Well, not right now, but Soon(TM) as soon as people realize how to use them.
Lone heavies aren't a big deal, you have a big clip to deal with them, and you usually take them down with one or one and a half.
But that's because you can focus on one.


Imagine 5 rushing your team of 5 assaults.
And remember, the 5 heavies are shooting at you at the same time.

It will be a slaughter, the medium frame drop way quickly, so they can concentrate on one, drop him, move to the next, drop him, move to the next, etc'.

By the time they bring down one heavy, the medium frames are already toast.

It's like the difference between having to take down 1 tank and 5 tanks.
Even if you had unlimited AV, if they are together it will be a pain in the arse.

I was in a squad with another logi and 4 heavies. The amount of kills these guys got just by holding down a null point on the enemy redline was insane. Imagine if we ran together in an ambush...

...I think I just peed a little.

Well, not right now, but Soon(TM) as soon as people realize how to use them.
Lone heavies aren't a big deal, you have a big clip to deal with them, and you usually take them down with one or one and a half.
But that's because you can focus on one.


Imagine 5 rushing your team of 5 assaults.
And remember, the 5 heavies are shooting at you at the same time.

It will be a slaughter, the medium frame drop way quickly, so they can concentrate on one, drop him, move to the next, drop him, move to the next, etc'.

By the time they bring down one heavy, the medium frames are already toast.

It's like the difference between having to take down 1 tank and 5 tanks.
Even if you had unlimited AV, if they are together it will be a pain in the arse.

Well, not right now, but Soon(TM) as soon as people realize how to use them.
Lone heavies aren't a big deal, you have a big clip to deal with them, and you usually take them down with one or one and a half.
But that's because you can focus on one.


Imagine 5 rushing your team of 5 assaults.
And remember, the 5 heavies are shooting at you at the same time.

It will be a slaughter, the medium frame drop way quickly, so they can concentrate on one, drop him, move to the next, drop him, move to the next, etc'.

By the time they bring down one heavy, the medium frames are already toast.

It's like the difference between having to take down 1 tank and 5 tanks.
Even if you had unlimited AV, if they are together it will be a pain in the arse.

well i've actually done that with 4 heavies before. the amount of kills we get was crazy, someone decided to drop a orbital strike on us coz they were pissed at us.

AR's still have the range advantage, and if equal numbers of heavies and assault meet, the assaults only need to go for a jog in different directions to break the effectiveness of the horde.

Either that or just lob in a pair of fluxes and four core locus grenades and kill them all without even needing to fire an AR.

exactly!

Is there anything stopping a heavy from using the AR?
Also, grenades are OP and spammable, I hate them, I should make a thread about them some day.

Turn radius being tied to dropsuit frame size puts the heavy at a disadvantage with the AR I think.

Well, not right now, but Soon(TM) as soon as people realize how to use them.
Lone heavies aren't a big deal, you have a big clip to deal with them, and you usually take them down with one or one and a half.
But that's because you can focus on one.


Imagine 5 rushing your team of 5 assaults.
And remember, the 5 heavies are shooting at you at the same time.

It will be a slaughter, the medium frame drop way quickly, so they can concentrate on one, drop him, move to the next, drop him, move to the next, etc'.

By the time they bring down one heavy, the medium frames are already toast.

It's like the difference between having to take down 1 tank and 5 tanks.
Even if you had unlimited AV, if they are together it will be a pain in the arse.

So you're saying the Heavy has a movement speed that is too high?

Cat Merc, I support your assertion that the Heavy needs to move slower.

CCP, Dooooooooooooo eeeeeeeeettttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is there anything stopping a heavy from using the AR?
Also, grenades are OP and spammable, I hate them, I should make a thread about them some day.

Oh and core locus grenades?
Yeah, they one shot my Gallente assault.

Wolfman said he's removing that
Also, it's tied to speed, not frame size, my Gallente medium frame turns as slow as a heavy

Well, not right now, but Soon(TM) as soon as people realize how to use them.
Lone heavies aren't a big deal, you have a big clip to deal with them, and you usually take them down with one or one and a half.
But that's because you can focus on one.


Imagine 5 rushing your team of 5 assaults.
And remember, the 5 heavies are shooting at you at the same time.

It will be a slaughter, the medium frame drop way quickly, so they can concentrate on one, drop him, move to the next, drop him, move to the next, etc'.

By the time they bring down one heavy, the medium frames are already toast.

It's like the difference between having to take down 1 tank and 5 tanks.
Even if you had unlimited AV, if they are together it will be a pain in the arse.

A heavy trying to strafe vs an assault is going to chewed up. Slower, worse turn radius, can't jump as high while reloading, lower movement speed.

Flux and Nade will drop a batch of heavies, so your tactic is invalid.

I think we have settled this. Unless you want to change the title to "If I am running solo in a pub a squad of heavies could scare me"

Either that or spec into a mass driver. Flux and Mass = many dead heavies.

You overestimate the speed difference.
Now that strafe speeds have been increased, a strafing heavy can still be a pain if the guy behind it is good

That combo drops any suit, heck you don't even need a Flux.
Your argument is invalid.

Flux and nade can be less than ideal when trying to target fast moving suits, Cal logis with Kin cats, or any socut suit.

Flux and mass can have the same problem. Well maybe an assault mass driver and allotek flux can catch a scout.

Against heavies though, either of those solutions is an almost assured kill. So if your cluster of heavies can be solo'd by a logi with a mass driver, it isn't really effective.

Commando squads are the ones to fear

I got a good laugh out of this.

Me too

unless you're walking around a corner and get surprised at close range, heavies are not that scary. I just view them as AR/SMG sponges.