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Sir Eos wrote:

Dagger-Two wrote:

Congratulations, you played a MMO for 40 days without involving yourself with other people, then complain when you venture into dangerous space, where more seasoned players go to shoot each other, and complain that you were 'griefed' though the game clearly warns you that it's dangerous.

It's no different than making a brand new character on your favourite fantasy MMO, then wandering into PVP areas, only to be swiftly obliterated by high level characters. EVE is not unique in this, nor is it a problem for any player who takes the time to read what is presented to him, and think about his actions.

I'll bet you never even read through the tutorials completely.

Did. I also fully understood the dangers, knew exactly where I was going. I had spent 40 days in low sec areas. It was time to see what the "REAL" game was like.

And as I said.

What I saw was players who

Attack first, ask questions never.

It was 1 giant douchbag circle-jerk.

"Be the Villain" they advertise for this franchise.

Sometimes, to be more successful, you have to think about more than just a "Group" of players and think about people who don't have YEARS TO DEDICATE to the game. I'm already what... 7 years behind? What makes you think a new player is gonna pick this up and stick with it knowing such information. That's why after 7 years you still haven't broken 1 million.


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Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 47	Posted - 2013.07.31 23:18:00 - [1] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: Because I realize that life is to short to keep reading the same book or playing the same game over and over and over again. Especially when there's new books/games being released every week. . Enter EVERY OTHER MMORPG : Make a character, max out its level, get bored, make a new character, max out its level, get bored, and so on.... I can't even believe you can say that with a straight face. You sir are truly an idiot.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 47	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:38:00 - [2] - Quote Congratulations, you played a MMO for 40 days without involving yourself with other people, then complain when you venture into dangerous space, where more seasoned players go to shoot each other, and complain that you were 'griefed' though the game clearly warns you that it's dangerous. It's no different than making a brand new character on your favourite fantasy MMO, then wandering into PVP areas, only to be swiftly obliterated by high level characters. EVE is not unique in this, nor is it a problem for any player who takes the time to read what is presented to him, and think about his actions. I'll bet you never even read through the tutorials completely.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 48	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:45:00 - [3] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: Warning or not. If the playerbase of EvE represents how man would act as a glactic civilization in the future. . If you're going to make silly arguments like that.... The players of eve are only a tiny fraction of a percent of the population of New Eden. We play the part of the Capsuleers, immortal demigod pilots. Capsuleers are so detached from society that most don't even pause to think about the thousands of people they are murdering when they shoot another vessel, or blow up some structure. They easily amass personal fortunes that rival large corporations, spend the equivalent of entire planet's GDP's on frivolities, and care little for contemporary society. They are unbound, untamed, and generally psychopaths.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 49	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:49:00 - [4] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: Congratulations, you played a MMO for 40 days without involving yourself with other people, then complain when you venture into dangerous space, where more seasoned players go to shoot each other, and complain that you were 'griefed' though the game clearly warns you that it's dangerous. It's no different than making a brand new character on your favourite fantasy MMO, then wandering into PVP areas, only to be swiftly obliterated by high level characters. EVE is not unique in this, nor is it a problem for any player who takes the time to read what is presented to him, and think about his actions. I'll bet you never even read through the tutorials completely. Did. I also fully understood the dangers, knew exactly where I was going. I had spent 40 days in low sec areas. It was time to see what the "REAL" game was like. And as I said. What I saw was players who Attack first, ask questions never. It was 1 giant douchbag circle-jerk. "Be the Villain" they advertise for this franchise. Sometimes, to be more successful, you have to think about more than just a "Group" of players and think about people who don't have YEARS TO DEDICATE to the game. I'm already what... 7 years behind? What makes you think a new player is gonna pick this up and stick with it knowing such information. That's why after 7 years you still haven't broken 1 million. We kinda recruit new players all the time...in low sec...in Faction Warfare where we're constantly at war with a huge group of people who can shoot us legally even in high sec areas. Lots of players with only a few weeks experience come in, and we teach them and take care of them. That's why it's important to find people to play with. Also, not everyone just shoots random people. I for one don't aggress neutral pilots unless they aggress me first.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 49	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:00:00 - [5] - Quote Basically what it comes down to, is that EVE is filled with lots of different kinds of people, and many of them are generally kind and helpful individuals. I consider myself, my corpmates, and at least some of my alliance mates among them. You got ganked, decided to cry about it rather than learn from the experience, didn't seek the help of others, and made a hasty decision about a game you barely took part in. All your QQ is your own damn fault.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 49	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:17:00 - [6] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: Ultimately, my point is this... Everyone talks ** about games made for "Casuals" because they somehow drag down online gaming with their stupidity. Or some ** like that. But the reality is, it is exactly the type of people who play and enjoy the "Meta" of games like EvE and Dust that drag down online gaming. there is a difference between Playing a game like CoD in which the point is to technically do an evil deed to another player. That is the only choice given in that game. Until the person takes advantage of glitches, with all the effects that stem from that. Compared to the PVP that takes place in New Eden. Which is truly beyond the boundaries of the game world in terms of the "Meta". The only game where losing something could possibly actually lead to player commiting suicide. I can see something like that happening in a game like this. I would never get that angry. But, I cannot speak for all Half a Million of your users. i don't think any eve player has committed suicide over the game. World of Warcraft, however....
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 49	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:37:00 - [7] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: I don't think you understand. I never played Ultima Online for the very fact it had nearly unregulated PVP. Runescape.... uhhhh.... NO! I've dealt with these kinds of games before. They are, all the same. You play, for the sole purpose that one day, you can take your advantage and camp at a bottleneck to the "Good Parts of the game" use it against someone at a disadvantage,( usually an extreme disadvantage) for the sole purpose of pissing that random person off. IE. You play so that one day you can just start greifing other players. Most News Bulletins coming out of your game, are a testament to this fact. This game is advertised based on that fact. I pity all of you. HAHAHAHAHAHA, oh my, do tell us more about how your are so superior.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 49	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:44:00 - [8] - Quote Oh please go on, make more wild generalizations about us because we enjoy eve online.
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 51	Posted - 2013.08.03 06:46:00 - [9] - Quote I honestly can't believe you're still posting, and STILL being an arrogant, pompous a**hole. You lack even basic understanding of core game mechanics or social happenings. You treat joining a player-run corp like its being doomed to be ganked for all eternity, where the hell do you even get that idea? I don't think the word 'Meta" means what you think it means. You don't lose a titan by getting 'ganked', you lose it because you have done something profoundly stupid, like hitting 'Jump to' instead of 'Bridge to' (lol-Asakai, amirite fellas?). Not to mention, if you HAVE A TITAN, you are very much oriented toward PVP and understand the risks. This imaginary 7-year carebear you speak of does not exist. Real 'griefing' is not common, because if you're in high-sec space, and you shoot someone, concord comes and hits you with a bat. You can't just randomly shoot someone in high-sec and get away with it. Sure, it HAPPENS, people suicide gank for fun, but that is a TINY percentage of the community. YES there are pirates in low sec (they are not griefers, they are pirates. That is how they make their money.) but the game WARNS you about it, and at the heart of this is the fact that you DID NOT HEED THAT WARNING and got really butt-hurt about it. There are literally HUNDREDS of other players available at ANY given time to answer questions or help you along in the help channels, starter corp channels, or even your local chat in starter systems. Hell, it's even a bannable offense to grief new players within starter systems. There are plenty of safeguards to make sure players don't have to experience PVP until they are ready, you clearly just aren't smart enough to see them. instead, you just want the game to hold your hand and kiss your boo-boos better. It's just not that kind of game, and for all your ranting about how horrible it is, it is STILL the only MMO of it's age to have constant growth year after year, and not just the "1 or 2" players you like to mistakenly point out. The fact you have gone on about this for so long, refuse to shut up, and can't seem to realize that this is all merely your opinion and anyone who is ACTUALLY intelligent doesn't try so hard to force his opinions on others, tells me that you have lived a very sheltered life and have no freaking idea what reality is. Don't hate on urban dictionary just because you absolutely fit the well-known definition of a carebear. One last thing: You hate on the eve skill model, but riddle me this. If you make a WoW character, pay the monthly subscription, run through the game and get to level 85 or 90 or 100000 or whatever, then get bored and make another character because you're bored, only to do all the leveling again, get bored, and repeat...isn't THAT just another clever way of sucking a subcription fee out of somebody? At least in eve, as I keep playing, my character will become better at more and more things. The passive skillpoints mean I can play eve when I have time, have my character advance, and STILL have a life. The only grind is for ISK, and if you know what you're doing, it's not really a grind at all. Afterthought: Been following this thread for days, and I think it could be possible, that this guy has just been trolling us this whole time.