I need it cus I'm a logi and I have no sidearm.
When the race weapons come in then I'll change

It is a lot harder to use militia ar even with prof3 and 2 complex damage mods, right now as long as you have 25% accuracy you can down a fair number of suits, this combined with lack of recoil and perfect laser beam stream of bullets makes this gun easy to use. 45 rd mag would definitely make this more of a skilled weapon.
+1

It is a lot harder to use militia ar even with prof3 and 2 complex damage mods, right now as long as you have 25% accuracy you can down a fair number of suits, this combined with lack of recoil and perfect laser beam stream of bullets makes this gun easy to use. 45 rd mag would definitely make this more of a skilled weapon.
+1

All I hear AR players talking about is that their weapon requires aim and skill. If your aim is so good, why not cut the clip size down to 45? Crutch much?

My aim is very bad and that's why I need 60 bullet clip.
I'd use Balac's all the time because they have 72, but I only got so few of them. :(

48 in the Militia, and it really doesn't make a difference.
Reloads are so fast on ARs, that a 30 shot clip probably wouldn't bother me.

I have a better idea.. replace the bullets with paintball rounds.. then the AR will finally be a "Decoration" weapon... you know what, i don't care.. i starting to enjoy the Sniper Rifle allot.... Nerf away.

Use Kirin .... more bullets.. or HMG slighty more bullets (per mag)... or take at last any turret (no mag).


To OP
Sure for Academy you can use one mag for 3 kill (without reload). But when you 'dance' with someone 1.5-2 mag is sometimes not enough.
For heavy you need about 50-55 bulets.
For logi-assault 65 is ok.

My perfect number 62 ;)

Lmao, nerf the core gaylock and Everyone starts QQ the AR. Well boys get over it its the flag ship of any FPS. And the the skill lies in the user. Whereas your flaylock/forge/md/contact grenade did not take anything but a horseshoe toss. Stop winning and ask for content NOT NERFS!

It is a lot harder to use militia ar even with prof3 and 2 complex damage mods, right now as long as you have 25% accuracy you can down a fair number of suits, this combined with lack of recoil and perfect laser beam stream of bullets makes this gun easy to use. 45 rd mag would definitely make this more of a skilled weapon.
+1

This
Ars are easy mode no skill required. Part of the problem with dust to many players don't want to lose their kd crutch.

All I hear AR players talking about is that their weapon requires aim and skill. If your aim is so good, why not cut the clip size down to 45? Crutch much?

#13 Posted: 2013.07.31 10:02 |

I was being generous with 45, but 30 seems about right too with AR users 1337 gun game skills. Since you aim is so good, you can to it with aim assist for an extra challenge.

All I hear AR players talking about is that their weapon requires aim and skill. If your aim is so good, why not cut the clip size down to 45? Crutch much?

#13 Posted: 2013.07.31 10:02 |

I was being generous with 45, but 30 seems about right too with AR users 1337 gun game skills. Since your aim is so good, you can do it with aim assist for an extra challenge.

Seriously? I like, just went over this in the Mass Driver thread.

People Miss.

Cosgar be trollin'

See.

All you have to do is mention that ARs aren't perfectly balanced and people start calling you a troll.

inb4 you must be scrub hater AR is fine

All I hear AR players talking about is that their weapon requires aim and skill. If your aim is so good, why not cut the clip size down to 45? Crutch much?

#13 Posted: 2013.07.31 10:02 |

I was being generous with 45, but 30 seems about right too with AR users 1337 gun game skills. Since your aim is so good, you can do it with aim assist for an extra challenge.

Wuh? I'm a masshole....


and I read the thread this is playing off of....

>Preaches about knee-jerk reactions
>Makes one

Yeah, guess I ate it on that post.

i feel this would balance it with the scramblers; lower clip but significant accurate damage, or over heat and more ammo.

Well if AR did more damage per shot then yeah sure take the clip down to 3o or so but the gun would have to feel a lot more power than it does now..... but then that's why I like and use the Breach AR on my other toons.

Breach AR is and will be (the Rail Rifle) Bolter of New Eden.

Two facts:
Breach AR has 100 less DPS than normal AR.
Why?
Because it was once OP and it has never recovered.


Second:
The Caldari Rail Rifle will be a long range gun, which is the opposite of the Breach Rifle.

ARs need overheat or jam, not a smaller clip.

Supporting this thought, satire or not.

AR could be diffrerentiated further from HMG by reducing the clip. This way a spray and pray HMG would have more of a place, allowing constant pushing much easier than AR.

ScR would be more in line with AR; heat management vs. reload management.

Because it takes 60+ bullets to kill a heavy ? or a female Caldari ... what is wrong with the Female Caldari's ? they are harder to kill than a heavy...

well based on the flaylock crutch nerf, I believe guns aren't supposed to kill people without a reload, ar's should require you to reload against a heavy.

All I hear AR players talking about is that their weapon requires aim and skill. If your aim is so good, why not cut the clip size down to 45? Crutch much?

#13 Posted: 2013.07.31 10:02 |

I was being generous with 45, but 30 seems about right too with AR users 1337 gun game skills. Since your aim is so good, you can do it with aim assist for an extra challenge.

ARs need overheat or jam, not a smaller clip.

/hitdetection
I can aim straight at a target, unload 30 bullets, and maybe one will hit.

Because it takes 60+ bullets to kill a heavy ? or a female Caldari ... what is wrong with the Female Caldari's ? they are harder to kill than a heavy...

Yes. .especially when half of those 60 won't register even when on target due to garbage hit detection

As Shayz said, this is push-back. There's a perception that people in the AR crowd are trying to nerf all other weapons down to the current Laser Rifle.

To be honest I don't think Cosgar is being serious. More like counter-trolling.

It's okay I still love you

i feel this would balance it with the scramblers; lower clip but significant accurate damage, or over heat and more ammo.