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Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 75	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:48:00 - [1] - Quote Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that...
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:51:00 - [2] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 581	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:52:00 - [3] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol Yes, because it happens all the time. Edit:though I don't have proto nades, I have tossed 3 advance or packed and 3 proto swarm vollys many a time.
Xender17 Intrepidus XI EoN. 347	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:53:00 - [4] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol ^agreed.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 125	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:55:00 - [5] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol Someone not on a phone do the math of how much damage 5 packed Lai dai and wyrkomi 3 swarms do. Make sure to factor in his 27% bonus from complex damage mods and 29% bonus to armor. I doubt this tank had the 20k armor necesary to be at half health after all this.
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:56:00 - [6] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol Yes, because it happens all the time. Edit:though I don't have proto nades, I have tossed 3 advance or packed and 3 proto swarm vollys many a time. wel here's the math. 5 proto nades do over 10k damage. then the proto swarms with said stats do over 3.5k damage in total this over 20k damage assuming no weak spots were hit. and he's saying it was repping itself afterwords. Lol
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 581	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:57:00 - [7] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol Someone not on a phone do the math of how much damage 5 packed Lai dai and wyrkomi 3 swarms do. Make sure to factor in his 27% bonus from complex damage mods and 29% bonus to armor. I doubt this tank had the 20k armor necesary to be at half health after all this. Don't forget to factor in shields, minus the 20 percent for DMG done to them also please factor in the armour Hardee's or mods and a heavy armour repper.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 75	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:58:00 - [8] - Quote I have no reason to lie about it, people that have proto swarms and nades knows how it goes. All damage done comes right back is it drives back to the redline.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3432	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:59:00 - [9] - Quote It's not unebelieveable. I saw a tanker survive three people with proto swarms trying to take him down. I really think tanks being underpowered is exaggerated.
DRE PrEaCh Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack 25	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:59:00 - [10] - Quote you throw those av nades like a girl :) who knows, maybe the hits didn't register? lag? bad toss, maybe the guy in the tank was fat, so his belly was hanging out, when u threw the nade, it bounced off his belly and exploded beside the tank causing little to no damage. i know ccp has some "dead" code in the game, it could have been activated and caused this malfunction u speak of... it could happen u know

Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2446	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:00:00 - [11] - Quote Very true- tankers ask for prototype tanks, while standard tanks still need proto AV to destroy them
Beld Errmon D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 743	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:01:00 - [12] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... 2 things could invalidate your BS, either the tanker was very good, or you are Fing terrible. I've jumped out of dropships into the redline and killed madrugers in 15 seconds flat with protoswarms, packed AV nades and 8% worth dmg mods. Seriously if you ppl have trouble killing tanks with proto AV gear you need to uninstall the game and never look back because you are total scrubs who have no skill whatsoever and I really hope you don't go and breed.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 77	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:02:00 - [13] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol Someone not on a phone do the math of how much damage 5 packed Lai dai and wyrkomi 3 swarms do. Make sure to factor in his 27% bonus from complex damage mods and 29% bonus to armor. I doubt this tank had the 20k armor necesary to be at half health after all this. I dont use lai dais they rarely register.
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:02:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It's not unebelieveable. I saw a tanker survive three people with proto swarms trying to take him down. I really think tanks being underpowered is exaggerated. were they shooting armor or shields?
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 158	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:03:00 - [15] - Quote If you had said it was a LLAV I would have believed you.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1114	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:04:00 - [16] - Quote All I can think when I see this is... "You're bad and you should feel bad". With that much damage in the proper hands, I can't think of any tank that could survive.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 619	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:06:00 - [17] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... 2 things could invalidate your BS, either the tanker was very good, or you are Fing terrible. I've jumped out of dropships into the redline and killed madrugers in 15 seconds flat with protoswarms, packed AV nades and 8% worth dmg mods. Seriously if you ppl have trouble killing tanks with proto AV gear you need to uninstall the game and never look back because you are total scrubs who have no skill whatsoever and I really hope you don't go and breed. If the server god is smiling at you then YES! but if the server god is frowning at you then NO! even with a wyrkomi swarm launcher and four damage mods and prototype AV grenades ...sigh .
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 77	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:06:00 - [18] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... 2 things could invalidate your BS, either the tanker was very good, or you are Fing terrible. I've jumped out of dropships into the redline and killed madrugers in 15 seconds flat with protoswarms, packed AV nades and 8% worth dmg mods. Seriously if you ppl have trouble killing tanks with proto AV gear you need to uninstall the game and never look back because you are total scrubs who have no skill whatsoever and I really hope you don't go and breed. What skill does it take? Throw grenade, hold r1, and have u considered not all tanks are built the same?
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 619	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:09:00 - [19] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: All I can think when I see this is... "You're bad and you should feel bad". With that much damage in the proper hands, I can't think of any tank that could survive. LAAAAAG and bad code is whats sometimes creating UP situations and OP situations in infantry and vehicles.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1412	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:09:00 - [20] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol Someone not on a phone do the math of how much damage 5 packed Lai dai and wyrkomi 3 swarms do. Make sure to factor in his 27% bonus from complex damage mods and 29% bonus to armor. I doubt this tank had the 20k armor necesary to be at half health after all this. Edit make sure the swarms shots also get a further 50% bonus from hitting the tank in the rear as it was "running away" Dont forget to factor in the shield resist at first and the repair rate, and since the tank was driving away there would be an increasing gap between damage spikes on top of the lock on time and the cool down time after firing the swarms If you want the math done right you need to account for all the variables

Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 324	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:11:00 - [21] - Quote It's believable. Depends on the travel time of everything. I've hunted countless madrugars that, if they weren't my LOS for about 5 seconds then the couple seconds for a swarm lock, they'd go from a sliver of health to a full bar of armor. It's not unheard of.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 619	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:12:00 - [22] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol Someone not on a phone do the math of how much damage 5 packed Lai dai and wyrkomi 3 swarms do. Make sure to factor in his 27% bonus from complex damage mods and 29% bonus to armor. I doubt this tank had the 20k armor necesary to be at half health after all this. I dont use lai dais they rarely register. WAIT! lai days grenades are bugged?? and here I was trying to kill militia jeeps...lol and haveing conflicting results.
Beld Errmon D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 743	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:13:00 - [23] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... 2 things could invalidate your BS, either the tanker was very good, or you are Fing terrible. I've jumped out of dropships into the redline and killed madrugers in 15 seconds flat with protoswarms, packed AV nades and 8% worth dmg mods. Seriously if you ppl have trouble killing tanks with proto AV gear you need to uninstall the game and never look back because you are total scrubs who have no skill whatsoever and I really hope you don't go and breed. What skill does it take? Throw grenade, hold r1, and have u considered not all tanks are built the same? And thats where your wrong, and I have absolutely no intention of helping you in anyway, maybe your local community college has a course in how not to be **** with swarms, or basic AV tactics for dummies.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 77	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:15:00 - [24] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: All I can think when I see this is... "You're bad and you should feel bad". With that much damage in the proper hands, I can't think of any tank that could survive. Im bad bcause the tank im hitting with proto av doesnt die lolol, makes sense, it eventually went down after hunting it the entire game.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1114	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:20:00 - [25] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All I can think when I see this is... "You're bad and you should feel bad". With that much damage in the proper hands, I can't think of any tank that could survive. Im bad bcause the tank im hitting with proto av doesnt die lolol, makes sense, it eventually went down after hunting it the entire game. Honestly though.. You must have suffered hit detection issues or something. I can't think of a tank that could survive that much dps. I've thrown 5 hacked Ex-0 nades at high high level maddys and watched them get down to about 20% armor. This was through reps. You sure all 5 nades and all of the swarm missiles actually landed?
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1368	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:21:00 - [26] - Quote I call bullshit on your story, I was getting hit by some Proto AV (Swarms) dude, that was doing 2k damage to my Gunnlogi. Of course I recalled it, and he flipped.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 619	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:23:00 - [27] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All I can think when I see this is... "You're bad and you should feel bad". With that much damage in the proper hands, I can't think of any tank that could survive. Im bad bcause the tank im hitting with proto av doesnt die lolol, makes sense, it eventually went down after hunting it the entire game. E3 2012 with nine forge guns versus a sagaris and that tank driver goes 45 and 0 then has the cheek to post asking about a buff to sagaris tanks.....lol.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 79	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:23:00 - [28] - Quote I love how my RL intelligence and skill is insulted by 1/countless tanks ive destroyed was taking an abnormal amount of damage. Welcome to the forums much?
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 619	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:25:00 - [29] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All I can think when I see this is... "You're bad and you should feel bad". With that much damage in the proper hands, I can't think of any tank that could survive. Im bad bcause the tank im hitting with proto av doesnt die lolol, makes sense, it eventually went down after hunting it the entire game. Honestly though.. You must have suffered hit detection issues or something. I can't think of a tank that could survive that much dps. I've thrown 5 hacked Ex-0 nades at high high level maddys and watched them get down to about 20% armor. This was through reps. You sure all 5 nades and all of the swarm missiles actually landed? oceania server you up for some tests ????
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood 391	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:27:00 - [30] - Quote The only ones who say tanks are underpowered are the ones who fit them to be glass cannons and don't fit them to tank.

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 620	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:31:00 - [31] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: The only ones who say tanks are underpowered are the ones who fit them to be glass cannons and don't fit them to tank. agreed.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1115	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:32:00 - [32] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: All I can think when I see this is... "You're bad and you should feel bad". With that much damage in the proper hands, I can't think of any tank that could survive. Im bad bcause the tank im hitting with proto av doesnt die lolol, makes sense, it eventually went down after hunting it the entire game. Honestly though.. You must have suffered hit detection issues or something. I can't think of a tank that could survive that much dps. I've thrown 5 hacked Ex-0 nades at high high level maddys and watched them get down to about 20% armor. This was through reps. You sure all 5 nades and all of the swarm missiles actually landed? oceania server you up for some tests ???? I have neither a high level maddy nor wiyrkomi swarms though, so nothing we could really test.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 848	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:46:00 - [33] - Quote If it was a shield tank, and long intervals between hits, I might have believed this... But I can't. Something missed in your attacks, a lot of something.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 92	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:03:00 - [34] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... Your proto suit doesn't cost over 2 million ISK and that's for a STD, meh fit tank with just an okay turret. Maybe if your post had more information about the tank. It very likely was a shield tank, so it will just eat your swarms and AV grenades for breakfast. You should use some AV that actually requires skill If it's not a shield tank, you're just a liar.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1365	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:08:00 - [35] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's not unebelieveable. I saw a tanker survive three people with proto swarms trying to take him down. I really think tanks being underpowered is exaggerated. were they shooting armor or shields? Shield tanks are easier for me to destroy then armor. (Flux grenades anyone?)
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1365	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:15:00 - [36] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... Your proto suit doesn't cost over 2 million ISK and that's for a STD, meh fit tank with just an okay turret. Maybe if your post had more information about the tank. It very likely was a shield tank, so it will just eat your swarms and AV grenades for breakfast. You should use some AV that actually requires skill If it's not a shield tank, you're just a liar. Can you tell me what AV requires skill? Don't say Plasma Cannon because everyone knows that's an anti infantry weapon.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 126	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:16:00 - [37] - Quote Someone give me the stats on packed Lai dai and wyrkomi. I'll show you how impossible this is.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1365	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:18:00 - [38] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Someone give me the stats on packed Lai dai and wyrkomi. I'll show you how impossible this is. Proto swarms = 1980 total damage and 330 per swarms. I'm not in the game so I can't tell you the av grenades damage.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1124	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:28:00 - [39] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Someone give me the stats on packed Lai dai and wyrkomi. I'll show you how impossible this is. Lai Dai Packed are 1760 hp Direct Damage. However... OP said he was using Wiyrkomi AV Nades too.
Gogo O'Dell Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:34:00 - [40] - Quote If you have proto AV of any kind and you cant solo a tank, you are bad at what you do bc all the good tankers have left and no hav u encounter will be that good. you suck at AV. go ask someone like Cubs or D S (actualy AV players) how easy it is to kill a tank. They'll tell you the same thing I did- you suck.

DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 802	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:56:00 - [41] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... Yup, all the tankers are heavy in QQ mode about how weak and useless they are, but when you are the one with AV trying to take them out, you quickly recognize their QQ as irrelevant and know all they want is to be invincible. Couple of nights ago me and a full squad joined into a near empty OMS match (it was like 6 vs 6 the entire time). We had played the same guys in the previous match and knew they would be tanking, so we brought some AV to deal with the tank. Well, we chased that thing all over the map, constantly hitting with swarms and proto AV nades, then we finally cornered it. Swarms and AV nades were slamming into the tank over and over and over, it just shrugs most of it off as insect bites... then it tries to drives away once we finally whittled down it's health, gimping on fire, and the last swarm volley finally got it (although it almost made it away safely). You want to know the scary thing about this is? Tankers don't even have proto since CCP took it away somewhat recently. Just imagine how invincible they would be if they got buffed AND got their proto tanks back.
Mintqueer Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:14:00 - [42] - Quote Bad AV users shouldn't have a say on vehicle matter, unless you blow a 100 tanks from top 10 tankers then there is a say
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2011	Posted - 2013.07.22 00:19:00 - [43] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Very true- tankers ask for prototype tanks, while standard tanks still need proto AV to destroy them Bad. Getting Prototype Tanks in would mean we could effectively balance the entire thing, meaning Prototype swarms would obliterate Standard Tanks, whereas Standard AV would never be a significant counter to Prototype Tanks unless there's a crew of standard AVers fighting it. Also, I covered your problems here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96292&find=unread
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 127	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:24:00 - [44] - Quote 4913 dmg done from the swarms assuming they didn't hit the sweet spot. 8180 dmg done from the grenades. What tank takes 13k dmg and is at half health? No tank. Ever. This assumes the tank had a hardener running. No tank has 26k ehp. No tank ever.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1369	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:28:00 - [45] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: 4913 dmg done from the swarms assuming they didn't hit the sweet spot. 8180 dmg done from the grenades. What tank takes 13k dmg and is at half health? No tank. Ever. This assumes the tank had a hardener running. No tank has 26k ehp. No tank ever. Armor repairs quite fast though. I've had tanks that have gave me a run for my money but not quite this bad. Anyways OP is not good at AV and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dumbass.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 127	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:30:00 - [46] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: 4913 dmg done from the swarms assuming they didn't hit the sweet spot. 8180 dmg done from the grenades. What tank takes 13k dmg and is at half health? No tank. Ever. This assumes the tank had a hardener running. No tank has 26k ehp. No tank ever. Armor repairs quite fast though. I've had tanks that have gave me a run for my money but not quite this bad. Anyways OP is not good at AV and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dumbass. Go ahead and do the math. No tank takes 13k dmg and is at half health. Literally impossible.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1369	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:30:00 - [47] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Very true- tankers ask for prototype tanks, while standard tanks still need proto AV to destroy them I destroy tanks all the time with advanced AV. Only a few I had to take out my proto AV (It usually is that I died a couple of times and get mad and just want them off the field at that point)
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1369	Posted - 2013.07.22 01:34:00 - [48] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: 4913 dmg done from the swarms assuming they didn't hit the sweet spot. 8180 dmg done from the grenades. What tank takes 13k dmg and is at half health? No tank. Ever. This assumes the tank had a hardener running. No tank has 26k ehp. No tank ever. Armor repairs quite fast though. I've had tanks that have gave me a run for my money but not quite this bad. Anyways OP is not good at AV and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dumbass. Go ahead and do the math. No tank takes 13k dmg and is at half health. Literally impossible. Well I believe you man. Just saying that I have had problems with tanks like this before. (Not quite this bad though lol) I don't think they're OP either. (I actually want shield tanks to be buffed instead of armor tanks being nerfed)
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 87	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:41:00 - [49] - Quote Gogo O'Dell wrote: If you have proto AV of any kind and you cant solo a tank, you are bad at what you do bc all the good tankers have left and no hav u encounter will be that good. you suck at AV. go ask someone like Cubs or D S (actualy AV players) how easy it is to kill a tank. They'll tell you the same thing I did- you suck. How is a forge gunner relevant to this situation? Swarms and forge are nothing alike, and once again this is 1 incident with 1 tank out of countless tanks ive destroyed.
Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1287	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:43:00 - [50] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... it took 4 proto nades to kill my gunnlogi, and they have a natural resistance to explosives. try again bro.

SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 39	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:43:00 - [51] - Quote a shield tankers response to this thread - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCBOp-4U8OM
DRDEEZE TWO POINTO Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 44	Posted - 2013.07.22 05:02:00 - [52] - Quote You probably only hit it once with the nades and the swarms hit a structure.
Lorhak Gannarsein DUST University Ivy League 73	Posted - 2013.07.22 05:16:00 - [53] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: 4913 dmg done from the swarms assuming they didn't hit the sweet spot. 8180 dmg done from the grenades. What tank takes 13k dmg and is at half health? No tank. Ever. This assumes the tank had a hardener running. No tank has 26k ehp. No tank ever. Armor repairs quite fast though. I've had tanks that have gave me a run for my money but not quite this bad. Anyways OP is not good at AV and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dumbass. 16k, maybe 17k is the most you can possibly get out of a Maddy; this includes reps. This guy's just bad.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3435	Posted - 2013.07.22 08:09:00 - [54] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's not unebelieveable. I saw a tanker survive three people with proto swarms trying to take him down. I really think tanks being underpowered is exaggerated. were they shooting armor or shields? I saw both an armor and a shield tank survive that.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 527	Posted - 2013.07.22 08:52:00 - [55] - Quote Just record a video of these. Shouldn't be too hard to arrange eh? I've been shooting and grenadeing tanks somewhat myself and have seen them survive in what seems to be impossible situations. You all know it, you've all seen it. Tanks surviving where they really shouldn't.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 55	Posted - 2013.07.22 09:24:00 - [56] - Quote Balancing AV vs Vehicles at the current state is pretty difiicult. On the one hand we have Proto AV and the other hand only standard vehicles. Of course proto AV should be pretty effective vs standard gear. But CCP tries to somehow balance that so standard HAV stand a chance vs. Proto AV thats stupid. They should balance standard AV versus Standard vehicles (and remove Proto AV when the standard gear is balanced unless proto vehicles are in). But I think it should always be possible to solo any vehicle of the same metalevel (not easy but possible) if you are good in AV otherwise vehicles become gamebreaking powerfull. Right now its hard to decide if both parts are balanced I got very mixed results with my proto AV. There are tanks that can take several hits from multiple AV Guys and that are really hard to destroy and then there are tanks that go down pretty fast ( a lot faster than they should). The one thing that is totally out of balance is thats more difficult to bring down good fitted LAVs than it is to bring down HAVs thats not right. Light Attack vehicles should be very fast and fragile but now they are fast and more durable than tanks.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 704	Posted - 2013.07.22 09:49:00 - [57] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... lolno Only way that tank can survive is if big ******* if that at least 3 of your nades miss and all 3 swarms missed But i dont believe you in the slightest I played a PC match yday against SI Half the time my shield didnt exist and other tanks were not that much of a problem It was the infantry will lolswarms and lolavnades Even with my repper on the both resistance mods i still got 2 shot by lolprotoswarms because they bend around corners So with everything running i get 2 shot by protoswarms with prob at least 3damage mods on, so taking an extra volley and 5 proto AV nades called Lai Dai and that tank survived i call utter BS on that scenario
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 259	Posted - 2013.07.22 09:51:00 - [58] - Quote .
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 343	Posted - 2013.07.22 10:08:00 - [59] - Quote i want to see the video of a madrugar surviving the treatment, then i will believe. I haven't problems to kill madrugars with my AV fit, std packed AV +adv swarm + 2 adv damage mods. I really want to try this Proto swarm with complex damage mods to see what i can do.
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 773	Posted - 2013.07.22 10:27:00 - [60] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... lolno Only way that tank can survive is if big ******* if that at least 3 of your nades miss and all 3 swarms missed But i dont believe you in the slightest I played a PC match yday against SI Half the time my shield didnt exist and other tanks were not that much of a problem It was the infantry will lolswarms and lolavnades Even with my repper on the both resistance mods i still got 2 shot by lolprotoswarms because they bend around corners So with everything running i get 2 shot by protoswarms with prob at least 3damage mods on, so taking an extra volley and 5 proto AV nades called Lai Dai and that tank survived i call utter BS on that scenario Lol your so full of sh*t its unreal. 2 shot by proto swarms lol epic.

Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 237	Posted - 2013.07.22 10:32:00 - [61] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... that tank driver had proto plates and repair tools.....and he probably had proto hardeners to.......guy must have been pretty damn good to absorb that much punishment.....any one else would have just poofed..
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 704	Posted - 2013.07.22 10:40:00 - [62] - Quote Sir Meode wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... lolno Only way that tank can survive is if big ******* if that at least 3 of your nades miss and all 3 swarms missed But i dont believe you in the slightest I played a PC match yday against SI Half the time my shield didnt exist and other tanks were not that much of a problem It was the infantry will lolswarms and lolavnades Even with my repper on the both resistance mods i still got 2 shot by lolprotoswarms because they bend around corners So with everything running i get 2 shot by protoswarms with prob at least 3damage mods on, so taking an extra volley and 5 proto AV nades called Lai Dai and that tank survived i call utter BS on that scenario Lol your so full of sh*t its unreal. 2 shot by proto swarms lol epic. 2shot its true Everything running Maybe if i had my shield then maybe it may have been 3 shot
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 0	Posted - 2013.07.22 11:46:00 - [63] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Someone give me the stats on packed Lai dai and wyrkomi. I'll show you how impossible this is. Proto swarms = 1980 total damage and 330 per missile. I'm not in the game so I can't tell you the av grenades damage. My Wiyrkomi + 3 lvl prof. + 3x10%dm = 6*454,6=2727,6 in total
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3359	Posted - 2013.07.22 12:13:00 - [64] - Quote Maxed out on all even remotely relevant skills, and with a Proto-heavy fitting, I can see the possibility that an armour tank MIGHT be able to take this level of punishment and not die. Obviously it was a good tank, and a great driver. But the same scenario with a shield tank? NOPE. You're comparing the decently-balanced tank model and claiming that because the one which is about to see a nerf is operating on a competent level, all tanks are fine. Cool story. Madrugars aren't too bad. The real problem is when you try running a Sica or Gunnlogi.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 705	Posted - 2013.07.22 12:22:00 - [65] - Quote QRT30 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Someone give me the stats on packed Lai dai and wyrkomi. I'll show you how impossible this is. Proto swarms = 1980 total damage and 330 per missile. I'm not in the game so I can't tell you the av grenades damage. My Wiyrkomi + 3 lvl prof. + 3x10%dm = 6*454,6=2727,6 in total You forgot to add in 20% extra damage because of bonus to armor damage Swarms do 120% damage to armor
castba Penguin's March 38	Posted - 2013.07.22 12:34:00 - [66] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: The only ones who say tanks are underpowered are the ones who fit them to be glass cannons and don't fit them to tank. Yep, I love hunting tanks but having a shield tanked tank handle 6 shots from my Wir breach forge gun (2 comp damage mods + prof 4) was interesting. 7th shot got him, but damn! Also should mention that he went 27/1 that game.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3360	Posted - 2013.07.22 12:41:00 - [67] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: QRT30 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Someone give me the stats on packed Lai dai and wyrkomi. I'll show you how impossible this is. Proto swarms = 1980 total damage and 330 per missile. I'm not in the game so I can't tell you the av grenades damage. My Wiyrkomi + 3 lvl prof. + 3x10%dm = 6*454,6=2727,6 in total You forgot to add in 20% extra damage because of bonus to armor damage Swarms do 120% damage to armor The first volley will hit shields at reduced damage though, so you need to count that too.
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 773	Posted - 2013.07.22 12:42:00 - [68] - Quote castba wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: The only ones who say tanks are underpowered are the ones who fit them to be glass cannons and don't fit them to tank. Yep, I love hunting tanks but having a shield tanked tank handle 6 shots from my Wir breach forge gun (2 comp damage mods + prof 4) was interesting. 7th shot got him, but damn! Also should mention that he went 27/1 that game. Go home your drunk That is not believable, 6 shots on a shield tank from a proto breach?? just b*llocks
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 705	Posted - 2013.07.22 12:56:00 - [69] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: QRT30 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Someone give me the stats on packed Lai dai and wyrkomi. I'll show you how impossible this is. Proto swarms = 1980 total damage and 330 per missile. I'm not in the game so I can't tell you the av grenades damage. My Wiyrkomi + 3 lvl prof. + 3x10%dm = 6*454,6=2727,6 in total You forgot to add in 20% extra damage because of bonus to armor damage Swarms do 120% damage to armor The first volley will hit shields at reduced damage though, so you need to count that too. Chances are your shields are mostly gone anyways Mine never stick around long enough
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 87	Posted - 2013.07.22 13:41:00 - [70] - Quote one word "RESISTANCE"

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 706	Posted - 2013.07.22 14:43:00 - [71] - Quote negative49er wrote: one word "RESISTANCE" Resistance never had vehicles in I got resistance 3 with my new PS3 and it was **** i didnt like it but also no vehicles So your point?
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 127	Posted - 2013.07.22 15:09:00 - [72] - Quote The tank did not have 26k HP. You're lying. To the guy who said a gunnlogi took 6 proto shots from a forge, you're lying aswell. Don't make **** up. It's not good.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 502	Posted - 2013.07.22 15:14:00 - [73] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: The tank did not have 26k HP. You're lying. To the guy who said a gunnlogi took 6 proto shots from a forge, you're lying aswell. Don't make **** up. It's not good. Don't talk like that to infantry. If CCP hears you they will nerf tanks and buff AV grenades so that standard nades do 6000 damage per nade.
Cy Clone1 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 151	Posted - 2013.07.22 15:35:00 - [74] - Quote maybe its because your dealing with a mady and not a shield tank. Im assuming you didn't know that the armor tanks reps are broken! They are healing 3x what they should! So this could be why your not able to solo an armor tank.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2031	Posted - 2013.07.22 15:41:00 - [75] - Quote Bad thread. /thread
Banned From Forums Shining Flame Amarr Empire 184	Posted - 2013.07.22 15:46:00 - [76] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: I have no reason to lie about it, people that have proto swarms and nades knows how it goes. All damage done comes right back is it drives back to the redline. Bullshit. I have taken the best takers including Mavado, Bob, Slap, Covert, Void, Caeli etc out with 3 la di das and 2 shots from a MD. You are full of ****!
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 101	Posted - 2013.07.22 21:49:00 - [77] - Quote Funny thing about forums is people dont read throught for details, it was mentioned twice i dont use lai dai nades, i use wiyrkomi, which is barely better than a std packed. Packed nades have a weird registation for me, normal ones are much more consistent. As if it matters, just an experience with a tank i had, if i said i saw a man kill a tiger with his bare hand you say its bs, so why beat a dead horse?
castba Penguin's March 39	Posted - 2013.07.23 04:21:00 - [78] - Quote Sir Meode wrote: castba wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: The only ones who say tanks are underpowered are the ones who fit them to be glass cannons and don't fit them to tank. Yep, I love hunting tanks but having a shield tanked tank handle 6 shots from my Wir breach forge gun (2 comp damage mods + prof 4) was interesting. 7th shot got him, but damn! Also should mention that he went 27/1 that game. Go home your drunk That is not believable, 6 shots on a shield tank from a proto breach?? just b*llocks Haha, I wish. Was true and did happen. User was INMATE followed by a ton of numbers. Forge is 10% weaker against shields, but still. I also could not believe that he didn't GTFO of there... Not that I minded.
Markul Gartel Not Guilty EoN. 3	Posted - 2013.07.23 04:23:00 - [79] - Quote I hardly get away from swarms...melts be honest tanks hide in corners they do not have the ability to play as designed
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 47	Posted - 2013.07.23 04:27:00 - [80] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: maybe its because your dealing with a mady and not a shield tank. Im assuming you didn't know that the armor tanks reps are broken! They are healing 3x what they should! So this could be why your not able to solo an armor tank. directed at Op and anyone who uses mads as the bases for their argument against tanks. they've been broken day 1 and no one had problems killing armor tanks solo. wat is ur point. he is just bad and/or lying.

castba Penguin's March 39	Posted - 2013.07.23 04:27:00 - [81] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: The tank did not have 26k HP. You're lying. To the guy who said a gunnlogi took 6 proto shots from a forge, you're lying aswell. Don't make **** up. It's not good. I stand by my statement. Don't like it? Fine, believe what you want. I don't know which tank he was using but I am telling you know that it ate more than its fair share from my forge.
Ld Collins TransStellar Empire Defense Force 20	Posted - 2013.07.23 05:03:00 - [82] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... Even thought its pretty obvious that youre lying you realise that you are 1 person on a team of 16 one person taking out a tank should be ubsurd it happens very often though. The lies we tell if a tank goes 50-0 which they dont its because your team let that tanker do it. If you catch a tank off guard you could easily destroy it with av nades and swarms solo. castba wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: The tank did not have 26k HP. You're lying. To the guy who said a gunnlogi took 6 proto shots from a forge, you're lying aswell. Don't make **** up. It's not good. I stand by my statement. Don't like it? Fine, believe what you want. I don't know which tank he was using but I am telling you know that it ate more than its fair share from my forge. Theres no way in hell that happened unless the tank escaped and healed his shields a gunnlogi with 7k shields can probably take 3 shots from a proto forge that 4th shot would have probaby been the end of the tank.
The legend345 TeamPlayers EoN. 787	Posted - 2013.07.23 05:32:00 - [83] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... Im going to end this without any bs :). If your haven't driven a tank stfu :). You'll see real quickly why we petition :).
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization 49	Posted - 2013.07.23 05:55:00 - [84] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol You must not play AV. (Forge gun doesn't count, as that is multi-purpose and actually destroys stuff)
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization 49	Posted - 2013.07.23 05:58:00 - [85] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol Someone not on a phone do the math of how much damage 5 packed Lai dai and wyrkomi 3 swarms do. Make sure to factor in his 27% bonus from complex damage mods and 29% bonus to armor. I doubt this tank had the 20k armor necesary to be at half health after all this. Edit make sure the swarms shots also get a further 50% bonus from hitting the tank in the rear as it was "running away" Assuming he wasn't going in reverse. I can tell you like to make assumptions without warrants.
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 53	Posted - 2013.07.23 05:59:00 - [86] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... u threw 5 proto nades and 3 proto swarms and an armor tank lives? U expect anyone to believe tht. Lol You must not play AV. (Forge gun doesn't count, as that is multi-purpose and actually destroys stuff) i've used av nades and i've used swarms. i don't specialize in them. but i have specialized imto tht forge gun. and i don't have to specialize into it to tell u the stats. it's all numbers use tht calculator every computer comes with.
demonkiller 12 Seraphim Auxiliaries 137	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:36:00 - [87] - Quote Sir Meode wrote: castba wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: The only ones who say tanks are underpowered are the ones who fit them to be glass cannons and don't fit them to tank. Yep, I love hunting tanks but having a shield tanked tank handle 6 shots from my Wir breach forge gun (2 comp damage mods + prof 4) was interesting. 7th shot got him, but damn! Also should mention that he went 27/1 that game. Go home your drunk That is not believable, 6 shots on a shield tank from a proto breach?? just b*llocks ive put 5 wyka breach shots into dunas tank prof at 1 and no dmg mods, barely got through his shield and then i died so lets assume 2.9k per shot 18s to fire full clip + reload time and another 4.5 for next shot so over like 25? seconds he has 6.2k shield with 42?% resist but im still doing +20% dmg to him i should have done like 17.4k dmg?? so he has 6.2k shield with 42% resis bringing him to little under 9k hp + his complex shield booster, he shouldnt have survived but somehow he did
BLKDG RoyalSquad514 68	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:40:00 - [88] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... 2 things could invalidate your BS, either the tanker was very good, or you are Fing terrible. I've jumped out of dropships into the redline and killed madrugers in 15 seconds flat with protoswarms, packed AV nades and 8% worth dmg mods. Seriously if you ppl have trouble killing tanks with proto AV gear you need to uninstall the game and never look back because you are total scrubs who have no skill whatsoever and I really hope you don't go and breed. Well aren't you miss sunshine
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 81	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:55:00 - [89] - Quote As a tanker AND someone skilled up into Swarms I can safely say AV is over powered by a long shot. Give me any tank on the field and sit me on a tower (or i'll fly myself up) and the tanks dead within 60 seconds max. I only use ADV swarms. People who keep bitching about tanks need to drive them and then they'll understand. Edit - and by bitching Im talking about saying they are OP.
Rynoceros Rise of Old Dudes 580	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:02:00 - [90] - Quote How many of those projectiles hit dirt and how many grenades actually landed? I was forging a HAV last night with another guy, who was actually skilled into them, and as fast as we were popping shots, he was repping armor. No signs of a LLAV up there either. All of you other AV whiners need to take note from that guy.

Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven 1207	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:05:00 - [91] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: I have no reason to lie about it, people that have proto swarms and nades knows how it goes. All damage done comes right back is it drives back to the redline. Would you like an under barrel orbital attachment, too? You are obviously terrible at AV. Htfu.
R'adeh Hunt the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:16:00 - [92] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Wiyrkomi swarms, 3 complex dmg mods. Chasing down railgun tank on mountain. Drop nanos, spam proto nades (5). While tank drives away, i let off 3 swarm attack. LOLunderpowered tank leaves with half health replenishing everything that has damaged it. I lol @ your petitions, the qq threads... I agree tanks deserve a price cut, but i know a tankers dream is to go into a pub with a proto tank that average blue dots will never destroy and go 50-0 regularly. If only my protosuits were invulnerable to getting obliteraded by militia locus nades. Maybe us assaulters should petition for that... This is why I don't feel the swarm launcher changes make SLs OP. If you drive any vehicle in game...or way any suit...and regularly go 30-0 or 50-0, well, you're vehicle/suit/weapons is OP.
echo47 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:32:00 - [93] - Quote Mintqueer wrote: Bad AV users shouldn't have a say on vehicle matter, unless you blow a 100 tanks from top 10 tankers then there is a say List the top 10 tankers please?
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 501	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:34:00 - [94] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: I have no reason to lie about it, people that have proto swarms and nades knows how it goes. All damage done comes right back is it drives back to the redline. LOL you're lying. Go away
Bittersteel the Bastard WarRavens League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:34:00 - [95] - Quote I had a Soma take 3 hits from a proto swarm before it died. That's with minimal skill investment.
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 501	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:36:00 - [96] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: ] I dont use lai dais they rarely register. LOL you're doing it wrong then.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 884	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:51:00 - [97] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's not unebelieveable. I saw a tanker survive three people with proto swarms trying to take him down. I really think tanks being underpowered is exaggerated. were they shooting armor or shields? most likely shields. I've faced those damn shield tanks. bastard just stayed there and took all my proto swarms, and Re blasts. so I jumped on top of his tank and messaged him "NEAT! How good is your tank against forge?" that got him rolling away, I jumped off and darted behind cover.
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 690	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:56:00 - [98] - Quote I'm currently in the middle of a lil proto swarmer study, which I'll post on here in a few days. As of right now my results show the exact opposite of the OP's problem. Also the hive....why do people always drop the hive, its the biggest giveaway
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 196	Posted - 2013.08.27 21:08:00 - [99] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's not unebelieveable. I saw a tanker survive three people with proto swarms trying to take him down. I really think tanks being underpowered is exaggerated. were they shooting armor or shields? most likely shields. I've faced those damn shield tanks. bastard just stayed there and took all my proto swarms, and Re blasts. so I jumped on top of his tank and messaged him "NEAT! How good is your tank against forge?" that got him rolling away, I jumped off and darted behind cover. Well you're definitely not a DS3 user.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 884	Posted - 2013.08.27 21:08:00 - [100] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: I'm currently in the middle of a lil proto swarmer study, which I'll post on here in a few days. As of right now my results show the exact opposite of the OP's problem. Also the hive....why do people always drop the hive, its the biggest giveaway a lady sniper player once taught me. That when hunting snipers to "look for the ammo hives" Miss that lass. miss a lot of the lasses that have left..



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