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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.07.27 13:00:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Quick scoping is for fairies. And am glad that most FPS games keep away from that crap. Its OHK, but not reduced in range as a shotty is. which makes it a fairy prairie. Unfortunately, it kind of screws snipers in general because not a lot of maps actually favor classic sniping. Quick scoping was the only way for any sniper to properly defend themselves. It's not really impossible to snipe in CoD, it's just an unnecessary pain because the game doesn't cater to it. It's like having a dropsuit bonus for something still on the drawing board. |
SheDevil HeadShotten
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2013.07.27 13:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.gamespot.com/news/activision-criticises-immature-whiny-aholes-who-threaten-cod-devs-6411980
...Why would a nerf validate death threats to a developer is beyond me. Wow truly classic IWS. Basically the community you are representing you call a bunch of babies. Yet I have seen you complain on threads. |
Che Cortez
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.07.27 14:01:00 -
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Quoted from the link
When.. "someone scream in your face that since your mother didn't have an abortion, you should commit suicide instead?-á"
And in games this is the normal. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3486
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Posted - 2013.07.27 14:28:00 -
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Those whiny assholes wouldn't like New Eden if a simple balancing change to a sniper rifle gets them riled up. Imaging whiny assholes threatening CCP just because they got scammed in Jita and is not doing anything about it. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
1750
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Posted - 2013.07.27 14:36:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Surt gods end wrote:Quick scoping is for fairies. And am glad that most FPS games keep away from that crap. Its OHK, but not reduced in range as a shotty is. which makes it a fairy prairie. Unfortunately, it kind of screws snipers in general because not a lot of maps actually favor classic sniping. Quick scoping was the only way for any sniper to properly defend themselves. It's not really impossible to snipe in CoD, it's just an unnecessary pain because the game doesn't cater to it. It's like having a dropsuit bonus for something still on the drawing board.
That's NOT sniping. That's just using it like a standard AR and it's stupid becase "quick scoping" is so artificial that it makes it feel like an arcade game. Yech! |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3254
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Posted - 2013.07.27 14:50:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Cosgar wrote:Surt gods end wrote:Quick scoping is for fairies. And am glad that most FPS games keep away from that crap. Its OHK, but not reduced in range as a shotty is. which makes it a fairy prairie. Unfortunately, it kind of screws snipers in general because not a lot of maps actually favor classic sniping. Quick scoping was the only way for any sniper to properly defend themselves. It's not really impossible to snipe in CoD, it's just an unnecessary pain because the game doesn't cater to it. It's like having a dropsuit bonus for something still on the drawing board. That's NOT sniping. That's just using it like a standard AR and it's stupid becase "quick scoping" is so artificial that it makes it feel like an arcade game. Yech! That's the point. Maps are so bad for sniping in CoD, that everyone had to abuse a broken game mechanic that carried over from Quake, abuse it, and get really good at it to be competitive. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
390
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Posted - 2013.07.27 14:59:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.gamespot.com/news/activision-criticises-immature-whiny-aholes-who-threaten-cod-devs-6411980
...Why would a nerf validate death threats to a developer is beyond me. I agree ... the rest of the gaming world should take a lesson from the dust community and just threaten to quit while trolling the forms about how much the game sucks....you know take the high more mature road Better then telling the Devs to die!
Hell, we'd all be sad if SoxFour died.
No more forum Dev trolling. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
342
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:31:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:For anyone that doesn't know what the DSR nerf is, here's an example. For all I care, they should nerf it harder and add an inital sway. Quick scoping shouldn't be a thing and I've even seen newberries trying to do it in Dust 514. I thought cancer wasn't contagious.
That's ******* ridiculous. |
RoTTeN-1
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:37:00 -
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I would compare it to the TAC AR nerf. Every try hard in the game used and abused the TAC AR to the point that other people were using it as an "I win button" because the hipfire spread. After the nerf, there were a select few that still use it and deadly accurate with it. Single shot weapons will always dominate any FPS because of the player skill that goes into it. But since the range buff on all weapons, especially the full auto AR, the TAC AR is back to where it started in Chrome. It's still fun to use and effective, but when a regular AR can fire back out you from across the map, why bother?
You would compare it to the TAC.. Your a Fool. Its a OHK gun with Auto Aim when ADS. You posted the video. Do you think it takes any kinda of skill to point near the enemy, ADS and have auto aim track right to the head? But you compare the TAC to that Vid. your a moron. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3264
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:52:00 -
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RoTTeN-1 wrote: I would compare it to the TAC AR nerf. Every try hard in the game used and abused the TAC AR to the point that other people were using it as an "I win button" because the hipfire spread. After the nerf, there were a select few that still use it and deadly accurate with it. Single shot weapons will always dominate any FPS because of the player skill that goes into it. But since the range buff on all weapons, especially the full auto AR, the TAC AR is back to where it started in Chrome. It's still fun to use and effective, but when a regular AR can fire back out you from across the map, why bother?
You would compare it to the TAC.. Your a Fool. Its a OHK gun with Auto Aim when ADS. You posted the video. Do you think it takes any kinda of skill to point near the enemy, ADS and have auto aim track right to the head? But you compare the TAC to that Vid. your a moron.
I'm comparing it on the basis of a game mechanic being abused. The quick ADS transition in CoD is actually a carry over from Quake Arena, what CoD was built from. Over the years, maps got smaller and snipers had to find ways to adapt by quick scoping on enclosed maps. The flawed game mechanic got abused, just like the flaw with the TAC AR's tight hip fire spread and high ROF got abused until both were ultimately nerfed. I'm not saying that the both are the same in terms of damage at all, just designed purpose vs intended use going askew. |
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Croned
C0NTRA UNIT
362
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:04:00 -
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SheDevil HeadShotten wrote: Wow truly classic Iron Wolf Saber. Basically the community you are representing you call a bunch of babies. Yet I have seen you complain on threads.
Idiot. |
Pvt Numnutz
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
96
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Posted - 2013.07.28 01:50:00 -
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so many of our fellow dustbunnies could learn alot from this article. Thank you for the post iron wolf, its something that has been needed for quite a while now on these forums. Adapt, relearn, survive, improvise dont just whine. |
Pvt Numnutz
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
96
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Posted - 2013.07.28 01:51:00 -
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Croned wrote:SheDevil HeadShotten wrote: Wow truly classic Iron Wolf Saber. Basically the community you are representing you call a bunch of babies. Yet I have seen you complain on threads.
Idiot.
second, she devil you're an idiot |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
146
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:01:00 -
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I just read through this whole thread and there's not one mention of how a good segment ofthat video is of this guy shooting peope with a quick-scoping sniper rifle in what appears to have supposed been a knives-only game? |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
358
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.gamespot.com/news/activision-criticises-immature-whiny-aholes-who-threaten-cod-devs-6411980
...Why would a nerf validate death threats to a developer is beyond me. Bunch of lil kids in cod one great thing about dust |
Decasor
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
22
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:14:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:For anyone that doesn't know what the DSR nerf is, here's an example. For all I care, they should nerf it harder and add an inital sway. Quick scoping shouldn't be a thing and I've even seen newberries trying to do it in Dust 514. I thought cancer wasn't contagious.
That is seriously pathetic gameplay. And people complain sniping in DUST doesn't require skill.
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
599
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:18:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:For anyone that doesn't know what the DSR nerf is, here's an example. For all I care, they should nerf it harder and add an inital sway. Quick scoping shouldn't be a thing and I've even seen newberries trying to do it in Dust 514. I thought cancer wasn't contagious. wholly ****. new respect for dust |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
543
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:20:00 -
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Borderlands 2: Last year when "the Bee" was finally fixed(nerfed was the word used by those dependant) randy pitchfork recieved some nasty ass messages on twitter, threats etc. He even managed to call then E-terrorists lol |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
529
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.gamespot.com/news/activision-criticises-immature-whiny-aholes-who-threaten-cod-devs-6411980
...Why would a nerf validate death threats to a developer is beyond me.
I know I'm not a good player as you're because you play the game all the week but, let me ask you something.
How much time, do they need to spend in the game just to play with that weapon? How much time do they need to spend to use 1 item?
Just that. You will never stop being the best CCP's sucker (that's just my opinion, it doesn't need to be true)
See you. Kisses |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
95
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Posted - 2013.07.28 02:48:00 -
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Real talk, cod is a scrubby and simple pick up and play noobish shooter that somehow fooled people it was something new, zombies was good though |
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BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
239
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:17:00 -
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It's Call of Duty for god's sake. Their target audience is a bunch of self entitled teenage brats so of course they are going to act like idiots. I'm not very surprised.
Also, Counter Strike > CoD so neener neener neener! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6649
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:34:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.gamespot.com/news/activision-criticises-immature-whiny-aholes-who-threaten-cod-devs-6411980
...Why would a nerf validate death threats to a developer is beyond me. I know I'm not a good player as you're because you play the game all the week but, let me ask you something. How much time, do they need to spend in the game just to play with that weapon? How much time do they need to spend to use 1 item? Just that. You will never stop being the best CCP's bootlicker (that's just my opinion, it doesn't need to be true) See you. Kisses
In call of duty it only takes a day, majority of the hard core get max preteige within 1-2 months depending how hard it is to chain crap in that edition. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3311
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:43:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:I just read through this whole thread and there's not one mention of how a good segment ofthat video is of this guy shooting peope with a quick-scoping sniper rifle in what appears to have supposed been a knives-only game? It's not something that requires any skill. Sniper rifles have 0 sway at all and you can hit someone on just about any part of their body because the DSR does so much damage. CoD is nothing more than an arcade shooter fluffed up with a shade of realistic military tech. Keep in mind that when I say realistic, I mean from an aesthetic sense and not practical. Even though we have plasma weapons with futuristic power suits, Dust is way more realistic than CoD will ever be. Try quick scoping with a real DSR, you'll probably dislocate your shoulder and rupture your cornea. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:44:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:I just read through this whole thread and there's not one mention of how a good segment ofthat video is of this guy shooting peope with a quick-scoping sniper rifle in what appears to have supposed been a knives-only game? It's not something that requires any skill. Sniper rifles have 0 sway at all and you can hit someone on just about any part of their body because the DSR does so much damage. CoD is nothing more than an arcade shooter fluffed up with a shade of realistic military tech. Keep in mind that when I say realistic, I mean from an aesthetic sense and not practical. Even though we have plasma weapons with futuristic power suits, Dust is way more realistic than CoD will ever be. Try quick scoping with a real DSR, you'll probably dislocate your shoulder and rupture your cornea.
Shoulder? You're more likely to lose your trigger finger because you didn't shoulder it up in time. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:51:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:I just read through this whole thread and there's not one mention of how a good segment ofthat video is of this guy shooting peope with a quick-scoping sniper rifle in what appears to have supposed been a knives-only game? It's not something that requires any skill. Sniper rifles have 0 sway at all and you can hit someone on just about any part of their body because the DSR does so much damage. CoD is nothing more than an arcade shooter fluffed up with a shade of realistic military tech. Keep in mind that when I say realistic, I mean from an aesthetic sense and not practical. Even though we have plasma weapons with futuristic power suits, Dust is way more realistic than CoD will ever be. Try quick scoping with a real DSR, you'll probably dislocate your shoulder and rupture your cornea.
Even used correctly, high powered cartridges tend to cause massive pain after only a few shots - to the point of literally being physically harmful.
One of the Lapua cartridges used for sniping has a limit (5?) that it is advised not to exceed, in a day, or to risk reticule detachinment in they eyes. Also physical trauma to shoulders etc etc etc, particularly when fired from a resting position.
Most FPS are ridiculous in the extreme when it comes to realism.
(some of the high powered hand gun cartridges cause fractures in the wrist after considerable use - i'm thinking heavier Dan Wesson calibers and some of the more exotic rifle calibered handguns). |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3311
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Posted - 2013.07.28 03:57:00 -
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Karazantor wrote:Cosgar wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:I just read through this whole thread and there's not one mention of how a good segment ofthat video is of this guy shooting peope with a quick-scoping sniper rifle in what appears to have supposed been a knives-only game? It's not something that requires any skill. Sniper rifles have 0 sway at all and you can hit someone on just about any part of their body because the DSR does so much damage. CoD is nothing more than an arcade shooter fluffed up with a shade of realistic military tech. Keep in mind that when I say realistic, I mean from an aesthetic sense and not practical. Even though we have plasma weapons with futuristic power suits, Dust is way more realistic than CoD will ever be. Try quick scoping with a real DSR, you'll probably dislocate your shoulder and rupture your cornea. Even used correctly, high powered cartridges tend to cause massive pain after only a few shots - to the point of literally being physically harmful. One of the Lapua cartridges used for sniping has a limit (5?) that it is advised not to exceed, in a day, or to risk reticule detachinment in they eyes. Also physical trauma to shoulders etc etc etc, particularly when fired from a resting position. Most FPS are ridiculous in the extreme when it comes to realism. (some of the high powered hand gun cartridges cause fractures in the wrist after considerable use - i'm thinking heavier Dan Wesson calibers and some of the more exotic rifle calibered handguns). I think the only game that comes remotely close to doing real life sniping justice is Day Z. Maybe we'll get a bit more variety in the different types of sniping with the gauss rifle. From speculation, it looks like it might be ideal for scout sniping. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
192
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:13:00 -
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And people are surprised by this?
It is true the loudest posts are the obnoxious ones. The statement im about to make, i am in no way supporting how some of the CoD fans have reacted.
Take me for instance. Ive typed up many constructive posts that didnt have any negative criticism or even the slightest hint of sarcasm/trolling. And every single one of those good and thought out threads went overlooked as everyone else QQ'd about their FOTM weapon being nerfd or them wanting to have respecs. This is actually very irritating. People take time to make a very good post, only for it to be either ignored or turned into a flame war which probably has nothing to do with the threads topic.
After awhile there is no point in continuing really, the ones with intelligence quit the forums altogether... but the cynical ones like myself find enjoyment in irritating another person who i dont agree with by using sarcasm, logic, or nonsensical banter.
My point is, the only reason Activision even notices the obnoxious comments is because the majority is obviously nothing but idiots due to any number of reasons. And if a developer ever find themselves in a situation like this imo, it would be a good idea as a developer to change themselves.... not just by changing the games they make. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
530
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Posted - 2013.07.28 06:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.gamespot.com/news/activision-criticises-immature-whiny-aholes-who-threaten-cod-devs-6411980
...Why would a nerf validate death threats to a developer is beyond me. I know I'm not a good player as you're because you play the game all the week but, let me ask you something. How much time, do they need to spend in the game just to play with that weapon? How much time do they need to spend to use 1 item? Just that. You will never stop being the best CCP's bootlicker (that's just my opinion, it doesn't need to be true) See you. Kisses Unlocking the DSR? 20 minutes unlocks at lvl 4, quick scoping skill transfers from previous games as its a trained behavior not a perk. I don't know the point your post but whatever was I just blew it out of the water.
You're comparing 2 games that "change" an item. But in Dust, you play for weeks, months, etc, just to unlock 1 item and then CCP just change and they don't give a **** about the time that you spent while in other games, like the one that you post, you just need a day to get any weapon. So, I think you're making a stupid comparisson trying to say "changes don't happen just in Dust and Dust do care about your time, that's why they say I'm sorry every time that they **** you from behind" |
Rupture Reaperson
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
259
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Posted - 2013.07.28 07:37:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I find it kinda funny Activision says this about their target audience Wanna have a belly laughter? Check this. Comments section, they are actual people who think that activision worked "hard" on the latest CoD.
That one made my day. |
Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
65
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Posted - 2013.07.28 09:17:00 -
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Lik dis if u crie evertim :c |
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