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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

ZDub 303 wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

I am saying you should try to put down the ruby colored glasses for a bit and stop being so narrow minded. I mean do you know when the bug is going to fix? do you know what else is getting fixed then? there have been hints sprinkled here and there a few players already caught it wind of it.

Its kind of hard for us all not to when we literally get no information from CCP.

You can't just post "this was not intended and will be fixed" and not expect every tanker to be in an uproar.

Literally, if all he said was "this is a bug and will be fixed in 1.4" then hey okay thats cool we already know a bunch of changes are coming in 1.4.

But he just says "in a future update".

Remember IWS, we're not all privvy to the same things you are. So you can't sit there and expect them not to be worried, us mortals get nothing but scraps from CCP most of the time.

I know just addressing people like Noc has never resulted in anything positive and hasn't been so for the last year despite being proven wrong dozens of times.

There is a meeting with the game designers and the CPM soon and we're going to get into the nitty gritty of what is being worked on while I only have small idea what can potentially be in 1.4 there is nothing solid and nothing is code locked so this is opportunity to get things adjusted before they're final.

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Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 674	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:39:00 - [1] - Quote Been on vacation since Wednesday (got married too, yay me), the QQ here feels different now. Anything massive ninja-changed?
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 906	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:43:00 - [2] - Quote Suicide is painless
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2227	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:43:00 - [3] - Quote CCP discovered a "bug" with armor tanking and are going to nerf reps by 66%. IWS of course jumps to defend this and so apologist vs hater takes center stage.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 674	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:46:00 - [4] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Suicide is painless How'd you know I watched a bunch of MASH while on vacation? Stupid hotel TV....... @Noc lol, so I've read.
Shiruba Ryou Molon Labe. League of Infamy 16	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:47:00 - [5] - Quote Yea, the River of Tears has thickened as more and more people forget that this game is a service and by no means is anything owed to them for playing it at their own free will. Oh, and for some reason the fact that this is a war game has apparently gone over everyone's head to the point that if they stand smack-dab in front of someone with no tactics or plan outside of "I'm going o kill this person" and get killed instead, they believe it is CCP's and the weapons fault. Sometimes maybe a weapon is a little to powerful, and sometimes people may have a point. But for the most part there's just a lack of thought and theory crafting.
DRE PrEaCh Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack 25	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:49:00 - [6] - Quote people who think this game is a service are idiots... why? cuz it's a business model! Game is free, you buy packs, so it's not free, nor a service. It's more like a contract :)
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6364	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:57:00 - [7] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: CCP discovered a "bug" with armor tanking and are going to nerf reps by 66%. IWS of course jumps to defend this and so apologist vs hater takes center stage. Noc assumes he knows how the developers are going to fix a bug.
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2227	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:00:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP discovered a "bug" with armor tanking and are going to nerf reps by 66%. IWS of course jumps to defend this and so apologist vs hater takes center stage. Noc assumes he knows how the developers are going to fix a bug. We know exactly what they said. They said it was giving 3x the repair they intended and they were going to fix it for 1.3. There is zero ability to misinterpret that. Maybe they are reconsidering given the massive uproar, but only in your tortured logic is that "what they meant all along".
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 909	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:00:00 - [9] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP discovered a "bug" with armor tanking and are going to nerf reps by 66%. IWS of course jumps to defend this and so apologist vs hater takes center stage. Noc assumes he knows how the developers are going to fix a bug. C'mon Wolf. How does CCP usually "Fix" things on the first attempt? It's going to be nerfed senseless and unmercifully and armor tanking will be rendered useless.
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2227	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:03:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP discovered a "bug" with armor tanking and are going to nerf reps by 66%. IWS of course jumps to defend this and so apologist vs hater takes center stage. Noc assumes he knows how the developers are going to fix a bug. C'mon Wolf. How does CCP usually "Fix" things on the first attempt? It's going to be nerfed senseless and unmercifully and armor tanking will be rendered useless. CCP for once was very explicit about the "problem" and their "solution". Yet somehow Ironwolf ignores all that to insist CCP is flawless.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5352	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:03:00 - [11] - Quote Shiruba Ryou wrote: Yea, the River of Tears has thickened as more and more people forget that this game is a service and by no means is anything owed to them for playing it at their own free will. When you charge people money for something, people tend to expect a certain degree of quality. Just because the game is free to one person doesn't mean it is to another. If CCP wants DUST to be anything other than dusty, they're going to have to seriously get their **** in gear. The public opinion of the game is already bad at best; the fact that DUST 514 is still largely unknown is actually a positive thing for us. If more people knew about this game we would be the laughing stock of the FPS "community", if we aren't already :/
Queen of Uranus Dust 514 Forum Trolls 178	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:05:00 - [12] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP discovered a "bug" with armor tanking and are going to nerf reps by 66%. IWS of course jumps to defend this and so apologist vs hater takes center stage. Noc assumes he knows how the developers are going to fix a bug. We know exactly what they said. They said it was giving 3x the repair they intended and they were going to fix it for 1.3. There is zero ability to misinterpret that. Maybe they are reconsidering given the massive uproar, but only in your tortured logic is that "what they meant all along". Be careful, I thought the merc pack agreement was pretty clear also.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 484	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:08:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc assumes he knows how the developers are going to fix a bug. A dev could have either made a more clear statement, provided a clarifying post after this uproar started, or have posted on any number of the subsequent threads. Instead, the matter is left to kick around all weekend because even though the post was made on Thrusday, no one in Iceland or Shanghai actually works on a friday, that is when they playtest. Mondays are out too, so the best we can hope for is some reply on Tuesday, which will be equally cryptic, and applauded by the likes of you as progress in the new paradigm of CCP communicating with the playerbase. Quite frankly, IWS, you have always been a cheerleader and a yes man, and that is why I never liked you, even before you got on the CPM. Amazingly, you are worse as a CPM than you were as a fan boi.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6366	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:09:00 - [14] - Quote Last time I check CCP Commander Wang doesn't fix bugs. Let me point to you another problem. How long as this bug been around?
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 4178	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:12:00 - [15] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Been on vacation since Wednesday (got married too, yay me), the QQ here feels different now. Anything massive ninja-changed? Flaylocks are the weapon to use now
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2633	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:12:00 - [16] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP discovered a "bug" with armor tanking and are going to nerf reps by 66%. IWS of course jumps to defend this and so apologist vs hater takes center stage. Noc assumes he knows how the developers are going to fix a bug. C'mon Wolf. How does CCP usually "Fix" things on the first attempt? It's going to be nerfed senseless and unmercifully and armor tanking will be rendered useless. CCP for once was very explicit about the "problem" and their "solution". Yet somehow Ironwolf ignores all that to insist CCP is flawless. I love how they're just as open as we've been asking, and about the worst thing possible.
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2228	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:13:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Last time I check CCP Commander Wang doesn't fix bugs. Let me point to you another problem. How long as this bug been around? So you are saying the community manager spoke something untrue. In that case, I relent. That's totally okay then.
Darrius Smithmage Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 0	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:15:00 - [18] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Been on vacation since Wednesday (got married too, yay me), the QQ here feels different now. Anything massive ninja-changed? Dont worry orge all the tankers left in the corp(think it just me know) have prepared for this nerf or buff my reppers av will still kill me anyway.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6366	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:18:00 - [19] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Last time I check CCP Commander Wang doesn't fix bugs. Let me point to you another problem. How long as this bug been around? So you are saying the community manager spoke something untrue. In that case, I relent. That's totally okay then. I am saying you should try to put down the ruby colored glasses for a bit and stop being so narrow minded. I mean do you know when the bug is going to fix? do you know what else is getting fixed then? there have been hints sprinkled here and there a few players already caught it wind of it.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1365	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:21:00 - [20] - Quote DRE PrEaCh wrote: people who think this game is a service are idiots... why? cuz it's a business model! Game is free, you buy packs, so it's not free, nor a service. It's more like a contract :) I've been playing this game for free except for the one $20 pack I bought (Which I still have 12k Aur left).

Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2229	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:24:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Last time I check CCP Commander Wang doesn't fix bugs. Let me point to you another problem. How long as this bug been around? So you are saying the community manager spoke something untrue. In that case, I relent. That's totally okay then. I am saying you should try to put down the ruby colored glasses for a bit and stop being so narrow minded. I mean do you know when the bug is going to fix? do you know what else is getting fixed then? there have been hints sprinkled here and there a few players already caught it wind of it. Yes, the same song and dance we have heard forever. The next patch is a small fix because the patch right after that is going to fix everythingGäó. So right now 1.4 is the patch right after next and there are promises it will end all woes without one stat, feature, or dev discussion to back it up. Just your word that a piece of paper they showed you said it would be awesome by X date. This is in any way exciting news how? Stop being so pompous. There is no value in "trusting you" or "trusting CCP". You said the same things about the new armor plates if I recall. Trust them to get it right without feedback from the REAL community first? Not a chance nor reasonable at all.
HYENAKILLER X Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 70	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:25:00 - [22] - Quote Im lvl 4 on assualt rifle sharp shooter
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 675	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:25:00 - [23] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Been on vacation since Wednesday (got married too, yay me), the QQ here feels different now. Anything massive ninja-changed? Flaylocks are the weapon to use now Wait, this is new how? Flaylocks were being used by everyone and their mother before I went on vacation.
DRE PrEaCh Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack 26	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:26:00 - [24] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: DRE PrEaCh wrote: people who think this game is a service are idiots... why? cuz it's a business model! Game is free, you buy packs, so it's not free, nor a service. It's more like a contract :) I've been playing this game for free except for the one $20 pack I bought (Which I still have 12k Aur left). You and I my friend make the business model work!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6369	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:12:00 - [25] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: ... Except one thing Noc, I am going to end it. You're fired, and I am not going to re-explain why I am firing you and don't come begging again to get unfired.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1125	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:19:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am saying you should try to put down the ruby colored glasses for a bit and stop being so narrow minded. I mean do you know when the bug is going to fix? do you know what else is getting fixed then? there have been hints sprinkled here and there a few players already caught it wind of it. Its kind of hard for us all not to when we literally get no information from CCP. You can't just post "this was not intended and will be fixed" and not expect every tanker to be in an uproar. Literally, if all he said was "this is a bug and will be fixed in 1.4" then hey okay thats cool we already know a bunch of changes are coming in 1.4. But he just says "in a future update". Remember IWS, we're not all privvy to the same things you are. So you can't sit there and expect them not to be worried, us mortals get nothing but scraps from CCP most of the time.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6370	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:51:00 - [27] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am saying you should try to put down the ruby colored glasses for a bit and stop being so narrow minded. I mean do you know when the bug is going to fix? do you know what else is getting fixed then? there have been hints sprinkled here and there a few players already caught it wind of it. Its kind of hard for us all not to when we literally get no information from CCP. You can't just post "this was not intended and will be fixed" and not expect every tanker to be in an uproar. Literally, if all he said was "this is a bug and will be fixed in 1.4" then hey okay thats cool we already know a bunch of changes are coming in 1.4. But he just says "in a future update". Remember IWS, we're not all privvy to the same things you are. So you can't sit there and expect them not to be worried, us mortals get nothing but scraps from CCP most of the time. I know just addressing people like Noc has never resulted in anything positive and hasn't been so for the last year despite being proven wrong dozens of times. There is a meeting with the game designers and the CPM soon and we're going to get into the nitty gritty of what is being worked on while I only have small idea what can potentially be in 1.4 there is nothing solid and nothing is code locked so this is opportunity to get things adjusted before they're final.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 490	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:42:00 - [28] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am saying you should try to put down the ruby colored glasses for a bit and stop being so narrow minded. I mean do you know when the bug is going to fix? do you know what else is getting fixed then? there have been hints sprinkled here and there a few players already caught it wind of it. Its kind of hard for us all not to when we literally get no information from CCP. You can't just post "this was not intended and will be fixed" and not expect every tanker to be in an uproar. Literally, if all he said was "this is a bug and will be fixed in 1.4" then hey okay thats cool we already know a bunch of changes are coming in 1.4. But he just says "in a future update". Remember IWS, we're not all privvy to the same things you are. So you can't sit there and expect them not to be worried, us mortals get nothing but scraps from CCP most of the time. I know just addressing people like Noc has never resulted in anything positive and hasn't been so for the last year despite being proven wrong dozens of times. There is a meeting with the game designers and the CPM soon and we're going to get into the nitty gritty of what is being worked on while I only have small idea what can potentially be in 1.4 there is nothing solid and nothing is code locked so this is opportunity to get things adjusted before they're final. So there is going to be a meeting where a bunch of non vehicle users are going to give advice to devs who have already proven balance is beyond them. This will turn out great. No discussions with the vehicle users, and you want people to have faith? What has CCP implemented without feedback that has gone over well? Only one that wasn't a complete flop was the scrambler rifle.
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2234	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:19:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I know just addressing people like Noc has never resulted in anything positive and hasn't been so for the last year despite being proven wrong dozens of times. There is a meeting with the game designers and the CPM soon and we're going to get into the nitty gritty of what is being worked on while I only have small idea what can potentially be in 1.4 there is nothing solid and nothing is code locked so this is opportunity to get things adjusted before they're final. Nothing positive eh? Because I'm critical and actually know a thing or two about product development, software design, and have some ideas on game balance that I promote? Your arrogance knows no bounds. You are a shill. An apologist of the highest magnitude. You are allowed to believe in the company. The issue that I cannot abide is claiming everyone else is delusional for not sharing your blind faith. I don't even know what to do about the stupidity of claiming to "fire" me... are you perhaps thinking you have some sort of power that you don't?
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 528	Posted - 2013.07.22 02:35:00 - [30] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: ... Except one thing Noc, I am going to end it. You're fired, and I am not going to re-explain why I am firing you and don't come begging again to get unfired. You alright up there IWS



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