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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:27:00 -
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because its a computer program...
not a living creature....
you must actually be alive to die... |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
111
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:28:00 -
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Good point, so how shall we properly say that it's dying? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
870
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:29:00 -
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Two examples of why your smart-ass attempt is actually wrong:
die off To undergo a sudden, sharp decline in population: Rabbits were dying off in that county. [Dust has a population]
die out To cease living completely; become extinct: tribes and tribal customs that died out centuries ago. [tribes nor customs/cultures are technically "living" entities by your definition] |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
438
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:33:00 -
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Semantics can't **** themselves because it's an abstract concept and not a parthonogenetic animal. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
374
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:34:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Good point, so how shall we properly say that it's dying?
I would say maybe in danger of shut down.... or cancelation.... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
374
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:36:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Two examples of why your smart-ass attempt is actually wrong:
die off To undergo a sudden, sharp decline in population: Rabbits were dying off in that county. [Dust has a population]
die out To cease living completely; become extinct: tribes and tribal customs that died out centuries ago. [tribes nor customs/cultures are technically "living" entities by your definition]
lol in both examples you used living beings... rabbits and tribal people (their customs/cultures are defined by a living organism... you fail |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1371
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:37:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:da GAND wrote:Good point, so how shall we properly say that it's dying? I would say maybe in danger of shut down.... or cancelation.... I guarantee you EVE makes plenty enough money to support Dust. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
877
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:37:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:lol in both examples you used living beings... rabbits and tribal people (their customs/cultures are defined by a living organism... you fail
A set of customs is not living, though it is used and constructed by a living population, it can be modified, though.
DUST is not living, though it is used and constructed by a living population, it can be modified, though.
All computer programs are by their very nature defined by "living organisms," as they are just another language written in a very specific way. Note that it is perfectly acceptable English to announce a language as "dead."
Speaking of language, your grasp of the English language is terrible, or you are not half as clever as you think you are. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2748
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:39:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Two examples of why your smart-ass attempt is actually wrong:
die off To undergo a sudden, sharp decline in population: Rabbits were dying off in that county. [Dust has a population]
die out To cease living completely; become extinct: tribes and tribal customs that died out centuries ago. [tribes nor customs/cultures are technically "living" entities by your definition] lol in both examples you used living beings... rabbits and tribal people (their customs/cultures are defined by a living organism... you fail Tell me, would you say that a true AI isn't alive? I know it's all semantics and science fiction but it can be argued that biology isn't a requirement to being "alive". |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
378
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:39:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:da GAND wrote:Good point, so how shall we properly say that it's dying? I would say maybe in danger of shut down.... or cancelation.... I guarantee you EVE makes plenty enough money to support Dust.
I agree... and they have a contract with sony for 2 years and sell enough aur items.... I just want the sad pandas to be more accurate with their tear threads
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Killar-12
Intrepidus XI EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:40:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:da GAND wrote:Good point, so how shall we properly say that it's dying? I would say maybe in danger of shut down.... or cancelation.... I guarantee you EVE makes plenty enough money to support Dust. I agree here and CCP is stubborn let's hope it pays off. |
Celestial Fire
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:41:00 -
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op is dumb |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
378
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:41:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:lol in both examples you used living beings... rabbits and tribal people (their customs/cultures are defined by a living organism... you fail A set of customs is not living, though it is used by a living population. DUST is not living, though it is used by a living population. All computer programs are by their very nature defined by "living organisms."
your argument is moot because you are using the term of death in a slang way... no matter how adapted we are to using the term in such an abstract manner it is still inaccurate
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Xender17
Intrepidus XI EoN.
354
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:42:00 -
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This point of this topic is like the "ay" in "okay" -_- |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
378
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:43:00 -
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Celestial Fire wrote:op is dumb
now you see dumb by its very definition implies an inability to speak... I can.... |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
112
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:43:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:da GAND wrote:Good point, so how shall we properly say that it's dying? I would say maybe in danger of shut down.... or cancelation.... I guarantee you EVE makes plenty enough money to support Dust.
That's not the problem, problem is no one being here within a year |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
877
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:45:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:your argument is moot because you are using the term of death in a slang way... no matter how adapted we are to using the term in such an abstract manner it is still inaccurate
Colloquialisms are not "inaccurate," they are just traditionally not used in formal speech. You are arbitrarily declaring a sub-set of rules of the English language to be temporarily "void."
1, 2. Colloquial, conversational, informal refer to types of speech or to usages not on a formal level. Colloquial is often mistakenly used with a connotation of disapproval, as if it meant GÇ£vulgarGÇ¥ or GÇ£badGÇ¥ or GÇ£incorrectGÇ¥ usage, whereas it is merely a familiar style used in speaking and writing. Conversational refers to a style used in the oral exchange of ideas, opinions, etc.: an easy conversational style. Informal means without formality, without strict attention to set forms, unceremonious: an informal manner of speaking; it describes the ordinary, everyday language of cultivated speakers.
In short, you are simply uneducated on the matter and are in error. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
378
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:45:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Two examples of why your smart-ass attempt is actually wrong:
die off To undergo a sudden, sharp decline in population: Rabbits were dying off in that county. [Dust has a population]
die out To cease living completely; become extinct: tribes and tribal customs that died out centuries ago. [tribes nor customs/cultures are technically "living" entities by your definition] lol in both examples you used living beings... rabbits and tribal people (their customs/cultures are defined by a living organism... you fail Tell me, would you say that a true AI isn't alive? I know it's all semantics and science fiction but it can be argued that biology isn't a requirement to being "alive".
I agree... but I don't think dust has that level of AI....i.e. independent conscience thought, or the ability to interact in a meaningful way with other organisms above its simple programing... I mean c'mon its on the unreal engine... |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
535
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:46:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:because its a computer program...
not a living creature....
you must actually be alive to die...
...
delete
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1373
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:46:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:da GAND wrote:Good point, so how shall we properly say that it's dying? I would say maybe in danger of shut down.... or cancelation.... I guarantee you EVE makes plenty enough money to support Dust. That's not the problem, problem is no one being here within a year I'll still be here. So that's one person. |
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da GAND
187. League of Infamy
112
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:47:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:because its a computer program...
not a living creature....
you must actually be alive to die... ... delete WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I actually laughed for some reason after reading this lol |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
380
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:47:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:your argument is moot because you are using the term of death in a slang way... no matter how adapted we are to using the term in such an abstract manner it is still inaccurate
Colloquialisms are not "inaccurate," they are just traditionally not used in formal speech. You are arbitrarily declaring a sub-set of rules of the English language to be temporarily "void." 1, 2. Colloquial, conversational, informal refer to types of speech or to usages not on a formal level. Colloquial is often mistakenly used with a connotation of disapproval, as if it meant GÇ£vulgarGÇ¥ or GÇ£badGÇ¥ or GÇ£incorrectGÇ¥ usage, whereas it is merely a familiar style used in speaking and writing. Conversational refers to a style used in the oral exchange of ideas, opinions, etc.: an easy conversational style. Informal means without formality, without strict attention to set forms, unceremonious: an informal manner of speaking; it describes the ordinary, everyday language of cultivated speakers. In short, you are simply uneducated on the matter and are in error.
nope
and im more clever than you think.... my little fish... |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
112
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:50:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:da GAND wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:da GAND wrote:Good point, so how shall we properly say that it's dying? I would say maybe in danger of shut down.... or cancelation.... I guarantee you EVE makes plenty enough money to support Dust. That's not the problem, problem is no one being here within a year I'll still be here. So that's one person.
Might be a tiny population but I still doubt it |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
878
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:51:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:nope and im more clever than you think.... my little fish...
No, not clever, just a troll trying to be clever and funny and failing at both, especially with this obvious "miss-use" of "my little fish" where you break your own arbitrary rules.
Anywho, my dinner is now done so I'm off. Thank you for providing entertainment while I was waiting for the oven, have a pleasant day! |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
380
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:52:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:nope and im more clever than you think.... my little fish... No, not clever, just a troll trying to be clever and funny and failing at both, especially with this obvious miss-use of "my little fish" where you break even your own arbitrary rules. Anywho, my dinner is now done so I'm off. Thank you for providing entertainment while I was waiting for the oven, have a pleasant day!
run away fish! |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
193
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:53:00 -
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gbghg wrote: Tell me, would you say that a true AI isn't alive? I know it's all semantics and science fiction but it can be argued that biology isn't a requirement to being "alive".
Well that depends, are you a Turing or Searle fan? |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
112
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:54:00 -
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Hey Seymor and Xocoyol you guys are going off topic here |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
380
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:55:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Hey Seymor and Xocoyol you guys are going off topic here
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1375
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:56:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:da GAND wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: I guarantee you EVE makes plenty enough money to support Dust.
That's not the problem, problem is no one being here within a year I'll still be here. So that's one person. Might be a tiny population but I still doubt it Ok then. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2750
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:56:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:gbghg wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Two examples of why your smart-ass attempt is actually wrong:
die off To undergo a sudden, sharp decline in population: Rabbits were dying off in that county. [Dust has a population]
die out To cease living completely; become extinct: tribes and tribal customs that died out centuries ago. [tribes nor customs/cultures are technically "living" entities by your definition] lol in both examples you used living beings... rabbits and tribal people (their customs/cultures are defined by a living organism... you fail Tell me, would you say that a true AI isn't alive? I know it's all semantics and science fiction but it can be argued that biology isn't a requirement to being "alive". I agree... but I don't think dust has that level of AI....i.e. independent conscience thought, or the ability to interact in a meaningful way with other organisms above its simple programing... I mean c'mon its on the unreal engine... I wasn't using dust as an example, I was making a point that just because its a computer program or non biological doesn't mean that it's not alive, the thing is the word alive is used as a metaphor in this sense, where we attribute a biological condition to it where we can better describe and empathise with its current state. |
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