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hooc order
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:51:00 -
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The player base needs to mature....
and by mature i mean the 8 people who actually support the current CPM need to make enough alt accounts so they can stuff the ballot boxes with multiple votes. Signing up for 2000 gmail accounts and then using those accounts for PSN accounts takes time.
Note: And yeah i do realize that all the EvE players in the CPM claiming that Dust players are not mature enough is a non sequitur. |
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:02:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:hooc order wrote:[...]Note: And yeah i do realize that all the EvE players in the CPM claiming that Dust players are not mature enough is a non sequitur. Judging by the OPs behavior in this thread i'd say it's a demonstrable fact. 
I used "non sequitur" for a reason. Maturity level really does not matter when the current EvE playing CPM are drooling imbeciles. |
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:17:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:hooc order wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:hooc order wrote:[...]Note: And yeah i do realize that all the EvE players in the CPM claiming that Dust players are not mature enough is a non sequitur. Judging by the OPs behavior in this thread i'd say it's a demonstrable fact. I used "non sequitur" for a reason. Maturity level really does not matter when the current EvE playing CPM are drooling imbeciles. It does matter when remarks like "drooling imbeciles" are the direct result of this immaturity - when it in fact "does follow" if you will.
The CPM wants to nerf Nova knives. Calling them drooling imbeciles is not a reflection of my maturity level but a statement of fact.
Note: there are a hundred other examples proving their lack of basic intelligence. Nova knife nerf is just one of them. |
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:35:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Say what you want, I talk with these guys on IRC all the time, minus Jenza who seems to have disappeared into the ether, and from what it sounds like they are doing a good job, and CCP learned a lot of things from them.
Oh and if I ever run for the CPM, do not vote for me. /reversepsychologylol must be hard to look for threads on some issues, take the ideas presented, and pass it off as their own 
I take issue with the whole concept of "good ideas". If this game is so chalk full of good ideas then why is there so much dissatisfaction with it.
Results have no consequences in the current unelected CPM....exposing their positions to a popular vote would force them to become results oriented rather then praised for undocumented "good ideas".
Ditto for setting up what ever it is they are supposed to set up. In what way are these idiots motivated to finish anything. Let alone if they finish setting it up their reward is being exposed to elections. |
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:42:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Say what you want, I talk with these guys on IRC all the time, minus Jenza who seems to have disappeared into the ether, and from what it sounds like they are doing a good job, and CCP learned a lot of things from them.
Oh and if I ever run for the CPM, do not vote for me. /reversepsychologylol must be hard to look for threads on some issues, take the ideas presented, and pass it off as their own This is more stuff like setting up better communication between CCP and the community. Or making sure another "Uprising" won't happen. From what I hear, it's improving, but they have to fight to get what they want, exactly like the CSM had to with EVE. Honestly about that "another uprising wont happen" bit ... wasnt that the POINT OF THE WHOLE CLOSED BETA? lol. Like everytime a new patch comes out its some shocking thing that something is broken.. are people not using to this yet? Thats expected the shittty part is when it takes another 2-3months to fix that last patch. Wasnt that the whole point of hotfixes? lol. Tired of hearing excuses but hey CCP needs more yesmen in their coroner dont got enough.
Quote:Thats expected the shittty part is when it takes another 2-3months to fix that last patch
The invisibility bug was not fixed in 1.3 and 1.4 looks like no fix will be forth coming either....should also point out that most of the people caught using the bug have been in alliances and corps with CPM members in them.
CPM has done nothing about this game breaking bug (in fact giving excuses for people using the exploit) and there is strong evidence that they are encouraging the exploit among their friends. |
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:47:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:Theres is currently no one worthy of being on the CPM
If no one is fit to govern themselves then no one is fit to govern.
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Elections have nothing to do with a candidate's worth (or a potential pool of candidates) they are about forcing those in power to do the right thing.
The current CPM has proven itself unworthy....and the reason why is they have no intensive to be worthy.
Put an election over their head and the incentives become crystal clear. |
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:58:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:hooc order wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Say what you want, I talk with these guys on IRC all the time, minus Jenza who seems to have disappeared into the ether, and from what it sounds like they are doing a good job, and CCP learned a lot of things from them.
Oh and if I ever run for the CPM, do not vote for me. /reversepsychologylol must be hard to look for threads on some issues, take the ideas presented, and pass it off as their own I take issue with the whole concept of "good ideas". If this game is so chalk full of good ideas then why is there so much dissatisfaction with it. Results have no consequences in the current unelected CPM....exposing their positions to a popular vote would force them to become results oriented rather then praised for undocumented "good ideas". Ditto for setting up what ever it is they are supposed to set up. In what way are these idiots motivated to finish anything. Let alone if they finish setting it up their reward is being exposed to elections. Imagine driving a car. Only you have to make the road yourself before you can drive that car. That's CPM 0 in a nutshell, they have to set it all up for CPM 1.
That is not true. The current CPM has made the excuse to work on setting it up because people not being mature enough.
If that was the case then why haven't they finished setting it up then called for a delay of elections?
They have not done this. Instead they debate weather there should be elections at all.
Seriously they have pulled every scum bag tyrant trick in the book to prevent any kind of responsibility to players/voters. |
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Posted - 2013.07.31 22:19:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
It is because they want to finish their work before they pass it on.
Elections will happen eventually, they just want to setup the road and it seems like a year won't be enough.
No it is because they do not want to be accountable for the results of their failed work. They did not finish their job in a reasonable time period. If we are not ready for CPM1 then fine...lets have elections for CPM0 v2.
The CPM needs to accountable or they will never get it done. CPM0 has proven it. |
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Posted - 2013.07.31 22:33:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:hooc order wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
It is because they want to finish their work before they pass it on.
Elections will happen eventually, they just want to setup the road and it seems like a year won't be enough.
No it is because they do not want to be accountable for the results of their failed work. They did not finish their job in a reasonable time period. If we are not ready for CPM1 then fine...lets have elections for CPM0 v2. The CPM needs to accountable or they will never get it done. CPM0 has proven it. Considering their input got CCP to restructure and start monthly releases.... Also, they had 4 months out of 12. Give em a chance.
Quote:Also, they had 4 months out of 12.
So first you tell us it is a year now it is 4 months. What happens if i say 4 months is long enough? do you tell me it was only 3 months then?
Nice goal post moving....you even set it up beforehand....and when i didn't take the bait (i never mentioned that a year was long enough.....that was all you...i said "reasonable time period") you brought it up again as if it was me making the claim.
Anyway i am beginning to think you are a CPM member....not because you defend them but because you use the same dishonest debating tactics as they do. |
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