of having those skills, as if they have none... which is wrong.
also... is test still around? lol
I explicitly tell you what the benefits are actually, and check the first line:
"its load of benefits is shot well before the end of the line" - this is where I'm suggesting that there aren't benefits to later levels of the skills.
You see, in English we have these things called "words" that we put together into sentences to express ideas. We can use multiple sentences to express more complex notions.
I'll let this one slide, as literacy clearly isn't your thing. If you can't finish the first sentence, then discourse involving a brain doesn't suit you. Have your social worker wheel you into your next jello meal after they're done reading this to you. |
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