DUST Search - More about the SCR

Kane Fyea wrote:

8213 wrote:

So, you might have seen my last topic about the SCR.

I decided to spec into it, and give it a try. To say that thing is not OP, would be a lie and a half. There are only 2 drawbacks to using it, the over heat(which is not really a balance to to weapon that can kill in one shot) and the overheat animation stall.

The animation stall is the one I want to bring up. When my Scrambler overheats, it goes into the animation where it glows red and cools down before it can be used again. During that time I can't do anything but wait for the gun to cool off. I try to throw a grenade, switch to my secondary, pull out a repair tool, etc; nothing happens. I have to sit and wait for the animation to complete before I can do anything.

What I want to know is, is this built into the game, or is it something CCP overlooked like so many things they already have. I can understand that if the weapon overheats, you probably don't want to sling it over your shoulder when its glowing red.Part of me can accept that, but its a game that doesn't have any emphasis on realism or physics, and I can't give CCP that much credit.

Is it a glitch that I can't switch out to anything while I'm in the cool down phase, or is it intentional?

It's intentional.

BTW OP is a faggot.


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8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.07.27 23:54:00 - [1] - Quote So, you might have seen my last topic about the SCR. I decided to spec into it, and give it a try. To say that thing is not OP, would be a lie and a half. There are only 2 drawbacks to using it, the over heat(which is not really a balance to to weapon that can kill in one shot) and the overheat animation stall. The animation stall is the one I want to bring up. When my Scrambler overheats, it goes into the animation where it glows red and cools down before it can be used again. During that time I can't do anything but wait for the gun to cool off. I try to throw a grenade, switch to my secondary, pull out a repair tool, etc; nothing happens. I have to sit and wait for the animation to complete before I can do anything. What I want to know is, is this built into the game, or is it something CCP overlooked like so many things they already have. I can understand that if the weapon overheats, you probably don't want to sling it over your shoulder when its glowing red.Part of me can accept that, but its a game that doesn't have any emphasis on realism or physics, and I can't give CCP that much credit. Is it a glitch that I can't switch out to anything while I'm in the cool down phase, or is it intentional?
8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.07.27 23:57:00 - [2] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: 8213 wrote: So, you might have seen my last topic about the SCR. I decided to spec into it, and give it a try. To say that thing is not OP, would be a lie and a half. There are only 2 drawbacks to using it, the over heat(which is not really a balance to to weapon that can kill in one shot) and the overheat animation stall. The animation stall is the one I want to bring up. When my Scrambler overheats, it goes into the animation where it glows red and cools down before it can be used again. During that time I can't do anything but wait for the gun to cool off. I try to throw a grenade, switch to my secondary, pull out a repair tool, etc; nothing happens. I have to sit and wait for the animation to complete before I can do anything. What I want to know is, is this built into the game, or is it something CCP overlooked like so many things they already have. I can understand that if the weapon overheats, you probably don't want to sling it over your shoulder when its glowing red.Part of me can accept that, but its a game that doesn't have any emphasis on realism or physics, and I can't give CCP that much credit. Is it a glitch that I can't switch out to anything while I'm in the cool down phase, or is it intentional? It's intentional. BTW OP is a faggot. Yeah, i thought Barney always looked at him fuuny
8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.07.28 01:34:00 - [3] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: It's intentional as a balance to the weapon. But try out the TAR next, you'll see it's much better and efficient. It has longer range, no overheat, and 90% damage to armor. -XOXO I have used TARs. I've used the Duvolle. Truth be told it was so good, that it was boring. From what I've tried of the SCRs so far, its the same. If SCRs weren't overly effective, then why are more, and more, people using them? If they are so balanced, then why do people use them at all? Why not just use TARs, or ARs, or Shotguns? In the first 10 seconds of using an SCR I said "This thing is OP as f*ck". I went 6-2 in 2 minutes. I had 5 assists to go with it, and a 1HK. It takes no skill to use. But maybe that's because I know my way around FPS so there is no learning curve for me. Right now I'm dabbling into Lasers because I like punishment, and I got 50 free "Burnstalks" from the July promotions to use up, lol.
8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.07.28 01:37:00 - [4] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Again it takes skill and time to get those head shot and a bit of luck the gun is not op Who needs a headshot when I can drain the entire shield of a Heavy in one charged body shot? But I think the hitbox for the SCR Headshot is very liberal. So far, and I'm not exaggerating, 40-50% of my SCR kills are headshots, and I'm not aiming for the head in general. I probably have just as many headshots with SCRs as ARs after one day of using them....
8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.07.28 01:40:00 - [5] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Theres no getting into that thick skull of your is there? I'm using it first hand. How are you going to convince me of what I capable of doing with SCRs after using them and doing BETTER than using an AR after only day of using them... Are the numbers, damage, and scores Im posting fictitious? I've been playing FPS for 20 years, I know my way around, and i know what's OP, normal, balanced, and what's not...
8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.07.28 01:52:00 - [6] - Quote Oh shoot, I forgot... this is FPS logic. You're right. I'm better with the SCR than the AR because I'm that awesome! I have so much skill that CCP will personally make me a FoTM. I can't help it I'm that awesome at this game. Its not the gear or weapons I'm using. Its not me abusing the mechanics, its me just plain ole DOMINATING! Of course, I do die once in a great while, but that's because the game is broken, I have sh!tty teammates, and the tryhard * boy that killed was a tryhard * boy. Its never my fault that I die, EVER. Anything that can kill me needs a nerf, and anything I do good with is fair and balanced, and most likely needs a buff so other not-so-skilled players, unlike myself, can use it and be almost as successful as I am.
8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 47	Posted - 2013.07.28 02:13:00 - [7] - Quote Bittersteel the Bastard wrote: Did you major in idiocy in college? The scrambler rifle overheats, has less range, and damages you if you spray and pray. The Assault Rifle (specifically the TAR) has far more accuracy (than the assault version), does not overheat, and does not damage you if you spray and pray. Oh and it has barely any recoil. So you specced into the basic SCR and played maybe a match or two and you think you know everything about it? Oh wait sorry it's your knowledge of other FPSs that somehow makes you an expert at this one. That's like saying: "I studied dentistry so now I can do open heart surgery." lol, my K/D did raise .01 when I used the SCR. I used it for about 20-25 matches. Is there a 10,000 pg manual about this gun that I need to know about? Because it couldn't possibly be that everything about DUST in general is not actually that complex to anyone with an IQ above 100. Considering an AR takes an usual minimum of 10 hits to kill, spray&pray doesn't matter in this game. Its all about time-to-kill. Example time: A player with 500HP is just standing there, just asking to be shot. Standard AR. 50m. No. headshots. No mods. Will cause the 500HP of damage in 1.2 seconds. [15 bullets] (minimum) (This also is only if the player doesn't catch on to the fact that they are being shot and doesn't decide to run away and hide AND every shot you just fired connects.) Standard SCR. 50M. No mods. 1 charged shot, followed by follow up shots will cause 500HP of damage in .55 seconds[best I can figure that a charge takes from what I've tested thus far] (minimum) Because 1 charged shot to the body will be a one hit kill, and the player won't even know what hit them. Now, like any weapon in any game, its as only good as the player using it. Some weapons will always be easier to use than others. But more, and more, people are using SCRs... why? If its so balanced, what's the point of using it as opposed to anything else?
8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 47	Posted - 2013.07.28 02:15:00 - [8] - Quote Wait until the influx of Flying Buses armed with Forge Gunners really starts to take over. It'll be the next thing people ***** about, but there will always be a side that claims that, that tactic isn't OP.
8213 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 48	Posted - 2013.07.28 02:46:00 - [9] - Quote Celeste Cyra wrote: 8213 wrote: Wait until the influx of Flying Buses armed with Forge Gunners really starts to take over. It'll be the next thing people ***** about, but there will always be a side that claims that, that tactic isn't OP. WOW... When you start insinuating that dropships are overpowered is when you went from nonsensical to raving lunatic. The Airship itself is not. In fact, they are a complete waste of time at the moment. But put 3 Forge Gunners on one of them and you'll know what true destruction is. I'll remind you a month from now