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Phosis Norg
Mad Clone Posse
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Posted - 2013.07.21 18:48:00 -
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I truly believe it is UNETHICAL for you to nerf anything that people have worked hard to skill into. INSTEAD, if you feel, or the whiny players are overwhelming you to "balance", then offer a counter measure, but don't take anything away from people who skilled up to something YOU offered.
For instance, if a complaint from the Heavy's comes in that the TARs are too powerful, don't nerf the TAR to make it so Heavy's can't be killed. Create a special module/shield that can be substituted for those who have that complaint.
Now they have been given a choice to give up something to defend against their pet peeve, and the people who worked hard to get whatever it is, don't feel sh_t upon, or that they wasted their time pursuing that feature or weapon etc.
Also, you are then not perceived as rewarding the loudest complainers by making them the superior force in battle. You have given everybody a choice, not just the whiny's.
I know that is a philosophical change, and therefore, probably a pipe dream. But you guys have screwed me back to back with taking away features that I worked hard to get. I pursued them based on what YOU said they would have.
Then when I get there, you listen to the whiny's who didn't do their homework and now feel it's unfair, and you take back what you offered instead of giving an option to the whiny's. |
Skipper Jones
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.21 18:52:00 -
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I think buffing everything up to the level of the OP item is a bad idea.
That just requires a longer time to kill people, or a useless role.
There should be a line. a balance line. Therefore buffs and nerfs will be given out accordingly |
Phosis Norg
Mad Clone Posse
11
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Posted - 2013.07.21 19:30:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:I think buffing everything up to the level of the OP item is a bad idea.
That just requires a longer time to kill people, or a useless role.
There should be a line. a balance line. Therefore buffs and nerfs will be given out accordingly
I agree with you on the buffing up part. My idea is more of a SPECIFIC option to defend or balance against a specific threat or feature.
In other words, you don't make all shields go so high as to defend against all threats, but you offer a specific shield.
This way, it's a trade off. It takes away the idea that any weapon is superior and that everything will be a soft target to it. Yet the people who skilled up to it, don't lose anything, just some of their targets will become harder to kill.
Not everybody will swap out a shield charger for a Flaylock shield (for instance), but some will.
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God Anpu TheImmortal
The Pyramid Order
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Posted - 2013.07.21 19:48:00 -
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Phosis Norg wrote:I truly believe it is UNETHICAL for you to nerf anything that people have worked hard to skill into. INSTEAD, if you feel, or the whiny players are overwhelming you to "balance", then offer a counter measure, but don't take anything away from people who skilled up to something YOU offered.
For instance, if a complaint from the Heavy's comes in that the TARs are too powerful, don't nerf the TAR to make it so Heavy's can't be killed. Create a special module/shield that can be substituted for those who have that complaint.
Now they have been given a choice to give up something to defend against their pet peeve, and the people who worked hard to get whatever it is, don't feel sh_t upon, or that they wasted their time pursuing that feature or weapon etc.
Also, you are then not perceived as rewarding the loudest complainers by making them the superior force in battle. You have given everybody a choice, not just the whiny's.
I know that is a philosophical change, and therefore, probably a pipe dream. But you guys have screwed me back to back with taking away features that I worked hard to get. I pursued them based on what YOU said they would have.
Then when I get there, you listen to the whiny's who didn't do their homework and now feel it's unfair, and you take back what you offered instead of giving an option to the whiny's.
To Expound, right now the Flaylock Pistol and the Scrambler rifle are way over powered as you know. The Flaylock is a one shot kill that you can not be revived from. I don't use either of these weapons and I hate how efficient they are. I DON'T want you to nerf them.
Instead, offer a special shield in the market, at Flaylock/Scrambler Rifle defense shield. Then I have a choice of exchanging a standard Shield Extender for the special shield. It takes away from my standard shields, but protects me from a one shot kill.
Not everybody will choose this, but some will, and the Flaylock people will suddenly find that not everyone is a soft target anymore. This is an important concept. Right now, all I hear in squad chats is that people are going to skill up for Flaylocks.
This is an endless see/saw. Need people to know that they have options other than pursuing the weapon of the day. It's funny how u talk about people being whiny and your doing it here accept getting to The point you decided to write a book of garbage. It's people like you is why the hmg heavy class truly doesn't dominate. |
Phosis Norg
Mad Clone Posse
12
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:22:00 -
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I just heard several heavy's complaining in chat's that the Tac ARs were too effective. Then they got nerfed. Now I see the Heavy's stand in the middle of everyone and mow everybody else down. So they got what they wanted. I don't understand how that helps the game. The TARs were a balance prior to the nerfing, not after. |
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