First changes are fine, your too used to being able to fit everything you want without trying. Welcome to the world of every other suit in the game lol

Second the changes are just a place holder untill a full ballance pass can be done

Edit: mmm nom nom nom

Thank you someone at least two other people think the caldari logi is the strongest of the logi suits. I am very happy with the new changes i no longer will have to wait until the proto level to get my defining characteristic, btw i run a Ammar logi.

Yes, now you need CPU upgrades. I can't run anything on my Minny advanced Logistics suit without one, either. You know the damning thing? These upgrades take a low slot. We need those low slots for armour modules. All Amarr, Minny and Gallente logistics suits don't match the Caldari base shields. So we need those armour modules to enhance our base dropsuit armour. These base shields for Caldari suits, which werent touched in the nerf btw, at advanced level, should be complemented by advanced extenders: so why are you using complex? Save that for prototype level: we logibros don't need so much HP.

If you're performing your role correctly and staying out of extended fights and direct fire, you'll of course be taking damage, but nothing your base shields can't handle alone. Which means, now, with your NEW PASSIVE (which every thread discussing how the CalLogi didn't deserve the nerf hasn't even mentioned) makes you even more effective in the supporting role. Combined with a regulator, the 15% bonus to shield recharge delay at cal logi skill level 3, combined with an advanced regulator, means suddenly your shields are up before anyone elses. Which means you can dive into combat briefly to help teammates, retreat, and come back out before a logi of another class has their armour back up, because our reps are beaten by your passive shield recharge in every way possible.

I have a lack of sympathy for anyone who runs around in a caldari suit

exactly the way i feel

Explain how "every other" advanced logistics suit will have trouble fitting things with their +28-46 CPU over Caldari. Amarr and Minmatar have an extra slot for fitting mods. Gallente has 15-25% less fitting cost for equipment. WTF are you talking about? Or are you just trolling?

My CalSalt cant fit Full Proto gear, and so can't any other suit

I Laugh at your Feeble attempt to Save your Easy Fit Suit.

Instead of putting 3+ Million SPs into AR skills, try to get them Fitting Skills.

I Had a CalSalt Fit that didn't have enough PG and CPU to work, so I just ran my Starter Fits until I had enough SPs to level the Fitting Skills so I can Run it.

Same thing with my Sica.

Same Thing with My Militia Derpship that I forgot the Name of.

My STD CalLogi was the Only Suit I had that I was able to fit Perfectly.

With ADV Gear

STFU and HTFU, and figure out how your Fits are going to work.

Sorry, you cant run a Suit with the EHP of a Heavy.

So Sorry.

Try to fit some STD, or ADV Mods.

I Hear those exist.

I Apologize for those Butthurt by my post, exempt the OP.

I give two $hits what you were able to do with your Cal logi standard suit. We're talking about advanced. The advanced Cal logi doesn't have near the EHP of an advanced heavy. As for the rest of your hot air, this is a conversation about numbers, so back up what you're saying or how bout you STFU.

Minmatar and Amarr logi advanced are waaaaaay better than Cal logi advanced now. I'm not sure about Gallente due to armor's deficiencies, but I know it has a lot more CPU than Cal logi now and more PG. As for Minmatar and Amarr I beg you or anyone to differ. Come at me bro.

Observe:

Compare advanced Minmatar Logi with advanced Caldari logi. Both have Core Upgrades 4, Electronics 3, and Engineering 3, as well as Armor and Shield Upgrades 3 and Biotic Upgrades 3. Suit bonuses are at 15%

Caldari:

x3 Complex Shield Extender
x1 Enhanced Shield Regulator
x1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade

GEK AR
Locus grenades
BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool
KIN-012 Nanite Injector
K-2 Nanohive

Shields: 427
Recharge 20
Delay: 3.8
SD Delay: 6.1

Armor: 104
Armor Rep: 3

Movement: 4.7
Sprint: 6.8

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Minmatar

x3 Complex Shield Extender
x2 Basic Armor Plates
x1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade

GEK AR
M1 Locus Grenades
Six Kin Triage Repair Tool
KIN-012 Nanite Injector
X-3 Quantum Nanohive

Shields: 322
Recharge 20
Delay: 6
SD Delay: 8

Armor: 310
Armor Rep: 3

Movement: 4.7
Sprint: 6.8

Hacking Speed: +15%

Behold...total imbalance. The Min logi has better grenades, better repair tool, better nanohive, a hacking bonus, and 206 more armor. It's only downside is that it has 105 less shields and its delays are 2 seconds longer.

You just proved an important point. Other suits have to do a balancing act with their fittings, giving up one thing for another. CaLogis didn't have to and could fit just about anything proto. Someone already stated this but allow me to reiterate the point- "Welcome to the world of every other dropsuit." Make a choice between different meta level gear to fit and make that choice matter.

I give two $hits what you were able to do with your Cal logi standard suit. We're talking about advanced. The advanced Cal logi doesn't have near the EHP of an advanced heavy. As for the rest of your hot air, this is a conversation about numbers, so back up what you're saying or how bout you STFU.

Minmatar and Amarr logi advanced are waaaaaay better than Cal logi advanced now. I'm not sure about Gallente due to armor's deficiencies, but I know it has a lot more CPU than Cal logi now and more PG. As for Minmatar and Amarr I beg you or anyone to differ. Come at me bro.

Observe:

Compare advanced Minmatar Logi with advanced Caldari logi. Both have Core Upgrades 4, Electronics 3, and Engineering 3, as well as Armor and Shield Upgrades 3 and Biotic Upgrades 3. Suit bonuses are at 15%

Caldari:

x3 Complex Shield Extender
x1 Enhanced Shield Regulator
x1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade

GEK AR
Locus grenades
BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool
KIN-012 Nanite Injector
K-2 Nanohive

Shields: 427
Recharge 20
Delay: 3.8
SD Delay: 6.1

Armor: 104
Armor Rep: 3

Movement: 4.7
Sprint: 6.8

---

Minmatar

x3 Complex Shield Extender
x2 Basic Armor Plates
x1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade

GEK AR
M1 Locus Grenades
Six Kin Triage Repair Tool
KIN-012 Nanite Injector
X-3 Quantum Nanohive

Shields: 322
Recharge 20
Delay: 6
SD Delay: 8

Armor: 310
Armor Rep: 3

Movement: 4.7
Sprint: 6.8

Hacking Speed: +15%

Behold...total imbalance. The Min logi has better grenades, better repair tool, better nanohive, a hacking bonus, and 206 more armor. It's only downside is that it has 105 less shields and its delays are 2 seconds longer.

Caldari:

x3 Complex Shield Extender
x1 Enhanced Shield Regulator
x1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade

GEK AR
Locus grenades
BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool
KIN-012 Nanite Injector
K-2 Nanohive

Shields: 427
Recharge 20
Delay: 3.8
SD Delay: 6.1

Armor: 104
Armor Rep: 3

Movement: 4.7
Sprint: 6.8

---

Minmatar

x3 Complex Shield Extender
x2 Basic Armor Plates
x1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade

GEK AR
M1 Locus Grenades
Six Kin Triage Repair Tool
KIN-012 Nanite Injector
X-3 Quantum Nanohive

Shields: 322
Recharge 20
Delay: 6
SD Delay: 8

Armor: 310
Armor Rep: 3

Movement: 4.7
Sprint: 6.8

Hacking Speed: +15%

Behold...total imbalance. The Min logi has better grenades, better repair tool, better nanohive, a hacking bonus, and 206 more armor. It's only downside is that it has 105 less shields and its delays are 2 seconds longer.

This thread is not about proto. Now what were you saying?

I will ask two things of you.

One, is to replace your shield regulators with enhanced armor plating.

See how that kinda evens your HP deficit?

That brings your deficit down to 20-30 HP.

Less then one AR bullet. Wil a single bullet make or break you in a fight?

"Oh, but my bonus!" Faq the bonus. The LLAVs probably have a buns to rep tool efficiency, do you think they use it? Probably not. The shield Reg is probably the most useless piece of gear in a firefight, as al it does is play with the recharge delay.

Two. Try to use advanced gear on advanced suits please. It will hep with your CPU deficit too.

Learn to fit like everyone else. Use basic equipment. The bonuses really are scaled crappily along the tiers, and in truth, if you have the time, it doesn't matter how much health you Rezz me with, or how fast you rep me. It that you are repping me.

In case if you didn't know, non proto dropsuits can still fit proto gear.

He was talking about Cal logi dropsuit being able to fit everything at proto.

If you are not dual tanking an advanced Cal Logi after the nerf, you are a dead logi.