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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
129
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:20:00 -
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OK you introduce PC which is just an expensive version of Chromosome's Corp battle. You offer no way to practice this game. If you brought back the corp battle system, not only would this allow people to prepare for PC it would also allow people to create interesting new battles on their own. Tank battles, Dog Fights, ETC. Your current limited in game entertainment (same 3 games) is part of why so many people are leaving this games in droves. So since you have said don't plan to offer private matches anytime soon. Bringing back the old System of corp battles with 16 players (I'd prefer 16 but would settle for 8) would help with the general boredom people are experiencing with this game. It would more importantly help corps get experience with PC, which is TOTALLY different then public matches.
Please post here to endorse this petition.
Thanks. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
72
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:21:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:OK you introduce PC which is just an expensive version of Chromosome' Corp battle. You offer no way to practice this game. Not only would this allow people to prepare for PC it would also allow people to create interesting new battles on their own. Tank battles, Dog Fights, ETC. Your current limited in game entertainment (same 3 games) is part of why so many people are leaving this games in droves. So since you have said don't plan to offer private matches anytime soon. Bringing back the old System of corp battles with 16 players (I'd prefer 16 but would settle for 8) would help with the general boredom people are experiencing with this game. IT would more importantly help corps get experience with PC, which is TOTALLY different the public matches.
Please post here to endorse this petition.
Thanks. signed. i agree. 100%. |
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:26:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:OK you introduce PC which is just an expensive version of Chromosome's Corp battle. You offer no way to practice this game. If you brought back the corp battle system, not only would this allow people to prepare for PC it would also allow people to create interesting new battles on their own. Tank battles, Dog Fights, ETC. Your current limited in game entertainment (same 3 games) is part of why so many people are leaving this games in droves. So since you have said don't plan to offer private matches anytime soon. Bringing back the old System of corp battles with 16 players (I'd prefer 16 but would settle for 8) would help with the general boredom people are experiencing with this game. It would more importantly help corps get experience with PC, which is TOTALLY different then public matches.
Please post here to endorse this petition.
Thanks.
"Signed" Corp battles were very fun and would be an AWSOME training ground for PC battles so we can have battles without half our team afking in the redline!! |
Blammmo
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
154
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:27:00 -
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Yes, bring them back and quit trying to force people to play your broken PC |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1930
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:29:00 -
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As much as I would like to see it...
... how many of these "petitions" have had any impact at all in development? |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1239
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:36:00 -
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This is actually in the works, dudebros.
PETITION SUCCESSFUL!
No, but seriously. This has been something we've been chatting about with Team True Grit for the past little while, is ways to bring back corp battles that don't involve restrictive timers or massive costs. Ways for corps to just throw down, and maybe get something out of the process.
Be it raiding without challenging districts, a flat out 'challenge' option or what have you.
But basically... They want these back too. We want them back. Everyone wants them back. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
131
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:46:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:This is actually in the works, dudebros.
PETITION SUCCESSFUL!
No, but seriously. This has been something we've been chatting about with Team True Grit for the past little while, is ways to bring back corp battles that don't involve restrictive timers or massive costs. Ways for corps to just throw down, and maybe get something out of the process.
Be it raiding without challenging districts, a flat out 'challenge' option or what have you.
But basically... They want these back too. We want them back. Everyone wants them back
Edit : So, since this is something being actively discussed... Now is the time to make "CCP, DO IT LIKE THIS" posts, to give the CPM stuff to throw at CCP. WTB Corp battle thread. Go!
What is the time frame on this?? I know private matches has a 1 year time frame announced in may. Just asking. I mean they only have to bring back something they already had. |
Colonel Killar
Corprate Raiders
170
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Posted - 2013.07.26 05:50:00 -
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As a CEO I'd love these for taining once my corp begins to gind into full swing and Foxfour and the rest of True Grit |
calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
127
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Posted - 2013.07.26 06:37:00 -
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+1 please bring it back. I would love to see this again. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
26082
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:07:00 -
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While CCP Nullarbor works on the new matchmaking system we are working on the design of an enhanced squads system that would let you queue entire teams for Factional Warfare. While it won't come out with the new matchmaking CCP Nullarbor is developing the new matchmaking to allow full team queueing for Factional Warfare.
The idea being that if you can take an entire team and queue for Factional Warfare you should allow you to go corp versus corp so long as you both have 2 full teams. Since there won't be that many full teams queueing at the same time if you want to fight a specific team you should be able to queue sync easily.
While this is obviously not perfect and only partially covers what you are seeking we feel it is a better first step in that direction as it covers more people and does more for the game. We can then look at actual corp versus corp again later.
Hope that helps! :D |
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Adelia Lafayette
DUST University Ivy League
135
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:13:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:While CCP Nullarbor works on the new matchmaking system we are working on the design of an enhanced squads system that would let you queue entire teams for Factional Warfare. While it won't come out with the new matchmaking CCP Nullarbor is developing the new matchmaking to allow full team queueing for Factional Warfare.
The idea being that if you can take an entire team and queue for Factional Warfare you should allow you to go corp versus corp so long as you both have 2 full teams. Since there won't be that many full teams queueing at the same time if you want to fight a specific team you should be able to queue sync easily.
While this is obviously not perfect and only partially covers what you are seeking we feel it is a better first step in that direction as it covers more people and does more for the game. We can then look at actual corp versus corp again later.
Hope that helps! :D
This sounds good too. And hopefully team size gets bumped up to 20v20 :D |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
26083
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:15:00 -
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Adelia Lafayette wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:While CCP Nullarbor works on the new matchmaking system we are working on the design of an enhanced squads system that would let you queue entire teams for Factional Warfare. While it won't come out with the new matchmaking CCP Nullarbor is developing the new matchmaking to allow full team queueing for Factional Warfare.
The idea being that if you can take an entire team and queue for Factional Warfare you should allow you to go corp versus corp so long as you both have 2 full teams. Since there won't be that many full teams queueing at the same time if you want to fight a specific team you should be able to queue sync easily.
While this is obviously not perfect and only partially covers what you are seeking we feel it is a better first step in that direction as it covers more people and does more for the game. We can then look at actual corp versus corp again later.
Hope that helps! :D This sounds good too. And hopefully team size gets bumped up to 20v20 :D
You are not the only one! :D |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
736
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:22:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:While CCP Nullarbor works on the new matchmaking system we are working on the design of an enhanced squads system that would let you queue entire teams for Factional Warfare. While it won't come out with the new matchmaking CCP Nullarbor is developing the new matchmaking to allow full team queueing for Factional Warfare.
The idea being that if you can take an entire team and queue for Factional Warfare you should allow you to go corp versus corp so long as you both have 2 full teams. Since there won't be that many full teams queueing at the same time if you want to fight a specific team you should be able to queue sync easily.
While this is obviously not perfect and only partially covers what you are seeking we feel it is a better first step in that direction as it covers more people and does more for the game. We can then look at actual corp versus corp again later.
Hope that helps! :D
Please don't just add team deploy to FW. For some reason you think teams won't be queuing at the same time, lol.
The 4 per hour that pop up fill up within 5 seconds.
Please don't over think it. Just add corp battles, pretty please! |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
736
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:23:00 -
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And I've done this 5 times with no response.
I'm going to start using petition in my subject lines |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
398
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:24:00 -
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Any chance to have a way of "telling" the matchmaker to setup duel for particular mercenaries or corporations in pub match? Or maybe rent clones from owned district and stage the corp battle on that district? Instead of invading it... For less ISK... |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
26093
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:While CCP Nullarbor works on the new matchmaking system we are working on the design of an enhanced squads system that would let you queue entire teams for Factional Warfare. While it won't come out with the new matchmaking CCP Nullarbor is developing the new matchmaking to allow full team queueing for Factional Warfare.
The idea being that if you can take an entire team and queue for Factional Warfare you should allow you to go corp versus corp so long as you both have 2 full teams. Since there won't be that many full teams queueing at the same time if you want to fight a specific team you should be able to queue sync easily.
While this is obviously not perfect and only partially covers what you are seeking we feel it is a better first step in that direction as it covers more people and does more for the game. We can then look at actual corp versus corp again later.
Hope that helps! :D Please don't just add team deploy to FW. For some reason you think teams won't be queuing at the same time, lol. The 4 per hour that pop up fill up within 5 seconds. Please don't over think it. Just add corp battles, pretty please!
Right now the way faction warfare works is we spin up 4 battles, when those fill we start spinning up more basically 1 at a time as all matches are full. It's not the best way that is for sure.
What we want to change it to though is an actual queueing system where you can take an entire team, click queue, and you wait until there is another team or enough players to make up a team queued and then we start a server for you. So if two full teams click go at near the same time it should near instantly start a battle.
That make sense? |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
26093
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:42:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:And I've done this 5 times with no response.
I'm going to start using petition in my subject lines
Sorry, this just happened to be the one I saw at a time I was in a responding mood and at a time where we are getting designs more and more finalized. There is a very good chance that I saw one of your old ones and was either just in an eh responding mood or we just were not ready to talk about it. I can say though that chances are very high I or one of the others on the team here read it. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5483
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:44:00 -
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While I like the idea of being able to queue up a full team for FW, it doesn't really address the desire to just have fun.
Easy to set up corp battles that don't cost an arm and a leg were the closest thing we had to being able to set up games on our own terms. It let us do things like dropship only battles, or having 16 guys with nova knives chasing 3 guys with normal guns. It makes practices easier, since you can set up matches with allies easier.
Basically, it made the game more fun.
Why were they removed to begin with? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
845
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:44:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:While CCP Nullarbor works on the new matchmaking system we are working on the design of an enhanced squads system that would let you queue entire teams for Factional Warfare. While it won't come out with the new matchmaking CCP Nullarbor is developing the new matchmaking to allow full team queueing for Factional Warfare.
The idea being that if you can take an entire team and queue for Factional Warfare you should allow you to go corp versus corp so long as you both have 2 full teams. Since there won't be that many full teams queueing at the same time if you want to fight a specific team you should be able to queue sync easily.
While this is obviously not perfect and only partially covers what you are seeking we feel it is a better first step in that direction as it covers more people and does more for the game. We can then look at actual corp versus corp again later.
Hope that helps! :D Please don't just add team deploy to FW. For some reason you think teams won't be queuing at the same time, lol. The 4 per hour that pop up fill up within 5 seconds. Please don't over think it. Just add corp battles, pretty please! Right now the way faction warfare works is we spin up 4 battles, when those fill we start spinning up more basically 1 at a time as all matches are full. It's not the best way that is for sure. What we want to change it to though is an actual queueing system where you can take an entire team, click queue, and you wait until there is another team or enough players to make up a team queued and then we start a server for you. So if two full teams click go at near the same time it should near instantly start a battle. That make sense? But corp matches should affect the FW scene that just hurts the player base that actually cares about FW and its outcomes because the corps will join a random team, stack, and win or lose on a near constant basic invalidating all of one corps or anothers efforts to shift the system modifiers to their selected factions benefit. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
399
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:(...)But corp matches should affect the FW scene that just hurts the player base that actually cares about FW and its outcomes because the corps will join a random team, stack, and win or lose on a near constant basic invalidating all of one corps or anothers efforts to shift the system modifiers to their selected factions benefit. I was wondering when you show up Wanted to point this out myself... |
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
138
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:55:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:
Right now the way faction warfare works is we spin up 4 battles, when those fill we start spinning up more basically 1 at a time as all matches are full. It's not the best way that is for sure.
What we want to change it to though is an actual queueing system where you can take an entire team, click queue, and you wait until there is another team or enough players to make up a team queued and then we start a server for you. So if two full teams click go at near the same time it should near instantly start a battle.
That make sense?
This isn't what this petition is about. Seriously more FW battles is something that should've happened months ago. There should be a list of partially full and empty battles you can join at any given time. I don't see why you couldn't make that happen in a few days if you wanted to, the only change you would have to make is how frequently the battles spawn.
This solution you have outlined here while being a small step in the right direction. This will help practice for PC battles. It doesn't cover the fun aspect of the petition. Since you are not providing new and interesting ways to play the game, anytime soon. We want to be able to setup our own closed games, we can set the rules verbally and then play them, as we choose to. We do not require rewards for these games. Bringing back the old corp battle system seems the fastest and easiest way to make this happen.
Ideally what we would want is what is customizable private matches. No one however wants or is going to wait for v2.0 for this to happen, while drowning in the current repetitive environment. So I think bring back the old Corp Battles would be the easiest and fastest solution for both Programmer and Player. |
Raelar Knight
Chaotic-Intent
4
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:54:00 -
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Really should have kept the Beta moniker. Google kept Gmail beta for a decade, lol.
How hard is it to build a few more play modes (CTF? How does a modern shooter not have all the classic bases covered?) and just have some modified queuing to let your team play? To get it right takes time but hell you already have enough broken bits, at least throw some more in so we can dance on the broken bits in fun. You're talking about not even really getting a handle on queuing until 1.5. I haven't heard a whisper about playstyles yet. I'm happy you've got a 5 year vision but dayum.
Beta beta beta beta.. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
848
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Posted - 2013.07.27 01:00:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:True Adamance wrote:(...)But corp matches should affect the FW scene that just hurts the player base that actually cares about FW and its outcomes because the corps will join a random team, stack, and win or lose on a near constant basis invalidating all of one corps or anothers efforts to shift the system modifiers to their selected factions benefit. I was wondering when you show up Wanted to point this out myself...
Thanks the proof reading on this post was done ......abominably.... I am ashamed to have concocted such poor language. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
290
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Posted - 2013.07.27 01:10:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:OK you introduce PC which is just an expensive version of Chromosome's Corp battle. You offer no way to practice this game. If you brought back the corp battle system, not only would this allow people to prepare for PC it would also allow people to create interesting new battles on their own. Tank battles, Dog Fights, ETC. Your current limited in game entertainment (same 3 games) is part of why so many people are leaving this games in droves. So since you have said don't plan to offer private matches anytime soon. Bringing back the old System of corp battles with 16 players (I'd prefer 16 but would settle for 8) would help with the general boredom people are experiencing with this game. It would more importantly help corps get experience with PC, which is TOTALLY different then public matches.
Please post here to endorse this petition.
Thanks.
Don't worry even IF they brought back CBs your corp wouldn't participate anyway. Most you guys that are crying for CBs didn't participate in them anyways. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
140
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:06:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:
Don't worry even IF they brought back CBs your corp wouldn't participate anyway. Most you guys that are crying for CBs didn't participate in them anyways.
lol |
Major Lee High
Battle Response Organizations
63
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:33:00 -
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So will we be able to queue for what faction we want? Attack/Defend? Solo players and squads too? |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
703
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:39:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:While CCP Nullarbor works on the new matchmaking system we are working on the design of an enhanced squads system that would let you queue entire teams for Factional Warfare. While it won't come out with the new matchmaking CCP Nullarbor is developing the new matchmaking to allow full team queueing for Factional Warfare.
The idea being that if you can take an entire team and queue for Factional Warfare you should allow you to go corp versus corp so long as you both have 2 full teams. Since there won't be that many full teams queueing at the same time if you want to fight a specific team you should be able to queue sync easily.
While this is obviously not perfect and only partially covers what you are seeking we feel it is a better first step in that direction as it covers more people and does more for the game. We can then look at actual corp versus corp again later.
Hope that helps! :D
This sounds like a decent temporary workaround to do this... but people already que sync FW.. we want actual full , planned corp on corp battles that each side knows who they going up against. So PLEASE do not settle on this being the only way for a long time. Your work is much appreciated, thanks |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
144
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:42:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:
Don't worry even IF they brought back CBs your corp wouldn't participate anyway. Most you guys that are crying for CBs didn't participate in them anyways.
lol I will setup 20-30 in the first week, half will be just for fun battles. Tanks only Dogfights ETC.
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Exergonic
TeamPlayers EoN.
256
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:44:00 -
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I love the idea of putting full team queue in FW (Would be even better if we got LP for them)
But the corp battle idea is something totally different... Instead of corps having to wait for a FW to pop they can just grab a 8v8/16v16 fight and really put their money where there mouth is (Being able to wager battles)
Think of it more as a "Fight club" (much like what most major alliances put together from the absence of instant corp battles)
I would still stick with the contract system for corp battles... mostly for those that just want practice and are brave enough to just throw up a contract
Wagers being placed + protos being lost = ISK still destroyed |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
299
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:55:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:While CCP Nullarbor works on the new matchmaking system we are working on the design of an enhanced squads system that would let you queue entire teams for Factional Warfare. While it won't come out with the new matchmaking CCP Nullarbor is developing the new matchmaking to allow full team queueing for Factional Warfare.
The idea being that if you can take an entire team and queue for Factional Warfare you should allow you to go corp versus corp so long as you both have 2 full teams. Since there won't be that many full teams queueing at the same time if you want to fight a specific team you should be able to queue sync easily.
While this is obviously not perfect and only partially covers what you are seeking we feel it is a better first step in that direction as it covers more people and does more for the game. We can then look at actual corp versus corp again later.
Hope that helps! :D Please don't just add team deploy to FW. For some reason you think teams won't be queuing at the same time, lol. The 4 per hour that pop up fill up within 5 seconds. Please don't over think it. Just add corp battles, pretty please! Right now the way faction warfare works is we spin up 4 battles, when those fill we start spinning up more basically 1 at a time as all matches are full. It's not the best way that is for sure. What we want to change it to though is an actual queueing system where you can take an entire team, click queue, and you wait until there is another team or enough players to make up a team queued and then we start a server for you. So if two full teams click go at near the same time it should near instantly start a battle. That make sense?
With how random FW is, I'd think it'll be a pain to queue 2 stacked teams at the same time. Most of the time there's a chance a random player gets into the match, thus making the full team unable to join, while if another team has already joined, the other side will be composed of random or small squads, which will lead into pubstomp. And yes FW matches start to get full fast with random players. Corp battles is the easiest solution and way to go. If you make corp battles have an effect in FW, then it'll be more interesting.
-XOXO
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