DUST Search - This game is getting old

xAckie wrote:

this isnt the players fault.

Its the games mechanics.

The worst part being the ISK, factor - its not the gear per se. People go oh I might not make a profit if they see an organised squad - drop down to lower gear (militia or free suits), which in an RPG makes the situation worse. And how we see constant redlining. People get rewarded near enough the same for sitting back sniping etc and not PTO - whats the incentive to play.

the only solution to pub matches is to ban Proto gear in them. But why do that? Some people dont play PC so why would they grind for gear and then not be able to use it. And it also defeats the point of trying to build an FPS RPG.

tbh most proto suits I see are not fitted with proto weapons etc. people are using them to grind for the stupid artificial hump/ SP sink that CCP has put in - the 5x PG/ CPU multiplier, which everyone has to max out so they can fit equipment etc on their suits.

Situation may improve if we ever get bigger numbers v numbers but doubt it.

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IRON PATRIOT 1 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.07.23 06:16:00 - [1] - Quote Just played a couple of matches in my adv suit and went negative 5 times in a row because this one corp decided they want to pub stomp in proto suits & llavs. Thats when I remembered why I started wearing my proto suit in every match. Its a shame you can't jump in a game of dust by yourself and expect not to get trashed. Currently I don't have anyone to squad with. All my friends are off and I'm out of a corp due to shady eve ceo's. I don't understand what this game is coming to.
Karazantor Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 105	Posted - 2013.07.23 06:20:00 - [2] - Quote Yes its all a problem. This may help some of them though, on a related topic: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96372&find=unread
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 174	Posted - 2013.07.23 06:22:00 - [3] - Quote Try joining the LFSquad channel. If you are the social sort join random squads in Pubs, eventually you'll find a good group. As for the shady eve CEO. Eve Online is supposed to be that way. Grim and Gothic with a scfi bent.
KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 301	Posted - 2013.07.23 06:45:00 - [4] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Just played a couple of matches in my adv suit and went negative 5 times in a row because this one corp decided they want to pub stomp in proto suits & llavs. Thats when I remembered why I started wearing my proto suit in every match. Its a shame you can't jump in a game of dust by yourself and expect not to get trashed. I'm a logi so there isn't much I can do all by myself, it's a shame we can't try other dropsuits without them being malitia. Currently I don't have anyone to squad with. All my friends are off and I'm out of a corp due to shady eve ceo's. I don't understand what this game is coming to. I remember running a couple matches awhile back, you dropped into my squad. If im not mistaken you were with Molon Labe. at the time. If youre interested: lotis.enjin.com Youre welcome to check us out
Faquira Bleuetta 0uter.Heaven EoN. 66	Posted - 2013.07.23 07:05:00 - [5] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Just played a couple of matches in my adv suit and went negative 5 times in a row because this one corp decided they want to pub stomp in proto suits & llavs. the sound of your crushing bone when i can ran into you is harmonious but so is ur lamentation too.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 357	Posted - 2013.07.23 07:10:00 - [6] - Quote Just respec into something else. Oh, nevermind...
IRON PATRIOT 1 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 21	Posted - 2013.07.23 08:41:00 - [7] - Quote Faquira Bleuetta wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Just played a couple of matches in my adv suit and went negative 5 times in a row because this one corp decided they want to pub stomp in proto suits & llavs. the sound of your crushing bone when i can ran into you is harmonious but so is ur lamentation too. huh funny run solo and see me one on one.
IRON PATRIOT 1 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 21	Posted - 2013.07.23 08:44:00 - [8] - Quote KripnawtiQ Prime wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Just played a couple of matches in my adv suit and went negative 5 times in a row because this one corp decided they want to pub stomp in proto suits & llavs. Thats when I remembered why I started wearing my proto suit in every match. Its a shame you can't jump in a game of dust by yourself and expect not to get trashed. I'm a logi so there isn't much I can do all by myself, it's a shame we can't try other dropsuits without them being malitia. Currently I don't have anyone to squad with. All my friends are off and I'm out of a corp due to shady eve ceo's. I don't understand what this game is coming to. I remember running a couple matches awhile back, you dropped into my squad. If im not mistaken you were with Molon Labe. at the time. If youre interested: lotis.enjin.com Youre welcome to check us out k I'll check u guys out later
Shrapnels The Order 1886 215	Posted - 2013.07.23 08:45:00 - [9] - Quote unfortunately, there is Not enough of playerbase to have a pure Solo-queue
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 263	Posted - 2013.07.23 09:47:00 - [10] - Quote this isnt the players fault. Its the games mechanics. The worst part being the ISK, factor - its not the gear per se. People go oh I might not make a profit if they see an organised squad - drop down to lower gear (militia or free suits), which in an RPG makes the situation worse. And how we see constant redlining. People get rewarded near enough the same for sitting back sniping etc and not PTO - whats the incentive to play. the only solution to pub matches is to ban Proto gear in them. But why do that? Some people dont play PC so why would they grind for gear and then not be able to use it. And it also defeats the point of trying to build an FPS RPG. tbh most proto suits I see are not fitted with proto weapons etc. people are using them to grind for the stupid artificial hump/ SP sink that CCP has put in - the 5x PG/ CPU multiplier, which everyone has to max out so they can fit equipment etc on their suits. Situation may improve if we ever get bigger numbers v numbers but doubt it.

fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 378	Posted - 2013.07.23 10:53:00 - [11] - Quote Was going to type a long reply but can't be botherd, it all boils down to the shoddy system ccp chose, what works for eve is proveing dosn't work for an fps.
Severance Pay Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 834	Posted - 2013.07.23 12:28:00 - [12] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Just spec into something else. Oh, nevermind... Fixed...
IRON PATRIOT 1 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:53:00 - [13] - Quote xAckie wrote: this isnt the players fault. Its the games mechanics. The worst part being the ISK, factor - its not the gear per se. People go oh I might not make a profit if they see an organised squad - drop down to lower gear (militia or free suits), which in an RPG makes the situation worse. And how we see constant redlining. People get rewarded near enough the same for sitting back sniping etc and not PTO - whats the incentive to play. the only solution to pub matches is to ban Proto gear in them. But why do that? Some people dont play PC so why would they grind for gear and then not be able to use it. And it also defeats the point of trying to build an FPS RPG. tbh most proto suits I see are not fitted with proto weapons etc. people are using them to grind for the stupid artificial hump/ SP sink that CCP has put in - the 5x PG/ CPU multiplier, which everyone has to max out so they can fit equipment etc on their suits. Situation may improve if we ever get bigger numbers v numbers but doubt it. I agree with this tottally I'm not against using proto suits in pubs cause we spend months grinding for them. Its just that you don't get enough isk reward in pub matches to continuously use them. The only way to gain some sort of profit is to run with a squad. I think people would complain less if we were making more of a profit in the matches we play. To be honest alot of people are not good at this game and they just like the whole character development so thats why they play, and when you die to frequently not making isk you get turned off from the game cause you can't do anything without it.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 266	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:56:00 - [14] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Just played a couple of matches in my adv suit and went negative 5 times in a row because this one corp decided they want to pub stomp in proto suits & llavs. Thats when I remembered why I started wearing my proto suit in every match. Its a shame you can't jump in a game of dust by yourself and expect not to get trashed. I'm a logi so there isn't much I can do all by myself, it's a shame we can't try other dropsuits without them being malitia. Currently I don't have anyone to squad with. All my friends are off and I'm out of a corp due to shady eve ceo's. I don't understand what this game is coming to. hey buddy do you have the minmatar skinweave suit? thats actually a militia logi suit
IRON PATRIOT 1 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:57:00 - [15] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Just respec into something else. Oh, nevermind... I would love to do this because I only specced into logi because my old corp needed another one but that went down the drain.
IRON PATRIOT 1 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 24	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:59:00 - [16] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Just played a couple of matches in my adv suit and went negative 5 times in a row because this one corp decided they want to pub stomp in proto suits & llavs. Thats when I remembered why I started wearing my proto suit in every match. Its a shame you can't jump in a game of dust by yourself and expect not to get trashed. I'm a logi so there isn't much I can do all by myself, it's a shame we can't try other dropsuits without them being malitia. Currently I don't have anyone to squad with. All my friends are off and I'm out of a corp due to shady eve ceo's. I don't understand what this game is coming to. hey buddy do you have the minmatar skinweave suit? thats actually a militia logi suit Naw I don't, but I should invest in one.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5418	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:59:00 - [17] - Quote I do pretty well by myself, but that doesn't take anything away from the **** poor state of "matchmaking" right now. I strongly doubt any changes to matchmaking will improve this, because our player base is painfully small. You'll either get put into games with a ton of noobs and stomp, or get put into games full of corp squads and get trashed; DUST as usual. No, we need PvE if we want a place to relax and actually just enjoy the game.
IRON PATRIOT 1 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 24	Posted - 2013.07.23 16:02:00 - [18] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I do pretty well by myself, but that doesn't take anything away from the **** poor state of "matchmaking" right now. I strongly doubt any changes to matchmaking will improve this, because our player base is painfully small. You'll either get put into games with a ton of noobs and stomp, or get put into games full of corp squads and get trashed; DUST as usual. No, we need PvE if we want a place to relax and actually just enjoy the game. Yea so true I think I'll be taking a break from dust for a while because its starting to get annoying to me.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 214	Posted - 2013.07.23 16:33:00 - [19] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Just respec into something else. Oh, nevermind... somebody get him a tissue.


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