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semperfi1999 wrote:

Daxxis KANNAH wrote:

semperfi1999 wrote:

Daxxis KANNAH wrote:

Why do people that play PC and use it as a badge of honour QQ Shocked

They should be the ones living by HTFU and adapt or die but yet they make threads and pacts and whatever else to tone down weapons instead of finding ways to beat them.

Now I think the MD can be a bit scary but I am a scout and having to dodge that many shots can be an issue if there isnt much cover close but if I am in a group and can flank or if I have a bit of high ground I am fine.

I asked those jokers why a group of AR's couldnt keep their distance and defeat Flaylock users and all you heard was silence.

IF PC is so hard and you guys are so good then defeat them, dont run crying.

I love it how you guys act like regnum does not run by you and just completely roflstomp all of you with ease. Just because he can roflstomp you this doesnt mean the weapon your using is balanced. It has too much AOE for the dmg given (because AOE of 8+ meters is so balanced Roll

)...so either the dmg need to be decreased or the AOE needs to be decreased (decreased AOE would be better than dmg IMO).

Just because there are people who could roflstomp the flaylock users that doesnt mean the flaylock was balanced. Noobs need to step back and stop talking when people who actually know a thing or two about FPS balance start talking.

Yawn - here you come again.

I never claimed the Flaylock didnt need balancing and I am not sure yet if the MD needs to be balanced again.

Let me ask a question - If you turn down the AOE (damage or radius) then what is the point of the weapon?

And once again the arguments against the Flaylock werent really addressed other than taking away much of its killing power and why is that - becuase many ran into its range instead of fighting outside of it. Now you can blame that on CCP's poor render of models and lag etc or you can blame it on people just wanting to run into a killing distance they feel comfortable with and dont want to change the way they play.

Back to the topic of calling people out - if you guys were that good you wouldnt be playing Dust anyway so stop the we are PC we are ultimate rubbish.

Carry on discussing the MD.

Actually I only play a couple times a week anymore and thats only with friends....this game is just bad.

That being said I agree with Zdub however I also dont think this change would ever be done as CCP would take the easy way out and the easiest way to balance the MD is to lower the AOE...

As far as the AOE yea......88 (over 100 actual dmg to armor) AOE dmg in a larger than 8 meter radius is so balanced Roll

BTW lrn2read ....... when someone gives you a hypothetical situation to show the same logic your using to defend the MD on a different weapon that is KNOWN to be OP then its just that....a hypethetical situation that is meant to illustrate a point. You have obviously never actually debated anyone because hypotheticals are essential to pointing out flaws in an argument (which is why it is so heavily used in philosophy).

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Justin Tymes Raymond James Corp 267	Posted - 2013.08.01 17:10:00 - [1] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: semperfi1999 wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Why do people that play PC and use it as a badge of honour QQ They should be the ones living by HTFU and adapt or die but yet they make threads and pacts and whatever else to tone down weapons instead of finding ways to beat them. Now I think the MD can be a bit scary but I am a scout and having to dodge that many shots can be an issue if there isnt much cover close but if I am in a group and can flank or if I have a bit of high ground I am fine. I asked those jokers why a group of AR's couldnt keep their distance and defeat Flaylock users and all you heard was silence. IF PC is so hard and you guys are so good then defeat them, dont run crying. I love it how you guys act like regnum does not run by you and just completely roflstomp all of you with ease. Just because he can roflstomp you this doesnt mean the weapon your using is balanced. It has too much AOE for the dmg given (because AOE of 8+ meters is so balanced )...so either the dmg need to be decreased or the AOE needs to be decreased (decreased AOE would be better than dmg IMO). Just because there are people who could roflstomp the flaylock users that doesnt mean the flaylock was balanced. Noobs need to step back and stop talking when people who actually know a thing or two about FPS balance start talking. Yawn - here you come again. I never claimed the Flaylock didnt need balancing and I am not sure yet if the MD needs to be balanced again. Let me ask a question - If you turn down the AOE (damage or radius) then what is the point of the weapon? And once again the arguments against the Flaylock werent really addressed other than taking away much of its killing power and why is that - becuase many ran into its range instead of fighting outside of it. Now you can blame that on CCP's poor render of models and lag etc or you can blame it on people just wanting to run into a killing distance they feel comfortable with and dont want to change the way they play. Back to the topic of calling people out - if you guys were that good you wouldnt be playing Dust anyway so stop the we are PC we are ultimate rubbish. Carry on discussing the MD. Actually I only play a couple times a week anymore and thats only with friends....this game is just bad. That being said I agree with Zdub however I also dont think this change would ever be done as CCP would take the easy way out and the easiest way to balance the MD is to lower the AOE... As far as the AOE yea......88 (over 100 actual dmg to armor) AOE dmg in a larger than 8 meter radius is so balanced BTW lrn2read ....... when someone gives you a hypothetical situation to show the same logic your using to defend the MD on a different weapon that is KNOWN to be OP then its just that....a hypethetical situation that is meant to illustrate a point. You have obviously never actually debated anyone because hypotheticals are essential to pointing out flaws in an argument (which is why it is so heavily used in philosophy). Nerfed against shields with a slow reload time, If you can't out DPS an Assault MD, you need to get better.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz 297	Posted - 2013.08.11 00:17:00 - [2] - Quote 8213 wrote: One of the best DUST 514 players I've played with doesn't like MDs? Its because he's a scrub, right? No, he's a purist.