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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3123
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:56:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Jack Boost wrote:Heavy vs any dropsuit (I talk about dropsuit alone here) are very underpowered. At militia/standard vs other is ok... but only at begginning of your journey (ppl dont have enough firepower). At adv level only with maxed skils at dropsuit upgrades you can do.. at last something. At proto vs proto.. you will suffer every time. (I will dont write here why... read forum - tons of threads)
CCP make description for item very misleading. Dont read this. This is only for some imersion, but nothing to do with situation at battlefield. Ppl are very disapointed when 'almost vehicle' dropsuit is... like trash can than everyone can make hole like melon.
Now back to sentinel vs basic.
Cost visely: sentinel - not much but always.
Proto?: my advise dont use. Yes it is fun and little more powerful, but cost and vs another proto... sucks.
Basic slot layout vs Sentinel sentinel layout: I use sentinel for omni tank. You probably will use basic slot layout for more dmg modules ... and dmg here is everyting ;)
Heavy is hard... but from my expirence sometimes only one thing that change tides of war.
CU on field. Read with a Russian accent and it all makes sense. Where have you been? The legendary AR heavy!
Just did, makes more sense now. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3130
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:30:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Sentinel gets extra low slots, use them all for your best armor plating. No armor reps, so have a guy in your squad with a repair tool and have someone drop a few wiyrkomi triage nanohives around. Yeah it'll make you slow, but don't worry because your role is point defense. Don't want to play point defense? Well then you probably shouldn't of chosen the sentinel.
Needless to say, I've seen some sentinels in my squad do an amazing job defending an objective against massive waves of enemies. horrible advice. Where does it say I'm supposed to rely on a logi 100% of the time. I'm a heavy, I don't play defense, get over it. lol @ the no armor reppers. It's like you're just giving advice to die. Thanks for my laugh of the day.
Yeah I seen your heavy. Its scary as hell, but Aero has a point, sure you don't have to rely on a logi, but when you do his fit comes into its own. And since our corp essentially focuses on all Amarrian gear, all amarrian playstyles, and general armour tanking doctrines.... he kind of does know what he is talking about.
I can speak for other solo heavies, or corps that run a mixture of shield and armour suits.... but it works for us. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3135
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:07:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:True Adamance wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Sentinel gets extra low slots, use them all for your best armor plating. No armor reps, so have a guy in your squad with a repair tool and have someone drop a few wiyrkomi triage nanohives around. Yeah it'll make you slow, but don't worry because your role is point defense. Don't want to play point defense? Well then you probably shouldn't of chosen the sentinel.
Needless to say, I've seen some sentinels in my squad do an amazing job defending an objective against massive waves of enemies. horrible advice. Where does it say I'm supposed to rely on a logi 100% of the time. I'm a heavy, I don't play defense, get over it. lol @ the no armor reppers. It's like you're just giving advice to die. Thanks for my laugh of the day. Yeah I seen your heavy. Its scary as hell, but Aero has a point, sure you don't have to rely on a logi, but when you do his fit comes into its own. And since our corp essentially focuses on all Amarrian gear, all amarrian playstyles, and general armour tanking doctrines.... he kind of does know what he is talking about. I can speak for other solo heavies, or corps that run a mixture of shield and armour suits.... but it works for us. If you have a logibro following you around then by all means armor stack but telling someone to run no reps is a death sentence. what good is 1600hp if I cant rep it myself when my logi is engaged elsewhere? I definitely see the point of having a logi and I have a suit loadout just for the special occasion I do have a logi with me, but my point is it still has my own reps on it, at least one complex repper (or equivalent) is required at all times to be any sort of sustainable heavy.
Oh I know its a death sentence for any armour tanker solo, having some small armour reps is a must, but a logi with a proto rep tool should and can easily keep you in the fight, you are vastly more likely to survive IMO with that logi's reps, a high HP ceiling, and you HMG. Logi should not be busy elsewhere otherwise they aren't doing their job well enough.
E.G- Chuck am Active Scanner, a Armour Repping HIve, or the dual hive, and the proto rep tool. You will never die, see all of your enemies, and be kept in Ammo and HP should the logi die. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3142
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:07:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:
All logis will be pre-occupied with something else at some point. The point of a logi with a repper is to keep them alive, that doesn't entail having the repper shoved up my ass the whole time though. What if I need him shooting at people too? Even a logi with a proto repper can't keep me alive against a stacked duvolle, it just doesn't happen. I personally run 3 complex reppers on my suit and I have to tell you it keeps me alive very, very well.
Before they changed the skill reqs. I had an AUR proto sentinel suit I was playing around with that had two complex armor reppers and two complex shield regulators and I have to say that worked damn well too. Dual tanking is always frowned upon for some reason but it worked well for me.
That's why you have the Repping Hives. Keep you able to fall back to reps as you need them. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3146
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:49:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:True Adamance wrote:MassiveNine wrote:
All logis will be pre-occupied with something else at some point. The point of a logi with a repper is to keep them alive, that doesn't entail having the repper shoved up my ass the whole time though. What if I need him shooting at people too? Even a logi with a proto repper can't keep me alive against a stacked duvolle, it just doesn't happen. I personally run 3 complex reppers on my suit and I have to tell you it keeps me alive very, very well.
Before they changed the skill reqs. I had an AUR proto sentinel suit I was playing around with that had two complex armor reppers and two complex shield regulators and I have to say that worked damn well too. Dual tanking is always frowned upon for some reason but it worked well for me.
That's why you have the Repping Hives. Keep you able to fall back to reps as you need them. Ok, I understand what you are saying. But lets face it, you aren't always going to have an armor hive sitting behind you. In a perfect world I would have one everywhere all the time but it just doesn't happen like that.
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