DUST Search - CCP whats with the render distance?

Spec Ops Cipher wrote:

KenKaniff69 wrote:

Jason Pearson wrote:

It's god damn awful, and you're bad for doing such an awful thing.

Sit in a tank, can't see forge gunners or Swarm Launchers because they're outside my render distance, yet vehicles render perfectly fine at double the distance. Same with Installations, they can see me, I can't see them.

It's bad enough being told to "Adapt or Die" by **** players, and then when actually playing smart, I physically can't see people attacking me because of horrible mechanics. I'm tired of losing 6-7 games worth of ISK because of it, get ****** CCP.

Around 430m for sniper rifle scopes, but the reds blend into the ground. Often times while I am in a tank and turn the corner things will not render at even 50m. They will finally show up after the player moves or a 1-2 second delay. Dont confuse this with cloaked spawning. Sometimes it is even worse with running enemies, which I am trying to get before they make it into cover. It is pathetic to lose 7 games worth of grinding isk because a 50 ton piece of steel that could zoom to 1000m last build cant seem to pick up targets less than 100 m away.

I swear, my sniper renders no enemies, vehicles or installations past 250m. Its ridiculous, other snipers can see me, but I can only see chevrons past 250m. I've tried all the quality settings, I'm gonna send a ticket in about it... Anyone else in the same boat?

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Crow Splat DUST University Ivy League 73	Posted - 2013.07.31 14:12:00 - [31] - Quote I can't tell whether the people I'm shooting at are rendering or not through the mass of health bars blocking everything. But seriously I have people just disappear when I'm sniping at 200 meters. I don't know the distance but there seems to be a magic line that people render on one side but are invisible on the other.
Mamertine Son Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.07.31 14:22:00 - [32] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: They brought head-glitching back. bravo, CCP, bravo. I saw that today, what the hell is that?
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2013.07.31 14:42:00 - [33] - Quote Mamertine Son wrote: Cass Caul wrote: They brought head-glitching back. bravo, CCP, bravo. I saw that today, what the hell is that? It was all the rage on Manus Peak. Manus Peak was pretty balanced or snipers before. Defenders got to have the nigh unassailable peak, and the attackers had a hill full of little spots where because of how things were rendered allowed them to get into positions that could not be fired onto. It means that you can clearly see them, yet they are actually behind 100% cover. Granted, it only worked in a few dozen places, now it is happening anywhere where that z-fighting occurs. Which is every structure past 100m and most mountains past 300m. It used to only affect the hills at around 600m
Vavilia Lysenko Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 204	Posted - 2013.07.31 15:27:00 - [34] - Quote Jhakl wrote: I know this pain. Sniper scope up targets disappear when fired on. 350 to 400 meters and bodys blend in with walls. I am seeing this at anything over 100M on some maps. It does seem to me map/socket specific. Ashland is particularly bad (when I say bad I mean ******* awful).
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 201	Posted - 2013.07.31 15:32:00 - [35] - Quote Spec Ops Cipher wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: It's god damn awful, and you're bad for doing such an awful thing. Sit in a tank, can't see forge gunners or Swarm Launchers because they're outside my render distance, yet vehicles render perfectly fine at double the distance. Same with Installations, they can see me, I can't see them. It's bad enough being told to "Adapt or Die" by ** players, and then when actually playing smart, I physically can't see people attacking me because of horrible mechanics. I'm tired of losing 6-7 games worth of ISK because of it, get **** CCP. Around 430m for sniper rifle scopes, but the reds blend into the ground. Often times while I am in a tank and turn the corner things will not render at even 50m. They will finally show up after the player moves or a 1-2 second delay. Dont confuse this with cloaked spawning. Sometimes it is even worse with running enemies, which I am trying to get before they make it into cover. It is pathetic to lose 7 games worth of grinding isk because a 50 ton piece of steel that could zoom to 1000m last build cant seem to pick up targets less than 100 m away. I swear, my sniper renders no enemies, vehicles or installations past 250m. Its ridiculous, other snipers can see me, but I can only see chevrons past 250m. I've tried all the quality settings, I'm gonna send a ticket in about it... Anyone else in the same boat? Yup. Sitting on a tower with a Kaalakiota rifle only to track people who can suddenly disappear and reappear somewhere else.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2306	Posted - 2013.07.31 15:40:00 - [36] - Quote Glad everyone else agrees this is ****. This needs to be addressed CCP :/
noob 45 Syndicate of Gods 60	Posted - 2013.07.31 17:17:00 - [37] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: "Waaah I dont pay enough attention and my shiny toy gets blown up" I do agree though that invisible swarms need to be fixed I will take the troll route to communicate with this troll. Delta 749 you are a dipshit. There is a difference between not paying attention and graphics not appearing on your screen for extended periods of time. What the original poster said is true and is a HUGE problem. You can't say someone isn't paying attention if they are staring directly AT the person shooting them, but the person simply isn't showing up on the screen. Sometimes it's the player that isn't appearing on the screen, and sometimes it is environmental objects between you and the player that doesn't appear, but will still block your shots.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 631	Posted - 2013.08.03 12:27:00 - [38] - Quote Gotta confess, I'm having split feelings about Render distance VS Decent framerate -balancing.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2392	Posted - 2013.08.03 13:12:00 - [39] - Quote IF enemies actually rendered at the maximum distance of my railgun, I wouldn't mind it so much, but I can fire like 200m further than the distance, it's stupid and makes me just want to not bother with the game. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
Chilled Pill Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 145	Posted - 2013.08.03 13:15:00 - [40] - Quote I think they used this as a frame rate solution. Which of course, back fires. hahaha

Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 45	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:57:00 - [41] - Quote Would really like to be able to see what shooting at me. Adapting means I have to advance from cover to cover and take out turrets as I can see them. I am fine with that the turrets are generally on the far side of the map, its the forge gunners and swarms that can see me when I can't them.
abarkrishna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.09.20 03:19:00 - [42] - Quote As of Uprising 1.4 I have had a rendering problem but not at long range. On several occasions i would be shooting a guy 15 feet in front of my blaster tank and he would sidestep and not render. also when he was shooting his swarms i could see the visual effects of the gun firing but the guy plus his swarms were invisible. i literally just saw the firing effects. The rendering is better outside of vehicles. i should not have to get out of my tank to see an enemy/ installation / vehicle/ teammate. THIS IS RIDICULOUS !!!! Especially when they are less than 100 feet from me!
Aisha Ctarl Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1348	Posted - 2013.09.20 03:47:00 - [43] - Quote 1.4 bought about the awful rendering. In a match I can have things 15 ft in front of me fail to render until I'm right up on top of them.
Chances Ghost D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 974	Posted - 2013.09.20 07:37:00 - [44] - Quote CCP isnt aloud talking about rendering
Rei Shepard Spectre II 607	Posted - 2013.09.20 08:39:00 - [45] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: It's god damn awful. Sit in a tank, can't see forge gunners or Swarm Launchers because they're outside my render distance, yet vehicles render perfectly fine at double the distance. Same with Installations, they can see me, I can't see them. It's bad enough being told to "Adapt or Die" by players, and then when actually playing smart, I physically can't see people attacking me because of horrible mechanics. I'm tired of losing 6-7 games worth of ISK because of it. If you ever get to sit in a real tank, lemme know how much of the field you actually see from that drivers position, ow wait i forgot again, its a game.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8674	Posted - 2013.09.20 08:40:00 - [46] - Quote Hopefully with some more optimizations it should slowly get fixed.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 2717	Posted - 2013.09.20 10:42:00 - [47] - Quote Moving from General Discussions to Feedback/Requests. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept @CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents

Mortedeamor Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 276	Posted - 2013.09.20 10:56:00 - [48] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: It's god damn awful. Sit in a tank, can't see forge gunners or Swarm Launchers because they're outside my render distance, yet vehicles render perfectly fine at double the distance. Same with Installations, they can see me, I can't see them. It's bad enough being told to "Adapt or Die" by players, and then when actually playing smart, I physically can't see people attacking me because of horrible mechanics. I'm tired of losing 6-7 games worth of ISK because of it. i agree rendering distance when ina tank is like 50- 75 m tops ..considering that av users generally attack tanks exceeding 200m this makes your vision crippling
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 744	Posted - 2013.09.20 12:34:00 - [49] - Quote I guess tanks are supposed to be blind when it comes to detecting infantry by sensors - but not by their models, especially tank and turret models.
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 64	Posted - 2013.09.20 14:04:00 - [50] - Quote Lol typical CCP they move it to feedback section but they give no response or acknowlegment that it's awful. ..

Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 960	Posted - 2013.09.20 15:36:00 - [51] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: "Waaah I dont pay enough attention and my shiny toy gets blown up" I do agree though that invisible swarms need to be fixed Well thats because of render distance........ How can people pay attention to stuff, if its invisible?
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 466	Posted - 2013.09.21 00:26:00 - [52] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hopefully with some more optimizations it should slowly get fixed. Optimizations like 1.0 or 1.4 which have made it even worse? Screw graphics. Rendering is what counts.


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