Why some people insist on using one style of defense and not hybridizing is beyond me

Why some people insist on using one style of defense and not hybridizing is beyond me

Why one style of defense is allowed to be used alone while the other requires you to go hybrid is beyond me.

Why one style of defense is allowed to be used alone while the other requires you to go hybrid is beyond me.

Go ahead and use shields alone, the most widely used weapon and one that people love to ***** and moan about has a bonus against it

Go ahead and use shields alone, the most widely used weapon and one that people love to ***** and moan about has a bonus against it

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/64862/1/damageprofiles.jpg

A small bonus, you mean. The AR doesn't insta gib shields like most anti armor weapons insta gib armor.

Tell me what instagibs armor, grenades that still eat through shields despite the damage reduction and will kill you either way, flaylocks maybe but those are just broken all around and kill shield opponents just as well, the SMG Ill give to you though since it eats armor like paper while bouncing off shields

Seriously anyone stacking only one form of protection be it shields or armor is an idiot since they both fall quickly, shields do get a slight advantage since they recharge without having to fit any extra modules but thats it

Ive taken more damage than that on a shield stacked suit before I started running a dual set up, can you link to some proof to your claim?

Fully charged Scrambler rifle also instakills me. That's anti shield.
But I'm scout so few things don't insta kill me. :\

Fully charged Scrambler rifle also instakills me. That's anti shield.
But I'm scout so few things don't insta kill me. :\

By insta kill means you can't get revived.
Scram rifle doesn't do that.

It has instakilled me though.

( I am noting that I am an armor user)

Most armor suits have this tiny sliver of shield and then a nice beefy center.

Shield users have this nice pool of shield, and tiny armor.

Looking on average, shield users have 4/3 while we run 3/4

Say shield user doesnt put armor on that right side, what can he put? SPEED, HACKING, things to make his shields come back even faster. So he can pop in and out as he pleases ( or as his shields please)

Armor. Our Left side has pretty much damage mods. We are slow, we can be repped but... Lets see. We are talking repping a shield guy ( guessing about 100 armor) as for me, I'm looking at 400+ armor. So the shield guy has a gun taken off the field for a few seconds, while he who is repping me, could take an easy 30 seconds. Half the time, yes, I do dual, but we are only talking about 150 odd shield.

So...another disadvantage to armor. Longer time in removing a gun off the field for repairs.

It is sad to say but...10 to 1, shield has a definitive advantage. Only thing you can do at this point is fire at range.

Insta killing is a bit finicky, I had that happen with an AR.
But for the most part, explosives ALWAYS insta kill you, no exception.

I understand shields do have alot of advantages but if you have 3 high slots I'm sure you can shield tank some as well... I run Caldari assault but I also armor tank most of my fits as heavily as I can since don't plan on being fluxxed to death like a noob.

All the useful mods minus damage mods are in low slots, are you blind?
And speed mods are as effective as damage mods, don't disregard them so quickly.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752
There, he is a full list minus the insta gibbing of why armor sucks.

Even with a complex shield extender I still only have 214 shield HP, which is not enough to stop a core locus grenade from insta killing me before I can blink.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752

Shields on a galente suit > armor on a galente suit. I'm pretty sure that's how it's designed, shields are for defense. armor is for exploding, and walking slower.

There is only 2 ways It can go. Fix armor, or bring back the old viziam with a dmg increase to it. That way atleast everybody dies at the same speed to there counter.

Test it.
I did a field test with my friend.
Core locus grenades do 70% damage to shield and 135% damage to armor.

Shields on a galente suit > armor on a galente suit. I'm pretty sure that's how it's designed, shields are for defense. armor is for exploding, and walking slower.

There is only 2 ways It can go. Fix armor, or bring back the old viziam with a dmg increase to it. That way atleast everybody dies at the same speed to there counter.

Why some people insist on using one style of defense and not hybridizing is beyond me

( I am noting that I am an armor user)

Most armor suits have this tiny sliver of shield and then a nice beefy center.

Shield users have this nice pool of shield, and tiny armor.

Looking on average, shield users have 4/3 while we run 3/4

Say shield user doesnt put armor on that right side, what can he put? SPEED, HACKING, things to make his shields come back even faster. So he can pop in and out as he pleases ( or as his shields please)

Armor. Our Left side has pretty much damage mods. We are slow, we can be repped but... Lets see. We are talking repping a shield guy ( guessing about 100 armor) as for me, I'm looking at 400+ armor. So the shield guy has a gun taken off the field for a few seconds, while he who is repping me, could take an easy 30 seconds. Half the time, yes, I do dual, but we are only talking about 150 odd shield.

So...another disadvantage to armor. Longer time in removing a gun off the field for repairs.

It is sad to say but...10 to 1, shield has a definitive advantage. Only thing you can do at this point is fire at range.

Yes, because shield tanking is an option on a proto gallente scout with its exorbitant grand total of 1 high slot =\

yo you need logis to use this "Core Focused Repair Tool" it does the highest on dropsuits(105hp/s) so your 400+ only takes 3 seconds to get to max. shields have flux to worry about so GTFO.

Any scout trying to slug it out with someone in a stand up fight is playing the class wrong

How can he flank or even get close to his target if he is just going to be instant pop?

Pro Gal Scout is 1/4

So either that is something for speed and survivability or, red line sniper

Pretty sure I could hit a scout with a pillow and he would instantly vaporize

yo you need logis to use this "Core Focused Repair Tool" it does the highest on dropsuits(105hp/s) so your 400+ only takes 3 seconds to get to max. shields have flux to worry about so GTFO.