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Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:00:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Its an assault rifle.
...ASSAULT RIFLE
Literally THE most common infantry weapon. Complaining about AR spam in DUST, you might as well complain about AR in every armed force in the world.
It's just not fair I tell you, nearly every US soldier being equipped with an M4!
The army should nerf the M4 so it shoots rainbows, and force soldiers to use other more ridiculous weapons.
I can't even believe people complain about spam, from what is SUPPOSED to be the most common weapon on the field.
Let me make some clarifying statements.
What he says is absolutely true. The point of every other weapon system is to support the rifleman. Modern militaries wouldn't equip everyone with LMGs or HMGs if they could, because they're all support weaponry. The idea behind them is to suppress the enemy (keep their heads down so they can't shoot back) while the AR people maneuver to destroy them. Grenade launchers are made to deny the enemy an advantageous firing position, artillery is to destroy vehicles or infantry in the open, air support is to provide a unique vantage point to cover the movements of the infantry. Every single job in the military is either being in the infantry, or being in support of it.
ARs are imbalanced currently, and weapons as a whole need a looking at, but the AR should be the most used weapon on the battlefield. All other systems, and I mean ALL of them, should be in support of them. Mass drivers provide foot-mobile area denial systems, snipers provide a different vantage point to engage entrenched enemies, tanks provide anti-vehicle and anti-infantry support, dropships provide transportation and limited air support. The other weapons should be viable in providing support, but at the end of the day, the AR should be the one completing the mission, whether its to destroy the enemy or capture the objective. That's his job, everyone else's is to make his job that much easier, or harder if you're on the opposing forces.
By no means should the AR be the end-all be-all weapon that dominates all others at everything. They shouldn't be. But all other weapons should be made to support the AR, not take it's place. |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2013.08.01 03:18:00 -
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Quote:I am happy you agree the AR is imbalanced, but I think RL combat doctrine should NEVER be applied to a fictional space game with lasers and ****.
Every gun should be fun and effective in its own way, able to get kills independent of the AR, not subordinate to just assisting it
I agree that every gun should be fun and unique in its own way. But the combat doctrine of RL hasn't changed much since we began having wars. Naturally, the weapons and tactics have changed as we have progressed, but it has always been one unit is the main effort, and the other units support them.
Romans used the legionnaires as their main effort, with the auxillia to protect their flanks from cavalry, had their own cavalry to break up the enemies formation, archers to provide ranged support, and catapults to assault fortified structures. But in the end, the infantry was the rock the other units moved themselves off of, either supporting the infantry's assault or protecting them from the enemy's assault.
To this end, each weapon should bring the flavor of the race it comes from. The plasma Launcher should be unique and perform differently from the Swarm Launcher. But there function should be the same: to destroy enemy vehicles so that the AR people can assault the objective. |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2013.08.01 03:42:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Ok, now you sound less like blasphemy.
But there are several weapons that are designed to be hard charging, objective storming CQCers. (Shotgun, HMG, Novas, SMG....) and the AR is outdoing them in their roles, with much better range, and the like.
The AR is filling its role of the Light Assault weapon, but for what it gains, it gives up very little compared to the others.
I think that it needs to either lose a little DPS, or lose a bit of range.
That, along with the buffing of the other guns.
In this, I agree with you. An AR beating a shotgun at CQC is ridiculous, and SMGs and HMGs should get a buff to make them shine in their roles. One of the big issues is that we don't have all the racial weapons and vehicles out yet. Once we have all the weapons then balancing them out will be easier, and adding in new weapons will be easier as long as each race gets their version of it. |
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