no amount of asking is going to reverse a change like this once its been posted to a devblog. CCP has spent more time looking at CPU/PG fittings than you have. Caldari tears are best tears.

Assuming you're using a GEK-34 and AV Grenades, in order to run a basic repair tool, a basic nanite injector, and Advanced K-2 nanohives, you will need Core Upgrades 4 and Electronics 4! Even if you downgrade to the BASIC nanohive, you need Core 3/Electronics 4 just to fit it! And for R-9 drop uplinks instead of nanohives, you'd need Electronics 5!

Before you say "downgrade to a basic AR," compare this to the Gallente Advanced suit. Using 2x Complex Extenders and 3x Basic Plates (EHP 628), the GEK-34 and the AV grenades, you do not need ANY additional fitting skills to fit the Repair Tool, Nanite Injector, and K-2 hives. All you need is Core 2 which is a pre-req anyway for your equipment.

This is why they are nerfing the fit.. To stop people from using assault setups like the Gek or Duvolle. It's a Logi, and as such should be used as support.

So your whole argument is invalid because you are only upset because you can no longer use it as an assault.

Those of us who use it as intended are the ones getting the far worse of the deal. We lose Shields, 87 extra EHP ( which makes a BIG difference when you are busy rep'ing that heavy, or res'ing that fallen assault ).

Now it will be harder for us to fit for survivability AND fit all our equip we need to be effective.

Not to mention the fact that this is causing an unbalance with the frames. So far all frames in a class carried same bonuses. Now the Cal's are swapped. Which make no sense. There were better ways of removing the assault draw. Again, any common sense person wouldn't spend the extra isk to fit a logi suit for assault with less stats, and only 87 more EHP. However obviously we have very few players with common sense.

So instead they screw Cal Logi's instead of fixing the other suits.

So you're saying that the Advanced Caldari suit shouldn't be able to use an Advanced weapon while the other suits can do so and still fit better equipment/tank? Also, where is 87 HP lost coming from? This post is about the Advanced suit, NOT the Proto suit.

Did you even read my original post? My complaint is that given the same weapon/grenades and comparable EHP as other suits, the Caldari suit cannot fit comparable equipment without a considerable amount of SP invested into fitting skills. When all skills are upgraded to Lvl 5, the CPU nerf will cripple the Advanced Cal Logi's equipment potential compared to Gallente and Minmatar.

If you downgrade the weapon to a Lvl 1 or Sidearm, there's just that much more CPU/PG available to all classes, not just Caldari. I don't understand why you think Caldari specifically has to run a gimped weapon to keep up with the equipment levels of the other suits, who can still fit an Advanced weapon.

Also, please do not make assumptions about my playstyle. I play a Logi, not a Logissault, and guarantee that the bulk of my WP come from Logi'ing, not killing.

Your whole argument is fitting a GEK on a suit. Which is an ASSAULT RIFLE. Also AV nades. Everything points to an assault role.

If all your skills are level 5, then you will have NO issue making the fit with Adv gear. It isn't till you get into proto fitting that you will have issues. A simple CPU mod or PG mod will fix any issue you have in fits. There is where your HP comes into effect. Each Shield Ext. offers 82.5 I think it is with a 25% bonus from efficacy on a complex mod of 66 hp. Hence is why the whole argument of making the suit less an assault suit has spurned all this QQ on OP.

Yes, the CPU nerf is going to affect us all. However if you are Logi'ing who cares what grade weapon you have? We need the more EHP for survivability than anything else.

You are trying to pick an argument with me for explaining first WHY this nerf is coming and WHAT they should do versus what they ARE doing.

You have missed the whole fact that none of us want this nerf when there are MUCH better ways of fixing the suit.

Dude um....logis aren't Supost to fight...you jobs to sit behind everyone throwing hives and holding a rep tool

You are comparing it to a suit that has a built in bonus for carrying equipment.

Also, this change was coming, and it can't be stopped. Would you rather lose high/low slots? or lose 20 CPU?

Because that is what it probably narrowed down to in CCP's discussions.

The Racial Bonus IS the reason you are getting the nerf in the first place, and therefore is relevant.

Also, to note your gallente logi is improperly tanked. (no way in hell will it survive) (needs armor reppers)

Again, the nerf is pretty much just to go against the shield tankers. So all i can really say is that CCP probably looked really hard at people's stats and suits. And came up with this. I can't stress enough that the caldari logi is OP with the way the shields are.

and to my other post, Which is better? Losing a high slot? Or 20 CPU? Something had to go, and I don't see what else could they of done.. And leaving it alone without the racial bonus wouldn't help either because the logi suit STILL gives far more advantages over the assault variant.

Also, Everyone was complaining about the CALDARI LOGI, not JUST the Proto, OR standard, But all of it!