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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.21 16:12:00 -
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You got 5 highs and 4 lows, the highest slot allocation out of all the suits in the game. Just use one of those lows for a CPU enhancer and HTFU. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.07.21 16:26:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:You have the most slots of all the suits, so if a removal of 20 CPU is necessary for "balance" then give all Logistic suits 1 extra high slot ;) In that case, give Minmatar logi an extra low. That way I can upgrade to a complex codebreaker. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.07.21 18:25:00 -
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Seriously, you're creeping into first world problems territory. Either take a CPU hit or give up a low slot. Either way, you still have more survivability than any other logi. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:08:00 -
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Mintqueer wrote:Cosgar wrote:Seriously, you're creeping into first world problems territory. Either take a CPU hit or give up a low slot. Either way, you still have more survivability than any other logi. It is a matter of choice either you picked to have an extra slot and lose an equipment. How about CCp does both a CPU hit and slot removal and also apply to the other logistics suits. Survivability depens depends a lot of factors, sometimes it depends on having more armor like gallente, having more shield like caldari, being more stable and have more mobility like minmatar. Logistics suits will always be differentiated even 2 dropsuits from the same class can different so I am just asking a logical approach by making everything more even for logistics suits based on SLOTS, CPU and PG. What's wrong with having the same amount of CPU ? If we can observe that the CPU and PG modules are relatively equal, if it is correct for the caldari logistics to get a reduction in their CPU then I must assume the same for Amarr, Gallente and Minmatar. It is claimed that a 20 CPU decrease won't be big deal and that it will help logistics suits make the builds incline into supporting other players, so why not point out the same for our fellow logistics family and help everybody have the same goal. :) Your suit has 5 highs and 4 lows. If you can't somehow find a way to make that work, maybe you need to uninstall Dust. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3012
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:21:00 -
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Mintqueer wrote:Cosgar wrote: Your suit has 5 highs and 4 lows. If you can't somehow find a way to make that work, maybe you need to uninstall Dust.
Dj grammer wrote: 5.) You have 5 high and 4 low use a freaking cpu upgrade module So no the other logistics suits do not need a cpu nerf.
We already considered the CPU usage of High-Power and Equipment modules so we can concur that a difference in CPU usage is not a "factor", if we use the same logic from "quoted Text #2" then a decrease of 20 CPU to Amarr, Gallente and Minamatar logistics is viable given the following path of thought. The Gallente logistics dropsuit has 5 Low-Powered Slots and Minmatar has 4 Low-Powered Slots which are more than enough slots to fit a CPU chip, now if we bring Amarr to the picture we must take into consideration that having less slots also means less CPU usage which alleviates the CPU pressure of the dropsuit. Yet you're the only suit with 9 slots. Seriously, either give up a low slot or take the CPU hit. Hell, the CPU hit is better since you can just throw on a complex CPU enhancer which gives your more than 20 CPU. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3015
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:59:00 -
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Mintqueer wrote:Cosgar wrote: Yet you're the only suit with 9 slots. Seriously, either give up a low slot or take the CPU hit. Hell, the CPU hit is better since you can just throw on a complex CPU enhancer which gives your more than 20 CPU.
Hell, the CPU hit is better since Minmatar has the same amount of slots (4 Low-Powered Slots) and Gallente has 5 Low-Powered Slots, you can just throw on a complex CPU enhancer which gives your more than 20 CPU Personally, I would be willing to have CCP taking 1 High-Power Slot and reduce base CPU by 20, only if the Minmatar and Gallente dropsuits had an equipment slot removed and base CPU reduced by 20 Caldari, Minmatar and Gallente have the same amount of total slots which is 14. It was merely a matter of choice, if a player considered the High-Powered slot to have a greater value he/she would have picked Caldari, if it was the case of Low-Powered slot he/she would have picked Gallente, if it was the Sidearm he/she would have picked Amarr and he/she wanted a balanced amount of slots it would have been Minmatar. Balancing the rest of the logistics dropsuits by reducing the base CPU by the same amount would bring equality in terms of dropsuits, make logi users focus on supporting. In order to be able to car prototype level equipment a player may need to use a standard weapon but what's wrong with it if our goal is to support. :) Whatever, there's a reason why the CaLogi was the only suit got changed, the Amarr got a buff and the Minmatar/Gallente got ignored. Why not take your QQ over to a laser topic, I hear people have been able to get kills. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3019
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:21:00 -
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Mintqueer wrote:Cosgar wrote: Whatever, there's a reason why the CaLogi was the only suit got changed, the Amarr got a buff and the Minmatar/Gallente got ignored. Why not take your QQ over to a laser topic, I hear people have been able to get kills.
Don't worry and keep calm 1 step at a time, today Caldari Logistics and tomorrow the rest of the logistics suits. I never used a laser but it is funny how your attempts to develop a coherent argument have failed (I have never used a laser rifle but I trust CCP's judgement :3) Back on topic... the Amarr, Gallente and Minmatar logistics dropsuits need to be aligned with its Caldari counterpart if the goal of CCP is to have them accomplish a support role in the battlefield. You got it reversed, the Caldari was the one that needed to be aligned to the Amarr, Gallente and Minmatar suits. Face it you were the odd man out, and you're still the odd man out. If you lost a low on top of the CPU nerf, you might have some sympathy. I'm calling it quits though because I said my points and tired of repeating myself. I hope you have some luck in coping with the issue of your underpowered 5/4 module slot allocation since it's so hard to make a good fit. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3059
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Posted - 2013.07.23 08:07:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Cosgar wrote:You got 5 highs and 4 lows, the highest slot allocation out of all the suits in the game. Just use one of those lows for a CPU enhancer and HTFU. Who is the man who doesn't have toes to count with? 5, 4, 3 cal 4, 5, 3 gal, 4, 4, 4 min? Looks like 12 12 12 to me . Module slots, you know the things that give you access to more modules... |
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