Pages: 1 2 [3] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
27
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 19:22:00 -
[61] - Quote
Fiddlestaxp wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Guinevere Bravo wrote:Guys... STB as a whole do not condone or use on a regualar basis FP or Contact nades.
Wehave seen at least two or three of your guys 'camping' with said weapons whilst playing Corp matches. 9/10 they are your most effective players (Figure that!). Not once did we moan here (War forum).
So to combat said FP we run with contact nades, and now we get 'OMGAWD SVER IS SO BAD CONTACT NADE SPAM LOL'.
Well we have two choices here; 1. Either both comitt to NOT using FP or Contact nades. I will enforce this. 2. Escalate until its a pathetic 'i have more contact nades and FP than anyone else game' Which lets face it is boring.
So if you wish to 'man-up' and except the no FP or Contact nade rule then let me know, if not then be prepared to play the most boring losses of your life. Given the exchange of mails after battle I'm surprised you didn't raise this issue if you felt it was so abused. As I have said, I'm only aware of two players that use the flaylock and to my knowledge none of our guys have used contact grenades. Your 9/10 comment seems a bit out of line given until this battle I have been top on our side and you'll never see me use them. Also our logis and heavys are often near the top on our boards. I believe camps murdered the **** out of you guys last round and that was all heavy machine gun. I will say this thread started as a frustrated vent after a rather unpleasant battle. So let me say I still respect you guys but that battle really made me hate that contact grenade with a passion. I hate telling my guys what to use, just as I never complained about the contact grenades in previous battles, it just gets a bit out of hand when a large number of players on one side uses a weapon that is iffy balance wise. If the only way to prevent the mass contact grenades I saw last night is a full agreement to not use those two weapons that can be arranged, personally I prefer to just keep things reasonable and not have a large number of guys come out with the same weapon. So, that's a "No" I think. On second look, it appears to be a weak and uncertain "Yes".
There is nothing weak or uncertain about it in my mind. It's me saying that I don't tell any of my guys what to use or not to use normally and i'm sure we all wish that there were not some weapons in the game that could be abused in such a way so we wouldn't have to even discuss this.
It looks like CCP is addressing the Flaylock issue although i'm not sure the Contact Grenades will be fixed in PC battles (it will fix it in public matches though I bet):
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/explosive-dampening-weapon-rebalancing-in-uprising-1.3/
I'm saying if the only way from having you guys stop spamming that contact grenade is to have a couple of my guys stop using the flaylock then sure, that can be arranged. On the other hand, if a couple of you roll with contact grenades and a couple of my guys have the flaylock, then honestly it seems somewhat balanced. It's just when there is mass use of one weapon that might very well not be balanced at the moment that issues arise. |
OP's Dirty Secret
MoIon Labe.
33
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 19:27:00 -
[62] - Quote
Ares 514 wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Guinevere Bravo wrote:Guys... STB as a whole do not condone or use on a regualar basis FP or Contact nades.
Wehave seen at least two or three of your guys 'camping' with said weapons whilst playing Corp matches. 9/10 they are your most effective players (Figure that!). Not once did we moan here (War forum).
So to combat said FP we run with contact nades, and now we get 'OMGAWD SVER IS SO BAD CONTACT NADE SPAM LOL'.
Well we have two choices here; 1. Either both comitt to NOT using FP or Contact nades. I will enforce this. 2. Escalate until its a pathetic 'i have more contact nades and FP than anyone else game' Which lets face it is boring.
So if you wish to 'man-up' and except the no FP or Contact nade rule then let me know, if not then be prepared to play the most boring losses of your life. Given the exchange of mails after battle I'm surprised you didn't raise this issue if you felt it was so abused. As I have said, I'm only aware of two players that use the flaylock and to my knowledge none of our guys have used contact grenades. Your 9/10 comment seems a bit out of line given until this battle I have been top on our side and you'll never see me use them. Also our logis and heavys are often near the top on our boards. I believe camps murdered the **** out of you guys last round and that was all heavy machine gun. I will say this thread started as a frustrated vent after a rather unpleasant battle. So let me say I still respect you guys but that battle really made me hate that contact grenade with a passion. I hate telling my guys what to use, just as I never complained about the contact grenades in previous battles, it just gets a bit out of hand when a large number of players on one side uses a weapon that is iffy balance wise. If the only way to prevent the mass contact grenades I saw last night is a full agreement to not use those two weapons that can be arranged, personally I prefer to just keep things reasonable and not have a large number of guys come out with the same weapon. So, that's a "No" I think. On second look, it appears to be a weak and uncertain "Yes". There is nothing weak or uncertain about it in my mind. It's me saying that I don't tell any of my guys what to use or not to use normally and i'm sure we all wish that there were not some weapons in the game that could be abused in such a way so we wouldn't have to even discuss this. It looks like CCP is addressing the Flaylock issue although i'm not sure the Contact Grenades will be fixed in PC battles (it will fix it in public matches though I bet): http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/explosive-dampening-weapon-rebalancing-in-uprising-1.3/I'm saying if the only way from having you guys stop spamming that contact grenade is to have a couple of my guys stop using the flaylock then sure, that can be arranged. On the other hand, if a couple of you roll with contact grenades and a couple of my guys have the flaylock, then honestly it seems somewhat balanced. It's just when there is mass use of one weapon that might very well not be balanced at the moment that issues arise.
One man's flaylock crutch is another man's contact nade spam. Ban both and both will oblige. /thread till one side dishonors the agreement. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1399
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 19:44:00 -
[63] - Quote
If I'm being honest, you should just agree to a Light Frame melee match.
PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO US SCOUTS! |
CPL Bloodstone
Neanderthal Nation
123
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 21:02:00 -
[64] - Quote
Knight Soiaire wrote:If I'm being honest, you should just agree to a Light Frame melee match. PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO US SCOUTS!
um scouts rock Mass driving fools. just sayin |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
667
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 02:04:00 -
[65] - Quote
Mikey The Bandaid wrote:Marston VC wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:Tisk tisk SVER. You've given us such good battles. You show in your victories against us that you can do it without fused grenades. And then you fight us with your entire team using Fused Locusts Grenades. Wow. How awful.
You've lost our respect for that one. Massive loss of respect. Canex, first of all, your one of the worst abusers of AOE weaponry. Flux nade and mass driver spam all day (or maybe that was somebody else on your team? idk..... too tired to remember). Your team, using core locus grenades backed by heavies backed by repping logis. You would even go as far as putting a dual core flaylock pistol user on a bridge overlooking one of the letters. Your upset we made a tactical decision as a team to use grenades? What are we supposed to do? Post a big sign on our asses and say "here you can ram it into us for free, and without fear of repercussions"? The only reason we switched to grenade use is because its the only way to effectively combat what you guys were doing. Just because your not getting a 2 - 1 k/d every match now doesn't mean were being cheesy...... it just means were adjusting to the tactics that you guys have repeated consistently on the same map for the last 7 battles we've had with you. So yeah, sorry if you lost respect for us. That sort of things happens, and I wouldn't feel good about my opponent either if my record was 1 and 7...... And in conclusion...... If this was a first match that you sighted us using "contact nade spam" This is one loss of many...... Do you think if we used them or not, would it have made a difference? Im not trying to sound like a douche, but I mean...... how am I supposed to respond to a person that apparently lost all respect for my corp? Idk..... Sorry for the disappointment, if you are disappointed. So what I got out of this post was.... "Because your corp actually put up multiple close battles when they were out cloned 4:1 almost every match, managed to beat us once, we decided to resort to extremely hack, blatantly obvious pay-to-win tactics" I guess I should feel honored that such a prestigious corporation such as yourself had to fall back on such tactics to beat a corp coming at you with 100 clones. Thank you :)
Prestigious??? Take a look at the damn forums dude, the only people who seem to like our corp are the members And maybe your right! Maybe We suck so bad that we had to resort to "win tactics" though I don't know of many who endorse "lose tactics". Either way this goes, Will see who's still winning after they nerf flaylock pistols and contact nades. Let me give you a hint...... The district aint changing hands. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
667
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 02:06:00 -
[66] - Quote
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:WhiteMage7322 wrote:It doesn't matter what was used, what matters is who are the loser and the winners. There is no rules in Dust. First -There "are" no rules- is what you meant to say. Second, we all know these are what the top corporations are making agreements on what to leave out of the battle. These treaties show the entire dust community that these weapons are really broken and unbalanced. To strictly use that as a tactic for victory is shameful and shows ones weakness. Unfortunately this is simply not true. Lots of 'agreements' were made during the war with eon and loi, and only team players vs hellstorm to my knowledge actually held that agreement, throughout dozens of matches. I can gladly say it helped to provide some outstanding, competitive matches that both sides left the field with their heads held high. But never expect an agreement. We were ready to bring out that crap as soon as they did, but my guys have the discipline to wait for the kill feed to give the green light. Once again I commend hellstorm for their diligence on that. Flaylocks getting nerfed within a week anyway, and fused nades have been around forever. Its when both are present is when things tend to get ugly. Earning districts is certainly commendable, but you do realize there are 2 entire planets of corps that have similar experience as you. STB has been around since the beginning of PC. They have taken on the best, many times. They know what it takes to win, and their take great pride in their land, as does everyone. You cannot fault them for defending their land by any means necessary. Sure its cheesy, but the victory screen is the reason we all play this game
The realism in this post....... Outstanding. Truly remarkable. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
668
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 02:09:00 -
[67] - Quote
Ares 514 wrote:Chesty Ranger wrote:LOL. I have the battle recorded, and icedslayer have also we will upload video probably tomorrow. So you can all watch all this "nade spam". Also got footage of you guys camping over the bridge with fraylock over watching A. Anyways you guys where pretty good sport sad to see your corp go out in salty note. Just hold dat L over your chest and carry on bro.
Spoiler OP claim is highly exaggerated. I wished you guys had the good battles recorded where the screen goes black for a sec and neither side knows who won. Happened twice and those were the best games in my opinion. Unfortunately none of us can record at the moment. I will point out that a kill feed is not always a clear representation of what is really being used... But enjoy the video, cause that game I sucked it up... Flux / fused grenades combo were my undoing.
If im not mistaken, the battle we lossed to you guys was put up. But whatevs, its not my choice what videos go up, its the choice of the 1 - 3 recorders we have weather or not they feel like uploading for 2 hours. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
668
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 02:12:00 -
[68] - Quote
Knight Soiaire wrote:That match didn't look to bad, its what I'd have expected from a PC match. You could use some more experience with tanking , (04:46) I was almost shouting at my screen, really, when you're that overwhelmed by AV, you should retreat, or at least shoot at the players with the AV And if I'm being really honest, both teams could use a Winmatar Scout
We actually had a winmatar scout, I just ordered him to do semi-specific things during the match so its unlikely you saw him much, if not at all. As for the tanks, generally they have orders they have to follow too, though I haven't seen the video so I cant completely vouch for the driver in question. Lol but in my mind, For every man that's spending time Throwing AV nades at tanks, that's one less man they could have shooting us. But maybe that's a bit narrow minded? Who knows :/ |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
668
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 02:15:00 -
[69] - Quote
dazlb72 wrote:dazlb72 wrote:i didn't play in this battle and have no idea what went on. I think a few people who play this game are sick of some weapons that are being used, but at the same time you can't really complain if someone uses them. The fact is we've been going at SVER for a while and have only won one battle. That is the only thing that matters, and the only thing people will remember. SVER haven't cheated in any way by using weapons that are available to them, or to anyone in our corp. TBH I'm a bit disappointed this thread was opened, it just made us look like poor losers. i posted this last night, mainly to try and defuse a situation i could see getting out of hand. Cenex is a good person, and everyone is entitled to rage every now and then, and i daresay 95% of the people who have posted on this thread have at one time or another. Hell i can rage with the best of them. I have enjoyed playing SVER in many games, along with most of the top corps. i know most of the time I'll get my butt kicked but its a rush playing the top players in this game, people flooding towards you hell bent on your destruction. And long may that continue
The situation isn't out of hand, its just people venting. I don't think theres any hard feelings, but who knows. Rest assured, when contact nades and flaylocks are nerfed you'll see a reduction in the crying about them on the forums. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1404
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 11:23:00 -
[70] - Quote
Marston VC wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:That match didn't look to bad, its what I'd have expected from a PC match. You could use some more experience with tanking , (04:46) I was almost shouting at my screen, really, when you're that overwhelmed by AV, you should retreat, or at least shoot at the players with the AV And if I'm being really honest, both teams could use a Winmatar Scout We actually had a winmatar scout, I just ordered him to do semi-specific things during the match so its unlikely you saw him much, if not at all. As for the tanks, generally they have orders they have to follow too, though I haven't seen the video so I cant completely vouch for the driver in question. Lol but in my mind, For every man that's spending time Throwing AV nades at tanks, that's one less man they could have shooting us. But maybe that's a bit narrow minded? Who knows :/
Not talking about your tanker, the DL one.
You'll see what I mean when you watch the video |
|
Chesty Ranger
SVER True Blood
8
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 13:05:00 -
[71] - Quote
Here's the nade spam of the century. Props to icedslayer our combat camera and sub machine gun slayer. Good **** to our scout team fending off a point from multiple tanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvBNVQe0i-c&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
373
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 13:36:00 -
[72] - Quote
Out of 97 kills by STB - 30 of them were Fused Locus. |
Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
844
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 13:44:00 -
[73] - Quote
Soooooo. Your weakness is fused locust grenades? Gotcha! |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1404
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 13:54:00 -
[74] - Quote
Severance Pay wrote:Soooooo. Your weakness is fused locust grenades? Gotcha!
Yep.
I have a phobia of all things "Bugs"
So Locusts are definitely my weakness |
pamuku420tyme
out-phase
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 14:38:00 -
[75] - Quote
Cenex Langly wrote:WhiteMage7322 wrote:It doesn't matter what was used, what matters is who are the loser and the winners. There is no rules in Dust. First -There "are" no rules- is what you meant to say. Second, we all know these are what the top corporations are making agreements on what to leave out of the battle. These treaties show the entire dust community that these weapons are really broken and unbalanced. To strictly use that as a tactic for victory is shameful and shows ones weakness.
hey smart guy u sit here and talk about tactics, what the hell do u think they just did? you all say "no nades in battle" so why wouldn't they exploit the fact that u are not using them and that they are BATTLING AGAINST YOU and use anything in their arsenal to kill you and obviously win. -1 for cryin on a forum. and -1 for trying to organize a battle against an opponent... yes cause that seems to work so well in real life lets try it in a game....
complete fail! |
Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet Top Men.
8
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 16:24:00 -
[76] - Quote
Wait, Dark Legion is fighting in PC?
I thought they were a flaylock-only gimmick corp. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1411
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 17:59:00 -
[77] - Quote
Jotun Izalaru wrote:Wait, Dark Legion is fighting in PC?
I thought they were a flaylock-only gimmick corp.
Lul.
Goonfeet..... |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
422
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 20:12:00 -
[78] - Quote
fahrenheitM wrote:Out of 97 kills by STB - 30 of them were Fused Locus.
I didn't get 30 on my count... Here are the kill totals I got. I guess the fused locus are why we had 3/4 of our MCC armor at the end . DL feel free to attack after the flaylock and contact grenade nerf, I'm sure you still have plenty of officer weapons after these 7 or so matches against us. |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
210
|
Posted - 2013.07.25 07:28:00 -
[79] - Quote
pamuku420tyme wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:WhiteMage7322 wrote:It doesn't matter what was used, what matters is who are the loser and the winners. There is no rules in Dust. First -There "are" no rules- is what you meant to say. Second, we all know these are what the top corporations are making agreements on what to leave out of the battle. These treaties show the entire dust community that these weapons are really broken and unbalanced. To strictly use that as a tactic for victory is shameful and shows ones weakness. hey smart guy u sit here and talk about tactics, what the hell do u think they just did? you all say "no nades in battle" so why wouldn't they exploit the fact that u are not using them and that they are BATTLING AGAINST YOU and use anything in their arsenal to kill you and obviously win. -1 for cryin on a forum. and -1 for trying to organize a battle against an opponent... yes cause that seems to work so well in real life lets try it in a game.... complete fail! Says the no-name scrub.
Nice alt there, twinky
|
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
463
|
Posted - 2013.07.25 10:01:00 -
[80] - Quote
Knight Soiaire wrote:Jotun Izalaru wrote:Wait, Dark Legion is fighting in PC?
I thought they were a flaylock-only gimmick corp. Lul. Goonfeet..... TBH, he is right |
|
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1423
|
Posted - 2013.07.25 11:59:00 -
[81] - Quote
RuckingFetard wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Jotun Izalaru wrote:Wait, Dark Legion is fighting in PC?
I thought they were a flaylock-only gimmick corp. Lul. Goonfeet..... TBH, he is right
No... but Goonfeet......
Lol |
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
13
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 00:19:00 -
[82] - Quote
Im not sure where you people are getting that DL heavily uses flaylocks. I know of Nox who uses it as a sidearm and superjoe who has ran duals occasionally but I really don't know of anyone else who is skilled in it in our corp. Sorry but we Actually have people with gun game. I wasn't in the last battle though, however I was in the FP/fused nade fest of us attacking an indy Corp with all their ringer friends, lol right, like these big Corps want anyone else in PC. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood
708
|
Posted - 2013.07.28 17:01:00 -
[83] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvBNVQe0i-c&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvBNVQe0i-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvUS87stGNU
there is 3 of the matches prolly got more. don't see much flaylock or nade spam on are side. just saying |
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 [3] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |