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8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:28:00 -
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This has only been happening with Scrambler Rifles, but I'm getting killed by them in 4 shots or less. I don't know if its headshott multiplier, or what. But nobody else will be firing at me, but Scrambler Rifles are dropping me from full shields and Armor in 1 second.
I'm assuming its some kind of lag, but its only SCRs. I watch my health meter deplete in 2 shots. This is putting the damage done to me at over 150HP per shot.
I know Scramblers are great weapons, but any explanation as to what's causing this? Its happened over 50x now, at all ranges and levels of weapon. |
8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:39:00 -
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Most of my HP is 50/50. 299Shield/277Armor. I have been doing that since Uprising to combat the Scrambler Rifle. I don't know how a weapon can be that blatantly powerful to its counterparts. I expect it to cut my shield down, but to take me from full health to dead in 4 shots, sometimes only 2 isn't making sense. |
8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:43:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Charged shot is slow moving.
Stop standing around.
I never stop moving, ever. |
8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:48:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:8213 wrote:Most of my HP is 50/50. 299Shield/277Armor. I have been doing that since Uprising to combat the Scrambler Rifle. I don't know how a weapon can be that blatantly powerful to its counterparts. I expect it to cut my shield down, but to take me from full health to dead in 4 shots, sometimes only 2 isn't making sense. Well you have low shields so it'll vaporize them in 2 shots. The next 2 shots will most likely get through your low armor as well. You need more health if you wanna survive, or take more cover. Scrambler rifles have around 80 damage. Also a TAR will most likely kill you faster. -XOXO
Still doesn't add up |
8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:23:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:8213 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:8213 wrote:Most of my HP is 50/50. 299Shield/277Armor. I have been doing that since Uprising to combat the Scrambler Rifle. I don't know how a weapon can be that blatantly powerful to its counterparts. I expect it to cut my shield down, but to take me from full health to dead in 4 shots, sometimes only 2 isn't making sense. Well you have low shields so it'll vaporize them in 2 shots. The next 2 shots will most likely get through your low armor as well. You need more health if you wanna survive, or take more cover. Scrambler rifles have around 80 damage. Also a TAR will most likely kill you faster. -XOXO Still doesn't add up Most Scrambler Rifle players will shoot a charged shot first, which does an insane amount of damage, and can leave a fit like yours with very little HP. Then 1 or 2 shots to kill you before it overheats. And trust me that thing overheats a lot. It's balanced, get that HP up. -XOXO
What do you mean get my HP up? That's in a medium suit. 576HP is plenty in this game for a medium. I have a proto suit that has 800+HP, that's getting into HMG levels. The math still doesn't make sense; SCRs cant kill drain 576HP in less than 4 shots.
If they can, there is no point to using any other weapon in this game. Just like the Vizium was during the Beta.
If it can kill just about anyone in 4 "bullets" its NOT balanced in the slightest, especially if it doesn't have any counterparts except a decked out Proto Sentinel. Suit I honestly think its some kind of glitch, because no possibility of the scrambler rifle can cause 144-278HP damage per shot. Not even miniguns on any HAV can do that.
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8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:34:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:8213 wrote:
What do you mean get my HP up? That's in a medium suit. 576HP is plenty in this game for a medium. I have a proto suit that has 800+HP, that's getting into HMG levels. The math still doesn't make sense; SCRs cant kill drain 576HP in less than 4 shots.
If they can, there is no point to using any other weapon in this game. Just like the Vizium was during the Beta.
If it can kill just about anyone in 4 "bullets" its NOT balanced in the slightest, especially if it doesn't have any counterparts except a decked out Proto Sentinel. Suit I honestly think its some kind of glitch, because no possibility of the scrambler rifle can cause 144-278HP damage per shot. Not even miniguns on any HAV can do that.
You got beat. Accept it and stop trying to stir **** up
I don't mind getting beat, as long as the playing field is fair-ish. |
8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:38:00 -
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Charged shot, follow up shots and lasers eat shields. Might have a head shot mixed in too. You're not the only one this happens too. I barely have 500HP on my ADV Minmatar logi and a SCR will put me down to 50 armor. [/quote]
So how the hell can it kill me when I start with full shields AND armor?
The Assault Rifle is supposed to be the couterpart to SCRs. After I drain shields, it usually only take 1-3 AR shots to kill a clone. But I can't drain all shields and kill the clone with just 4 shots. I expect an SCR to rip through my shields, like an AR rips through armor. Bot how can it rip through both equally? That's not what the gun was intended to be. |
8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:49:00 -
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http://youtu.be/aJT-n4RD7zc
And yes, I am THAT guy... |
8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:57:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:8213 wrote:Most of my HP is 50/50. 299Shield/277Armor. I have been doing that since Uprising to combat the Scrambler Rifle. I don't know how a weapon can be that blatantly powerful to its counterparts. I expect it to cut my shield down, but to take me from full health to dead in 4 shots, sometimes only 2 isn't making sense. A charged shot is around 190-250ish for a body shot, standard rife no mods no prof. Im betting a scrambler rifle backed by skill and dmg mods could do 700+ dmg headshots. just guessing... Seems about right. I'm curious to see how head shot damage is calculated. Not like we'll ever see the hard numbers. 
If that's the case, that's ridiculous. 1HKs from a standard issue weapon should never be in a game.
But its the vicious cycle of any game, the more you find out about the mechanics and how its supposed to work, the more you'll get upset when you discover it not working the way its supposed to be. Allowing a primary rifle to cause as much as 700 damage is another "What eere they thinking" CCP moment |
8213
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:32:00 -
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Well, i tried it for myself.
I spec'd into the STD SCR and brought it into a game.
That charge shot is very VERY powerful. I killed a guy in one hit with it, and did a number on a Heavy in no time.
Is it OP? I think it is. I had the lowest type, and did more than decent my first time using it. It doesn't have that big of a skill gap in my opinion. |
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