When will WE the PLAYERS get to vote on those who REPRESENT us in Dust 514? Will it be at the same time as the next CSM elections? Will any current CPM run for it? Is there any here who feel our CPM are lacking at times , and misrepresent what we want and do not truly listen to what we say?

Who will be running, is there any here who feel they could do a better job at communicating to ccp and the dust community about making the games future more enjoyable to all?

This is serious.. because lately I feel some in the CPM are not direct representitivies.. some even abusing the power and knowledge to further personal agendas ( won't say who, why , and not asking for anyone to delve deeper into that )

thanks

The flaylock got nerfed and the AR still kicks ass... I'm feeling pretty well represented over here.

Until the CPM and CP figure out how to formalize a relationship that helps them listen to the community, elections wont matter. The business process is what this one is about.

They are all monkeys on a CCP string.

Working as intended.

None of them even play this game anymore anyway so..............meh who cares really.

the CSM seems to be running, what process is really different other than the game itself? It has been in act for YEARS

Eve has a separate studio - Dust514 is created by different devs, mostly based in the Shanghai studio. Read some of Hans' CPM reports for information on the difficulties that they face in setting up the CPM because you clearly are lacking in actual knowledge on the situation.

whatever bro, I don't need to read that to know that I nor anyone here voted for them. Or to know that it is not working, and that half talk down to anything that is not their own and some do not even play the game.

So, back to what I originally asked. WHEN will we actually be able to VOTE on our representatives?

If you refuse to look into what the CPM is actually doing, you have no right to complain about what they are or are not doing.

k thx

So you would rather have representation without power than a process that could lead to power and the promise of possible representation?

Just because you vote for someone doesn't mean that they WILL do what you want, CAN do what you want, or even CARE what you want...

Seriously people...the cynical institutional hatred and blindness toward process is so strong with you all.

[...]Note: And yeah i do realize that all the EvE players in the CPM claiming that Dust players are not mature enough is a non sequitur.

Judging by the OPs behavior in this thread i'd say it's a demonstrable fact.

I used "non sequitur" for a reason. Maturity level really does not matter when the current EvE playing CPM are drooling imbeciles.

It does matter when remarks like "drooling imbeciles" are the direct result of this immaturity - when it in fact "does follow" if you will.

Say what you want, I talk with these guys on IRC all the time, minus Jenza who seems to have disappeared into the ether, and from what it sounds like they are doing a good job, and CCP learned a lot of things from them.

Oh and if I ever run for the CPM, do not vote for me. /reversepsychologylol

must be hard to look for threads on some issues, take the ideas presented, and pass it off as their own

must be hard to look for threads on some issues, take the ideas presented, and pass it off as their own

This is more stuff like setting up better communication between CCP and the community.
Or making sure another "Uprising" won't happen.
From what I hear, it's improving, but they have to fight to get what they want, exactly like the CSM had to with EVE.