Face it, ARs are easy mode and they're going to continue to be easy mode because every game needs a mechanic new players can latch onto. They just need to find a way to beef up niche weapons to counter them better.

I have proto HMG, proto scrambler rifles, proto AR's.

The AR is still king. The scrambler is fun, but the recoil is more than the AR, and for some reason it feels like the "bullets" travel slower. The HMG... lolHMG.

What i find funny is that the AR has the "Sharpshooter" skill while the SR doesn't have a skill like that, or a more specialized skill, like something to reduce heat... i don't know, something. The SR's are still good though, just that the AR is, and always will be the king of the battlefield.

I have proto HMG, proto scrambler rifles, proto AR's.

The AR is still king. The scrambler is fun, but the recoil is more than the AR, and for some reason it feels like the "bullets" travel slower. The HMG... lolHMG.

What i find funny is that the AR has the "Sharpshooter" skill while the SR doesn't have a skill like that, or a more specialized skill, like something to reduce heat... i don't know, something. The SR's are still good though, just that the AR is, and always will be the king of the battlefield.

What I think really kills the assault scrambler rifle is it's ridiculous recoil when ADS.

....wait......... phased laser charges...... ..recoil... .....what?

What I think really kills the assault scrambler rifle is it's ridiculous recoil when ADS.

....wait......... phased laser charges...... ..recoil... .....what?

From my experience the AR has initially more recoil and bullet spread than the scrambler assault rifle, the problem is the scrambler assault rifle do not benefit from skills the AR does with two skills to deal with its weakness.

CCP should start to introduce the proper Weapon profiles and they should get rid of all the placeholder weapons than we may see some differences because then the gal AR has its own niche -> short Range + high dps. Now ist all kinda screwed ;(

That's just false.
Both the AR and the Scrambler rifle are hit scan, as in instant bullets.
Also, I tested it, the recoil is the same, it just feels like this because of the distracting glow when you fire (like whe the laser)

Exactly, switch the recoil, dispersion, and optimal range between the ScR and the AR.

i said "feels like"... i didn't say it was fact.

The charged shot certainly doesn't feel like it's insta hit. Tried that **** many times and it's either hit detection or there's travel time on that bullet.

Can I please understand why this weapon is "OP?"
DPS?
HMG has more DPS than it.
Range?
60 meters and after that our damage drops so much that it's like bug bites.

I don't understand you people, I really don't.
Also, I love how you all ignore the assault scrambler rifle.
It has the same DPS as the assault rifle, almost the same range, bigger clip size, tighter hip fire.
And while yes, it has overheat, but it's insignificant, it takes a clip and a half of constant fire to overheat it

This just shows me obvious butthurt, you people can't take the fact that there are general purpose weapons and niche weapons.

Wait for all the racial Assault rifles, then talk balance.

AR has vastly less recoil than the SR. The sights on the SR are mostly useless since the muzzle flak is so bright you can't see out of it when you shoot. Also no sharpshooter skill. The game should be balanced around assault rifles anyways.

And...
It will be exactly the same.
Try using someone UNSKILLED INTO AR's, see how the recoil is.
That -25% to kick is really useful.

Again, false.
The muzzle flash is annoying but isn't as bad as the laser, I can certainly deal with it.

Hit detection.

And...
It will be exactly the same.
Try using someone UNSKILLED INTO AR's, see how the recoil is.
That -25% to kick is really useful.

I'm better at this game than you are, I know what I'm talking about. The muzzle flash is so bad you lose sight of your target because CCP has no idea how to properly balance an FPS.

And...
It will be exactly the same.
Try using someone UNSKILLED INTO AR's, see how the recoil is.
That -25% to kick is really useful.

What kick - kick is minimal.

I use the exile with no skills into AR and just ADS on target and hold down the trigger.

The gun barely moves and never veers (horizontally) off the target.

I should clarify:
I said false about the less recoil thing.

Also, you can't claim you are better than me as we never played against each other.
In fact, you are the one complaining that you lose sight of your target with the SCR when I'm doing just fine.

That's the thing, with 0 SP and an Exile there's virtually no kick/dispersion to speak of until you get down to your last 10 rounds. Even the GEK doesn't kick like a donkey compared to how it was in Chrome. For a weapon that has such an ungodly amount of DPS, you should have to give up some accuracy from simply holding down R 1.

I've come in first place in PC matches against almost every single relevant corp in dust 514. What have you accomplished?

Are you really going to sit here and tell me you DONT lose sight of your target when you shoot?

I want you to take a look at this image and tell me you can still see the target's dropsuit.

http://i.imgur.com/2MCdABk.jpg

Nope, even with the skill maxed out after around 20-25 bullets it starts kicking like a mule.

That'd be about 5 with the assault scr.