I'm down for maybe nerfing the contact grenades to 2 total but 1 that's just over doing it.

Are you a logi there is nothing wrong with them nerfing shield regulation is unnecessary. Besides logis are the closest things to assault don't understand why people think they need to be 10x weaker.

I didn't say they should be assault class I said they are the closest to an assault class what is the difference between a logi and assault really? They both have almost the same amount of high and low slots each use lights weapons the only difference is the number of equipment and sometimes a sidearm that an the base attributes.

I can't explain it when I say something just feels right and I feel the logi fits it's place. Only thing I think needs a nerf is the core lock because the damage is to high.

They aren't easy mode at all they have very low splash I already had to leave tanks because of the huge amount of nerfs what's next logis. It you use thukker you can not take on vehicles unless you are using swarms and a lot of players do not use this you are sacrificing one play style for another thukker wont kill a tank or lav.

My point exactly they're no good at av so when you use them you sacrifice av that's why I feel they are not op. Why make them not even good at infantry if that is what they are suppose to do?

Bro, do you even logi? Shield regulation is already criminally underrated. It's not an issue of being an assault logi, because there isn't such thing. Everyone just flocked to the CaLogi because it was super OP. Back to the point though, shield regulation = survival. Logis are bright freaking yellow, slow and that makes us easy targets. Want us to use equipment? We need to be alive to use it.

Edit: Also, god forbid someone kill something in a goddamned FPS.

People think I'm gonna run around in a scout suit with equipment I deserve to score skills just like every suit does but I need survivability to do that.

Lol dude I run logi how are you going to say that you think logis should run no grenades, no weapons, and only equipments it's sad that you think this should be an assault dominate game. Okay let me give up all my module slots and weapon slots so I can serve down your equipment.

Not true at all what you're saying is people should be forced into a play style your not gonna force me into an assault just to score more kills. I have scored more kills then assaults and I see that as fair.

You're kidding, right? Depending on the map and who I'm squading with, I'm not always with my team.

That's kind of a generalist's idea of the class, but there's a bit more than being everyone's personal battle butler. For example, I'm the kind of logistics that runs the map, laying out uplinks and triage hives for heavies in my squad that want to run point defense and don't need a baby sitter or proximity mines and REs to take care of murder taxis. Along with that, I use my suit's hacking bonus with kin cats/regulators and a codebreaker to run distraction, hacking unguarded objectives, keeping the enemy team on their toes. I don't have proto kin cats yet, but when I do, I'm considering switching out my usual MD for a SG, for those CQC oriented maps. I'm using my equipment, does that make me a real logi?

It's called playing differently. You should try it and not tell someone what how to play their class. Also, I answered this in the previous post.

In what part of this topic did I say anything about looking for encounters? I just want enough survivability to actually survive the occasional encounter with all my already existing disadvantages.

I already avoid combat when I need to unless there's someone in my way. It's not like I can politely ask that heavy guarding E to step aside so I can hack his objective.