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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:16:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:Your source on this info? I was under the impression that the CPM was chosen for their dust specific play and feedback over the course of the closed beta, save Hans who I would say in addition was a good choice for his CSM experience.
Nah man, they were chosen because they hung around in IRC and brown nosed better than others and I believe right now they are telling CCP to hold off on letting the player base actually elect some CPM |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:39:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:Your source on this info? I was under the impression that the CPM was chosen for their dust specific play and feedback over the course of the closed beta, save Hans who I would say in addition was a good choice for his CSM experience. Nah man, they were chosen because they hung around in IRC and brown nosed better than others and I believe right now they are telling CCP to hold off on letting the player base actually elect some CPM Yeah, because the mature and thoughtful nature of this community clearly indicates that democratic election would be the best process for selection of CPM members. You guys realize you're shooting yourselves in the foot with this stuff, right?
Yeah, it totally wasnt having our feedback ignored, promises go unfulfilled, or the current CPM acting like CCPs yes men while trying to stay segregated from the community they were supposed to represent that pissed people off and turned this into a toxic environment, we were just all born this way
I think an election now could work but anyone elected would have to be closely monitored and possibly replaced, its not the sort of thing were you can just grab a handful of people and say this is it and leave it that way for months, if a person is not up to it then it will show as it is now with the community turning against them and replacing them in a timely manner would be much better than letting them sit and fester gathering ill will which is also transferred on to CCP |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.07.19 21:00:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Yeah, it totally wasnt having our feedback ignored, promises go unfulfilled, or the current CPM acting like CCPs yes men while trying to stay segregated from the community they were supposed to represent that pissed people off and turned this into a toxic environment, we were just all born this way
I think an election now could work but anyone elected would have to be closely monitored and possibly replaced, its not the sort of thing were you can just grab a handful of people and say this is it and leave it that way for months, if a person is not up to it then it will show as it is now with the community turning against them and replacing them in a timely manner would be much better than letting them sit and fester gathering ill will which is also transferred on to CCP
Calling BS here. The community was toxic prior to the CPM appointment and continues to be. Keep in mind the age of the CPM and the time CCP takes to actually make turnarounds on feedback. The fact of the matter is that you have no clue what the CPM is saying behind closed doors and it time we all stopped pretending we did. That's the point though. The fact that they aren't blogging every single thing they ever say to CCP is clear evidence of trying to hide that they just nod at everything CCP says and are trying to turn this game into an EVE clone. Lack of constant information release = evil intent.
Gonna address both of you in this one since its just a bit easier that way
While their appointment may not be the root cause their actions or lack thereof have just exacerbated the toxicity in the community and no one Ive seen is asking for constant updates they just want to know they are being heard or that their concerns are being noted
Lets use IWS as an example since hes actually around, when he shows up and sounds like a CCP shill giving people more of the same crap they have been hearing for months they turn on him more and make snarky replies but when he actually has something to say or hell even when he says "Ill talk to them about it" peoples reaction to him is like night and day which shows the community isnt completely poisoned yet and if there were more people willing to put in the time and effort and actually be open about at the very least what issues they were going to talk to CCP about and not just brush them off to the council board then I think we would see a turnaround in the community albeit a slow one
Bah, Im getting all run on sentency again |
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