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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2013.07.25 10:09:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:I think CCP is worrying about WP farming... and rightly so. If that things you talking about are implemented, you will see people with 5000 - 6000 wp by the end of the match.. they could potentially get a couple of orbitals by their own. Oh no! They might actually get through their weekly cap faster by playing than AFK. The horror.
This won't fix AFKing ...it will just make it more elaborate ; The Art Of AFKing, By CCP publications. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
398
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Posted - 2013.07.25 10:42:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I know, but you understand that in match this thing are usefull, nobody like to be not rewarded for doing his job, maybe they have to implement a separated wp system to reward logistic players and instead of an orbital when you reach 2500 Logi Point you have a 10 second scansion of all the map or another buff.
Says who? Why do you need a "pat on your back" or recognition for doing something that is in the best interest of you and the team? That doesn't make any sense... |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
356
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:21:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:shaman oga wrote:I know, but you understand that in match this thing are usefull, nobody like to be not rewarded for doing his job, maybe they have to implement a separated wp system to reward logistic players and instead of an orbital when you reach 2500 Logi Point you have a 10 second scansion of all the map or another buff. Says who? Why do you need a "pat on your back" or recognition for doing something that is in the best interest of you and the team? That doesn't make any sense...
The game is based on rewards, if you don't want to reward useful actions maybe they have to eliminate all the wp system, is that what you suggest? |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
777
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:22:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I know, but you understand that in match this thing are usefull, nobody like to be not rewarded for doing his job, maybe they have to implement a separated wp system to reward logistic players and instead of an orbital when you reach 2500 Logi Point you have a 10 second scansion of all the map or another buff.
I don't believe every action deserves WP. Do it to win, to better your reputation and pride. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
66
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:32:00 -
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I agree that not everything should give WP but the problem comes when you skill into a role that does not give WP e.g Dropshippilots or scouts. Because they get no WP for performing thier role they need to wilder in other roles WP pool but without beeing really suited for that. Thats not right they should be rewarded for doing their job. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
356
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:34:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:
I don't believe every action deserves WP. Do it to win, to better your reputation and pride.
Maybe not every action, but all the 5 point in the OP deserve wp or a separated logi point system. |
Sona Nara
DUST University
Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:38:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:
Says who? Why do you need a "pat on your back" or recognition for doing something that is in the best interest of you and the team? That doesn't make any sense...
It's not about a "pat on the back". WP are directly related to how much ISK and SP you gain so if you take a route that helps the team without getting many WP you progress much slower than people who spec into WP gaining roles. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
1052
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:50:00 -
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CCP told us at fanfest that they were planning on overhauling the WP rewards so that more stuff like you've mentioned would be included but nothing has been mentioned since. This needs looking at or the entire world is just going to think this is nothing but a run of the mill shooter, when it should be so much more and provide for all manner of playstyles. |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
251
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Posted - 2013.07.25 12:07:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:1) It's very difficult to see somebody repairing a vehicle with remote repair.
They are also impratical and the vehicle version do not rep infantry, i suggest to give a circle of rep around the vehicle when he activate the module (like a triage nanohive), they should repair a fixed amount of HP (total pool) to everybody in their area (both vehicles and infantry) before cool down.
2) Destroying enemy equipment
With the exception of drop-uplinks most of the people don't destroy nano hives.
3) Counter hack
4) Spotting/Scanning
5) MObile CRU
I made a post on triage mechanics last build and 1 of them was like the 1 on top, if you are in the lock on zone and the module was on it auto locked on, this was for balance reasons, and to fix issues like when a pole touched the lighting tether it broke and if the module was still on and you re-enter range (it also 'broke' if you went out of range) it wouldn`t re target and the module would still be going off. from what I`ve seen they just extended the range a bit (I fly triage DS time to time, even for randoms). the shield 1 is noticeable and both have the repping screen animation for the guy getting repped. I would like a infantry based module for triage OR being in a Logi ADV-PRO (this is due to better tech) is adds 15% to shield regulations (for those who don`t know what that is -->) which is how fast your drop suits reacts till it starts healing your drop suits shields. |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
79
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Posted - 2013.07.25 12:45:00 -
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Sona Nara wrote:The thing is that WP also give you ISK. I could bring in a DS with a CRU. My friend could spawn into it in a free dropsuit. Straight away he jumps to his death and spawns into the CRU again. He can do this 3 times a minute for the whole match. If it's 25WP like the DU that would be 1500 WP after 20 minutes. Boring game but that's going to be about 300,000 ISK. If you got a squad of 4 friends to do this you'd have 6000 WP.
It's difficult to have a system you can never exploit. You could fix the issues above by putting a time delay before more WP is awarded for the same merc spawning in but if you only fix specific exploits people will find new ones.
I do hope they find a good middle though! I want to see WP from my dropship's CRU!
How about making it so that what points that were assigned were only given if the merc who spawned landed on the ground alive? Perhaps to discourage blewburries from just hanging out on the DS, the spawn happens on the DS and the merc is just placed on the closest flat surface beneath the DS. So you wouldn't be on the DS, but on the ground or whatever the DS was above when the merc rejoined battle. This could discourage wp farming by not allowing the DS pilot to hover over the instant death goo or abyss things on the maps, because of the "must be alive to earn points" stipulation.
Thoughts?
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