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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:09:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:8213 wrote:Harpyja wrote:The best shield tank fit comes at a little above 6100 shield, and most armor tanks (the best ones) have 6700 armor that I've ran across. After looking at the market menus. So far I've calculated that the max armor an HAV can have is 19776HP... I don't know how shields can break 15000 thought. I'm still looking into it 19,776 HP holy fk.. is this just using fitting space and mods with no pg/cpu calculations? Or with PG/CPU and skills factored in? I'd **** my pants and exit game
I factored in everything.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
735
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:11:00 -
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8213 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:8213 wrote:Harpyja wrote:The best shield tank fit comes at a little above 6100 shield, and most armor tanks (the best ones) have 6700 armor that I've ran across. After looking at the market menus. So far I've calculated that the max armor an HAV can have is 19776HP... I don't know how shields can break 15000 thought. I'm still looking into it 19,776 HP holy fk.. is this just using fitting space and mods with no pg/cpu calculations? Or with PG/CPU and skills factored in? I'd **** my pants and exit game I factored in everything.
and I got called a liar for saying me and 3 guys couldn't kill a tank with AV nades, me having packed no clue what the other guys had |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
259
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:22:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:8213 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:8213 wrote:Harpyja wrote:The best shield tank fit comes at a little above 6100 shield, and most armor tanks (the best ones) have 6700 armor that I've ran across. After looking at the market menus. So far I've calculated that the max armor an HAV can have is 19776HP... I don't know how shields can break 15000 thought. I'm still looking into it 19,776 HP holy fk.. is this just using fitting space and mods with no pg/cpu calculations? Or with PG/CPU and skills factored in? I'd **** my pants and exit game I factored in everything. and I got called a liar for saying me and 3 guys couldn't kill a tank with AV nades, me having packed no clue what the other guys had
I call hit detection. 1 time I had 1 guy throwing AV nades at me, and it did 0 damage. Still, I call Bullshit.  |
Bendtner92
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
817
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:33:00 -
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8213 wrote:I factored in everything.
Yeah, no.
Try factoring in CPU/PG. |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
305
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:37:00 -
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Seriously, anyone who thinks any of this is possible, just log off the forums and go on Dust and find out for yourself, but I'll make it easy for you; It isn't. |
8213
Grade No.2
56
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:38:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:8213 wrote:I factored in everything.
Yeah, no. Try factoring in CPU/PG.
did |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
736
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:39:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:Seriously, anyone who thinks any of this is possible, just log off the forums and go on Dust and find out for yourself, but I'll make it easy for you; It isn't.
yeh it seems a bit far fetched , but I hate math. The biggest I have seen was like 10k and it was all armor, no reps or anything |
8213
Grade No.2
56
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:40:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:Seriously, anyone who thinks any of this is possible, just log off the forums and go on Dust and find out for yourself, but I'll make it easy for you; It isn't.
Funny, people who actually USE the vehicles in this game validate my claim. What are you basing this "impossible"
theory on? The fact that you've never witnessed it in a game yet, or it just seems unlikely, or that you yourself have spec'd into HAVs and max them out? |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
736
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:40:00 -
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why has nobody created a great Dust fitting tool yet? The Eve fitting tool is amazing
or is there a good one and I just have yet to hear about it... |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
305
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:41:00 -
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I have tried to fit tanks for shield buffs, the proto-heavy shield extenders cost so much PG/CPU you can only fit around 1-2, 3 if you aren't using a powerful turret. And even then, all those add is 2,100 shield/Armor to the equation, so there aren't even modules available on the market in Dust that could provide that kind of shield/armor tank.
I don't know why the OP insists that this is completely possible when he himself states that he has no experience with vehicles himself. Just the 15K/15K alone shows how ridiculous this entire claim is. You would have to double, if not triple an HAV's high slots to get that kind of tank fitted with heavy proto extenders and hardeners. |
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8213
Grade No.2
56
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:44:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:I have tried to fit tanks for shield buffs, the proto-heavy shield extenders cost so much PG/CPU you can only fit around 1-2, 3 if you aren't using a powerful turret. And even then, all those add is 2,100 shield to the equation, so there aren't even modules available on the market in Dust that could provide that kind of shield/armor tank.
Alright, we're making progress. You're half wrong so far :)
But still, care to explain why its impossible?
Besides that it may "ought" to be impossible? |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
550
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:46:00 -
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8213 wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:8213 wrote:I factored in everything.
Yeah, no. Try factoring in CPU/PG. did
And Turrets, high slots?
So he could NOT have had 15k shield and 15k Armor, that there is flat out impossible.
If you have that many plates, you cannot have hardeners or reps. your speed would be very very very very slow, with no reps, no hardners and that speed, even if this was possible would be dumb. all you would achieve is death, explosions and loss of your tank, 15k HP with no modules, would take a swrmer 2 clips , and you'd be gone, and you wouldn't be able to out run him.
TBO I still think you misread this, or are trolling, or telling fibs.
I don't think you can mount 5 plates, when you factor in turrets. |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
305
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:47:00 -
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8213 wrote:Serimos Haeraven wrote:I have tried to fit tanks for shield buffs, the proto-heavy shield extenders cost so much PG/CPU you can only fit around 1-2, 3 if you aren't using a powerful turret. And even then, all those add is 2,100 shield to the equation, so there aren't even modules available on the market in Dust that could provide that kind of shield/armor tank. Alright, we're making progress. You're half wrong so far :) But still, care to explain why its impossible? Besides that it may "ought" to be impossible?
Look, I'm not going to argue about this for long because you must just be a troll or something. If you think it is possible then go ahead and fully spec yourself into an HAV and try for yourself, I already did and can say with 100% certainty that fit IS NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1334
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:48:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Just own up to the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about, and realize that you absolutely cannot have a tank with that much raw hp.
To fit 4 180mm polycrystalline plates, you could reach 15k armor... At the cost of over 5000 PG.
No vehicle has 5000 PG with no PG upgrades fitted. The madrugar starts with a base 2600 or so, and there are no skills that passively increase it.
It's mathematically impossible.
No response 8213?
That's right... Cause trolls don't reply to logic.
It's not a bad troll thread though, I'll give it a 7/10 for effort. |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
305
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:49:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Just own up to the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about, and realize that you absolutely cannot have a tank with that much raw hp.
To fit 4 180mm polycrystalline plates, you could reach 15k armor... At the cost of over 5000 PG.
No vehicle has 5000 PG with no PG upgrades fitted. The madrugar starts with a base 2600 or so, and there are no skills that passively increase it.
It's mathematically impossible. No response 8213? That's right... Cause trolls don't reply to logic. It's not a bad troll thread though, I'll give it a 7/10 for effort.
7/10 indeed. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
736
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Posted - 2013.07.28 15:49:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:OP stop embarrassing yourself and let it go. with 2 180 mm poly plates you cant go past 10k. stop acting like you know the game better then the vets, like you said, you only have 7 mill sp.
I only have 10.5 mil SP and been here longer than a lot with more than me :( |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
259
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Posted - 2013.07.28 16:01:00 -
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Well Mr. Knowitall, I have actually done the highest possible HP, which is 13k, and that's without repairers. And I have max vehicle skills, so don't even try saying that I don't. |
Medic 1879
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
750
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Posted - 2013.07.28 16:03:00 -
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Lol this guy is great, pulls a number out of his backside and defends it to the death. 9/10 for the trolling well done. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
736
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Posted - 2013.07.28 16:04:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Well Mr. Knowitall, I have actually done the highest possible HP, which is 13k, and that's without repairers. And I have max vehicle skills, so don't even try saying that I don't.
which would be pointless to field unless using a redline buffer.. which a redline tank should be fit for max effective guns imo
so, overall pointless to do lol
The best all around tanks I have seen sit between the 6500-7500 range |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
550
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Posted - 2013.07.28 16:05:00 -
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I dont have all my pg maxed, but 3k more is needed to fit this
I chose th lowest pg main and lower turrets, all missile, CPU fits fine
S:1125 A:18585HP movement penalty: -76.27%
PG required 5796
not happening, not even with all armor and pg skills maxed |
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PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei
ZionTCD
48
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Posted - 2013.07.28 16:06:00 -
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Take it from an old school tanker, with over 11 mil Sp into vehicles. This is not possible and obviously either a troll alt account or someone with very very low intellect.
You yourself have said that you can't even go into the vehicle fitting screen. |
Medic 1879
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
750
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Posted - 2013.07.28 16:07:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:I dont have all my pg maxed, but 3k more is needed to fit this
I chose th lowest pg main and lower turrets, all missile, CPU fits fine
S:1125 A:18585HP movement penalty: -76.27%
PG required 5796
not happening, not even with all armor and pg skills maxed
That would be so much fun to drive. It would be so funny to watch it crawl across the battle field getting over taken by heavies.
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Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
550
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Posted - 2013.07.28 16:17:00 -
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If it rolled past him like he OP says it would have taken 15 minutes |
Void Echo
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
859
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Posted - 2013.07.28 17:32:00 -
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sorry, I correcting my stats now, maximum of 7705 armor with a particle cannon and heavy armor rep |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
972
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Posted - 2013.07.28 17:34:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Well Mr. Knowitall, I have actually done the highest possible HP, which is 13k, and that's without repairers. And I have max vehicle skills, so don't even try saying that I don't.
Is that EHP? If it's EHP then I believe you as my Gunnie needs about 14-15K total damage in a gunfight to take it out.
Otherwise I'd like to know the modules on that. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
261
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Posted - 2013.07.28 17:42:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Well Mr. Knowitall, I have actually done the highest possible HP, which is 13k, and that's without repairers. And I have max vehicle skills, so don't even try saying that I don't. Is that EHP? If it's EHP then I believe you as my Gunnie needs about 14-15K total damage in a gunfight to take it out. Otherwise I'd like to know the modules on that.
No, just straight HP. I'm not factoring in resistances. And there is nothing in my high slots. The thing is a pos, and I wouldn't drive it. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2493
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Posted - 2013.07.28 17:43:00 -
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Most people here were brainwashed by CoD and (somewhat) other FPSes into believing that infantry should be the main fighting force.
In reality, vehicles are the main fighting force.
Even Battlefield has somewhat of the problem that it's too infantry based. |
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