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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:39:00 -
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I have lost so much ISK over the last few builds that I know have to play 5 battles in militia starter fits / beta gifts in order to use 1 of my ADS and I got to choose matches that seem like it can survive so avoided known AV guys.
so I`m kinda glad DS/ADS hauls will be cheapened but inless that WP awards for team actions comes back pilots won`t be gaining ISK or enough ISK to be stable, no they will still be going down quickly all that happened was its a few weeks later from bankruptcy. I`m not saying make them dirt cheap, or the turrets are to expensive, the modules are fine but we have no awards for specialization, no PRO modules, ADV-PRO vehicles and we are trying to balance against AV in their PRO stages so we are at a severe disadvantage and by the time we can start gaining ISK or at least barely loose any we will need to go on foot to get enough load-outs stocked prior to that.
So can we get a pilot event, I know there's little to no interest in pilots and there aren't to much pilots but I and a few others are the only 1s using logi DS roles, with this event we will have an increase of the other DS roles and it will pay back pilots and award tanks (who are about to get nerfed from the rumors) and it will help the troopers for spawn. So guys bear with me on this:
100,000k armor healed = 50x Prometheus
100,000k shields healed = 50x Eryhx
100 installation kills (not needing to be hostile) = 10 x XT Cycled, 10x XT Fragmented, 10x XT Accelerated, 10x XT normal role missile.
200 kills = 35 Pythons and 35 Incubus
150 kill Assists = 10x Scattered ION, 10x compressed ION, 10x stabilized ION and 10x ION blaster.
50 vehicle kill assists (as in same vehicle as killer) = 25x Myron, 25x Gruemnes.
20 vehicle kills 10 vehicle kill asssits (as in destruction assist) = 15x Compressed, 15x regulated and 15x normal PRO railguns.
100x CRU spawn (either built in or module) = 25x Eryhx and 25x Prometheus.
note these awards can only be received while you are in a dropship, so if you gun a dropship for a pilot you can revive the awards to if you accomplish the objectives.
ok so to answer a few questions that might be plegging you, PRO turrets are 220k while ADS are double that, so if you combine both the awards from objective #3 and #4 you have 70 ADS vs 50x PRO turrets. the installations are easier to achieve due to there numbers and trooper at time un awareness of an ADS destroying them so it make sense you gain more bang for the buck with the #4 objective.
the CRU spawns on some matches are hard to get, other times its the highlight so I thought 100x fit well. yes I`m aware logi DSes are shown a lot here and Logi DS are better for the gunners. now tot he 100,000k HP healed for shield and armor (seperite objectives) I heal tanks a lot and at time A2A DS/ADS and reaching that goal won`t be to hard, you can gain 5%-10% if you do good at it so 20 battles per objective for that.
the turrets are based on what they do best or at least should do best (>.> railguns).
idk if many of the other forumers will get it but pilots are in a financial crisis and many are good at what they do and some (I being 1 of them) are fully specced into them and there's no advantage of putting in 3-4 mill SP vs 10 mill SP. ISK and load-outs are running short as well. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:53:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:You missed the most important part of the event rewards?
1. What do us ground Mercs get for shooting you down?
2. Can I get something extra special for shooting the gunners out of a Dropship?
when were troopers in dier need except some more support from DS? and when on earth could DS get hacks and stuff? you guys can get the vehicle kills assists and stuff there won`t be trooper oriented objectives since you guys are doing fine ISK wise. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:24:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Screw that i stay with my derpship (viper). Seriously whats the point in dropships when i can do all tasks with a militia variant?
I`m fully aware you can accomplish MOST of this without speccing into it, its a lot harder, but what do you get as rewards? there's a broad spectrum there for different roles and specializations, again yes you can do this with militia stuff for the challenge but not a lot.
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:I've been fighting for this for ages; and to no avail.. oh, and BHD, ready for that duel yet? 
was playing yesterday and didn`t see you, just Jesusluvseveron. then there was another battle where there were 2 Myrons, 1 Eryhx and a Python but I was saving ISK and couldn`t call in my A2A Python :( we might have to Q synce to do it considering pubs at random, also what region are you in?
the thought is to get CCP thinking that they are doing the right thing to allow us to use less ISK and in the long run gain some with WPs but they need to know they have to get us out of the pit they dug us into, its not like we don`t know what we are doing and giving bad feedback I honestly don`t know why it took them so long but they need to fix it, and if they can start thinking of a way to get us some ISK to start out the next bright day then that's good. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:56:00 -
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Crimson Judgment wrote:im sorry but as a fellow dropship pilot i would love to see this happen but i would rather see a buff but as of now this seems to be CCP's attitude toward vehicles in general (if you don't get it the start is pretty much whats currently happening and around the end is this supposed 1.4 will be good for vehicle users)
buffs are coming as I mentioned but its no use of it if we don`t have enough ISK to start out. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 18:53:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:Serimos Haeraven wrote:I've been fighting for this for ages; and to no avail.. oh, and BHD, ready for that duel yet? was playing yesterday and didn`t see you, just Jesusluvseveron. then there was another battle where there were 2 Myrons, 1 Eryhx and a Python but I was saving ISK and couldn`t call in my A2A Python :( we might have to Q synce to do it considering pubs at random, also what region are you in? the thought is to get CCP thinking that they are doing the right thing to allow us to use less ISK and in the long run gain some with WPs but they need to know they have to get us out of the pit they dug us into, its not like we don`t know what we are doing and giving bad feedback I honestly don`t know why it took them so long but they need to fix it, and if they can start thinking of a way to get us some ISK to start out the next bright day then that's good. It's pretty clear that CCP actually does understand the pit they have put us in, all they have to do is analyze the statistics over DS pilots, and it's right there, and I'm sure they have. The only question is whether or not they will fix any of these issues soon, or far down the road, and that question is basically up in the air. And I am playing in the US so that's the region I'm in. And it's pretty hard to randomly find players in matches, I've done it around 3 times where i have found other members i recognize from the forums lol Also, I'd be totally fine with dueling in like.... 3 hours from now? That's when I'll be online for a good while so any time after around 3 hours from now would work fine with me, One deal i make when i duel is whoever loses gets half of their DS cost payed for by the other participating pilot who won.
they are aware, its the biggest imbalance, but they go by what the forums complain about most, piloting doesn`t have a large spectrum of pilots and at times some aren't verbal, its increased since Uprising though and that started at the end of chromosome and they have slowly brought it up from the bottom of the to do list, CCP plays it to who can complain more in numbers rather then a logical imbalance, or the redline would have been fixed by now. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 20:25:00 -
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Degg Dreddger wrote:They just need to make tracking on the homeing weapons a little worse so they are dodge able. But not terrible to the point where shooting down a dropship seems like a dream.
I was thinking the same thing but then it would mess up G2G swarms. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 20:56:00 -
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S Park Finner wrote:Folks, I looked pretty hard for some indication that changes in dropships were in active development by CCP. I didn't find any.
A couple of people in this thread have suggested there is something definitely in the pipeline. Could you guys point me to the references?
CCP blam said (this is by memory, my apologies for not getting you the source) that CRU spawns will be getting WP, sensors will be getting WP but it might have to be a variant of them (that would be dumb, a variant to give you WP, really?) and triage (vehicle triage) is having trouble, they are trying to find a way to give WP without abusive/ exploitive mechanics and they are looking elsewhere rather then a cap since a cap is an issue.
idk the progress or the date that was posted or the source but it gives me hope. |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:10:00 -
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