I keep hearing the Urban map request. What would an urban map provide, functionally that we don't have in our current maps.


Please don't open the MQ door. Its Richmond's room. Richmond is not supposed to be out of his room. :)

I keep hearing the Urban map request. What would an urban map provide, functionally that we don't have in our current maps.


Please don't open the MQ door. Its Richmond's room. Richmond is not supposed to be out of his room. :)

I keep hearing the Urban map request. What would an urban map provide, functionally that we don't have in our current maps.


Please don't open the MQ door. Its Richmond's room. Richmond is not supposed to be out of his room. :)

I keep hearing the Urban map request. What would an urban map provide, functionally that we don't have in our current maps.


Please don't open the MQ door. Its Richmond's room. Richmond is not supposed to be out of his room. :)

Impossible

CCPs doors never open.

Urban maps would be cool though.

I keep hearing the Urban map request. What would an urban map provide, functionally that we don't have in our current maps.

It all has to do with the arrangement of cover. Currently, a lot of the maps seem to be based on large areas of plains and a central complex where all the cover is. And it gets homogeneous sometimes.

Functionally, an urban map could reverse this.

Example: Think of a domination game mode of an urban area centered around a central exposed area; say a park with no trees and with rivers. In the center of the park is the capture point surrounded by a "no man's land". Those advancing towards the capture point hide from each other in the river depressions in the park, but are still perfectly vulnerable to high LOS buildings. This means that instead of a capture point functioning as the centerpiece of combat, it functions as the bait for a massacre. This pushes the importance to the high ground surrounding the no man's land.

Now, let's say, that there are very few "hot spot" multi-story buildings whose main advantage is undisputed LOS to this center arena and the other hot spots. This means that smart squads would move to those spots and fight over them. Some would specialize in shotguns to clear out these hot spots, other to prox mine the entrances to try and keep those shotgunners out, and even other to take advantage of the great LOS to kill people in the opposing hot spot and capture point. But these points will always be vulnerable due to their being surrounded in close quarters by other buildings.

Conclusion: In this case the redistribution of cover and the exposed nature of the capture point is opposite to the way many maps work currently, and this reversal makes these maps functionally opposite with the emphasis being on taking high ground around the capture points instead of taking the capture points themselves. Buildings provide an overhead cover that make these clearly overpowered high-ground buildings possible and, at the same time, walls funneling people into doors and windows encourage more CQC, clever use of explosives, and multi-level combat. This tradeoff between the close quarters required to capture these "hot spots" and the long range effectiveness to take advantage of them makes for extremely creative gameplay, encourages group play, and would be a welcome break from the current Dust map-making philosophy

Note: The hot spots could also serve as their own capture points in skirmish, and the exposed nature of the "no man's land" favors dropships to tanks (for once).

I would kill for an urban map. Like literally - give me a name.

EDIT. I will cry the whole time but still, a deal is a deal.

In keeping with the OP's comment about gates, another urban map could be a central walled complex with a market in a depression (think megaton from fallout) in the middle of this complex surrounded by a desert. A gate would be placed very close to the market and a large, wide road lined with un-enterable buildings (the purpose of all of this to give the tank a perfect LOS into the market and the ground-level buildings around it) leading to the market.

To other sides of the market there would be multi-story buildings, one of which has the gate control at the top. The top of this building being extremely exposed.

The general idea behind this map is to entice players to drive a tank into this road and massacre everyone defending the central point. Given one central gate, the tank from each team will have to duke it out outside the complex to decide the winner. The losing team of this tank-brawl, seeing that their HAV lost, will scurry to close the gate and prevent the tank from entering or locking it into CQC with the enemy team. The exposed gate control at the top of the building also entices dropship pilots to drop pilots directly onto this point, or massacre anyone capturing/defending this point.

I keep hearing the Urban map request. What would an urban map provide, functionally that we don't have in our current maps.


Please don't open the MQ door. Its Richmond's room. Richmond is not supposed to be out of his room. :)

Vertical and more means to get from point A to point B. Currently with the sockets if we want to get from one place to another we have to travel through a long stretch of flat land which can be hazardous especially with all the vehicles. With an urban map you could still have wide streets for vehicles but also buildings that we can run through or on top of parallel to the streets and other passages like perhaps subway systems or over-street railways that will get you from one base to another. It will give you the option of whether you want to take a mid/long range engagement approach or a close quarter approach while moving about.

That sounds great in theory but what would actually happen would be something like this:
A) Tank enters city, enemy infantry weave through building interiors to be near the tank without it seeing them. They lay down nanohives then spam AV nades, tank dead.
B) Tank makes it to center of city for epic tank dual, tank is wasted by forge gunners on building room tops. Tank is dead.
C) Tank gets stuck on glitchy terrain and dies to a light pole.

In my opinion MAVs and LAVs would be the kings of vehicle CQC just from the sheer perspective that they should be able to much better avoid all 3 of those problems.

So, shotgun scout's paradise?