DUST Search - Which is the best AR to use?

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Smooth Assassin wrote:

Oso Peresoso wrote:

even if you don't want to use proto, getting operations to 5 to unlock the proficiency skill is kind of a must if you plan on using the AR as one of your primary light weapons. Its a big SP investment since you have to take operations to 5 then sink a few hundred thousand SP into the proficiency skill, but getting 6-12% damage bonus to all ARs forever regardless of type or suit with no CPU need, slot usage, or extra isk, is kind of amazing, and worth every SP if you use any ARs regularly at all.

In terms of choice, if you don't want to use the proto ARs, then your choices are the GEK, the GLU (adv tactical), or the standard AR. They're all excellent. Some (rare) people like the adv burst AR. The Gek is good, not too expensive, and fits comfortably on a STD dropsuit. The GLU does the same, but increases the cost by a lot. I also don't recommend the GLU unless you have a sidearm.

Again *sigh* the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR

Damage mods.

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Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:29:00 - [1] - Quote I use a standard AR, the original one. I'm not sure which is the best ADV cos the damage is nearly the same as the standard one, and i'm not going for a proto. I got about 200 SP to use and i need good tips
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 1958	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:32:00 - [2] - Quote 200 SP isn't a fraction of what you need to buy the cheapest of skills, you should try saving up before contemplating what you are going to buy.
Bulletmonkey50 Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares 2	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:32:00 - [3] - Quote GEK 13, reasonable price for good performance. of course you can also try the breach, tactical and burst variant if you'd like, they aren't necessarily bad, just different
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:33:00 - [4] - Quote Sure thing, waste my summer. Alrighty then
Bulletmonkey50 Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares 2	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:34:00 - [5] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: 200 SP isn't a fraction of what you need to buy the cheapest of skills, you should try saving up before contemplating what you are going to buy. Its always good to plan out how you want to specialize your character in a game like this. and by 200 he probably meant 200k.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:34:00 - [6] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: 200 SP isn't a fraction of what you need to buy the cheapest of skills, you should try saving up before contemplating what you are going to buy. Sure thing, waste my summer. Alrighty then
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 427	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:38:00 - [7] - Quote even if you don't want to use proto, getting operations to 5 to unlock the proficiency skill is kind of a must if you plan on using the AR as one of your primary light weapons. Its a big SP investment since you have to take operations to 5 then sink a few hundred thousand SP into the proficiency skill, but getting 6-12% damage bonus to all ARs forever regardless of type or suit with no CPU need, slot usage, or extra isk, is kind of amazing, and worth every SP if you use any ARs regularly at all. In terms of choice, if you don't want to use the proto ARs, then your choices are the GEK, the GLU (adv tactical), or the standard AR. They're all excellent. Some (rare) people like the adv burst AR. The Gek is good, not too expensive, and fits comfortably on a STD dropsuit. The GLU does the same, but increases the cost by a lot. I also don't recommend the GLU unless you have a sidearm.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:41:00 - [8] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: even if you don't want to use proto, getting operations to 5 to unlock the proficiency skill is kind of a must if you plan on using the AR as one of your primary light weapons. Its a big SP investment since you have to take operations to 5 then sink a few hundred thousand SP into the proficiency skill, but getting 6-12% damage bonus to all ARs forever regardless of type or suit with no CPU need, slot usage, or extra isk, is kind of amazing, and worth every SP if you use any ARs regularly at all. In terms of choice, if you don't want to use the proto ARs, then your choices are the GEK, the GLU (adv tactical), or the standard AR. They're all excellent. Some (rare) people like the adv burst AR. The Gek is good, not too expensive, and fits comfortably on a STD dropsuit. The GLU does the same, but increases the cost by a lot. I also don't recommend the GLU unless you have a sidearm. Again sigh the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 114	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:43:00 - [9] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: I use a standard AR, the original one. I'm not sure which is the best ADV cos the damage is nearly the same as the standard one, and i'm not going for a proto. I got about 200 SP to use and i need good tips the scrambler assault rifles is the best
P14GU3 The Southern Legion 243	Posted - 2013.07.31 02:57:00 - [10] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: even if you don't want to use proto, getting operations to 5 to unlock the proficiency skill is kind of a must if you plan on using the AR as one of your primary light weapons. Its a big SP investment since you have to take operations to 5 then sink a few hundred thousand SP into the proficiency skill, but getting 6-12% damage bonus to all ARs forever regardless of type or suit with no CPU need, slot usage, or extra isk, is kind of amazing, and worth every SP if you use any ARs regularly at all. In terms of choice, if you don't want to use the proto ARs, then your choices are the GEK, the GLU (adv tactical), or the standard AR. They're all excellent. Some (rare) people like the adv burst AR. The Gek is good, not too expensive, and fits comfortably on a STD dropsuit. The GLU does the same, but increases the cost by a lot. I also don't recommend the GLU unless you have a sidearm. Again sigh the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR With the RoF of the AR any dmg increase is amazing. The thing about the AR is you have to be able to STAY on target for all of those rounds to hit. If your finding that tough take a look at some other weapons. The plasma cannon and MD are huge support weapons and can be used for light vehicles on occasion. The shotgun and sniper rifle are also great support weapons to accommodate your more gun-savvy assault friends. The charge variant of the Scrambler rifle fits a nice in-between style of play. Not saying you have bad "gun-game," but another style may suit you better

BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 103	Posted - 2013.07.31 03:01:00 - [11] - Quote Balacs. or GTFO. Best AR in the game. u need prof lvl 3. All AR users will agree. :).
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 427	Posted - 2013.07.31 03:09:00 - [12] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Again sigh the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR Then why the hell are you making this thread? if you don't want the duvolle, and you don't want the Gek, then try out some of the ADV variants and if you don't like those use the base AR or find another weapon. Goddamn, don't ask for advice and then complain when someone takes the time to give you a thorough answer.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 1727	Posted - 2013.07.31 03:16:00 - [13] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: even if you don't want to use proto, getting operations to 5 to unlock the proficiency skill is kind of a must if you plan on using the AR as one of your primary light weapons. Its a big SP investment since you have to take operations to 5 then sink a few hundred thousand SP into the proficiency skill, but getting 6-12% damage bonus to all ARs forever regardless of type or suit with no CPU need, slot usage, or extra isk, is kind of amazing, and worth every SP if you use any ARs regularly at all. In terms of choice, if you don't want to use the proto ARs, then your choices are the GEK, the GLU (adv tactical), or the standard AR. They're all excellent. Some (rare) people like the adv burst AR. The Gek is good, not too expensive, and fits comfortably on a STD dropsuit. The GLU does the same, but increases the cost by a lot. I also don't recommend the GLU unless you have a sidearm. Again sigh the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR Damage mods.
dustwaffle Gravity Prone EoN. 259	Posted - 2013.07.31 03:20:00 - [14] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Again sigh the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR Then why the hell are you making this thread? if you don't want the duvolle, and you don't want the Gek, then try out some of the ADV variants and if you don't like those use the base AR or find another weapon. Goddamn, don't ask for advice and then complain when someone takes the time to give you a thorough answer. Some people just like sperging their brainfarts all over the place That or troll. 1/10 for getting a response
CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 184	Posted - 2013.07.31 03:21:00 - [15] - Quote Rail rifle.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.07.31 21:22:00 - [16] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Again sigh the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR Then why the hell are you making this thread? if you don't want the duvolle, and you don't want the Gek, then try out some of the ADV variants and if you don't like those use the base AR or find another weapon. Goddamn, don't ask for advice and then complain when someone takes the time to give you a thorough answer. Some people just like sperging their brainfarts all over the place That or troll. 1/10 for getting a response Maybe i want the GLU?
RA Drahcir Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 55	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:11:00 - [17] - Quote Dren
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1253	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:12:00 - [18] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: I use a standard AR, the original one. I'm not sure which is the best ADV cos the damage is nearly the same as the standard one, and i'm not going for a proto. I got about 200 SP to use and i need good tips GEK is my choice.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1253	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:13:00 - [19] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: even if you don't want to use proto, getting operations to 5 to unlock the proficiency skill is kind of a must if you plan on using the AR as one of your primary light weapons. Its a big SP investment since you have to take operations to 5 then sink a few hundred thousand SP into the proficiency skill, but getting 6-12% damage bonus to all ARs forever regardless of type or suit with no CPU need, slot usage, or extra isk, is kind of amazing, and worth every SP if you use any ARs regularly at all. In terms of choice, if you don't want to use the proto ARs, then your choices are the GEK, the GLU (adv tactical), or the standard AR. They're all excellent. Some (rare) people like the adv burst AR. The Gek is good, not too expensive, and fits comfortably on a STD dropsuit. The GLU does the same, but increases the cost by a lot. I also don't recommend the GLU unless you have a sidearm. Again sigh the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR Yes it does - think in terms of damage per second, not damage per round.
Cosgar ParagonX 3617	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:22:00 - [20] - Quote Full auto for all around usage, TAC AR for support. Breach has been nerfed to the ground (Bojo claims it's still viable) and the burst is underwhelming until proto.

Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:27:00 - [21] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: even if you don't want to use proto, getting operations to 5 to unlock the proficiency skill is kind of a must if you plan on using the AR as one of your primary light weapons. Its a big SP investment since you have to take operations to 5 then sink a few hundred thousand SP into the proficiency skill, but getting 6-12% damage bonus to all ARs forever regardless of type or suit with no CPU need, slot usage, or extra isk, is kind of amazing, and worth every SP if you use any ARs regularly at all. In terms of choice, if you don't want to use the proto ARs, then your choices are the GEK, the GLU (adv tactical), or the standard AR. They're all excellent. Some (rare) people like the adv burst AR. The Gek is good, not too expensive, and fits comfortably on a STD dropsuit. The GLU does the same, but increases the cost by a lot. I also don't recommend the GLU unless you have a sidearm. Again sigh the GEK doesn't have much damage compared to the standard AR Damage mods. I need my complex shield booster
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 439	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:32:00 - [22] - Quote GEK-38 works well enough. Proto versions aren't worth the cost, IMHO. Not saying that I won't buy them and use them.
8213 Grade No.2 56	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:39:00 - [23] - Quote Balac's AR is the best I've heard. I've never used it, but everyone who has, has told me its simply the best. The Standard AR is just as good as the GEK-38 or the Duvolle as far as fully automatic ARs go. Putting your shots on target is what counts. Build up your AR Skill Proficiency the best you can to what you need the most. (For me, its was always needing ammo). How you play, and the gear you run will determine how good your gun is. "This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My rifle, without me, it's useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will... My rifle and I know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit... My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will... Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it, until victory is New Eden'sand there is no enemy, but peace!"
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1253	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:48:00 - [24] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Balacs. or GTFO. Best AR in the game. u need prof lvl 3. All AR users will agree. :). He wants an advanced AR, not proto.
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 525	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:53:00 - [25] - Quote Just from looking at the figures the Burst doesn't become competitive until Prototype. This is because it receives a RoF boost in addition to the standard scaling of damage and range, that last jump pushing it towards out-DPSing the standard.


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