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        |  Bendtner92
 Internal Error.
 
 748
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 17:31:00 -
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 Deluxe Edition wrote:your math is wrong. its 16.5HP per shield extender, or up to 82.5HP buff and actually thats without me knowing how to calculate how this skill stacks with the other passive shield skills. I belive my number is actually low balling it by a lot of HP. Not really. The new Caldari Assault bonus is +2% efficiency to extenders per level, and not +5% as the current Caldari Logi bonus is.
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        |  Deluxe Edition
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 580
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 17:33:00 -
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 Bendtner92 wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:your math is wrong. its 16.5HP per shield extender, or up to 82.5HP buff and actually thats without me knowing how to calculate how this skill stacks with the other passive shield skills. I belive my number is actually low balling it by a lot of HP. Not really. The new Caldari Assault bonus is +2% efficiency to extenders per level, and not +5% as the current Caldari Logi bonus is. good point didn't notice that. so no it's not too bad.
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        |  Dr Allopathy
 Homos Erected
 
 208
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 17:35:00 -
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 Cosgar wrote:Just glad they didn't do something extreme like limiting all logis to sidearms. In case if you guys haven't noticed, the Amarr got a much needed buff while the Gallente and Minmatar remained unchanged since they're actually balanced. Well, the Gallente could use some work, but that's an armor vs shields issue. This is good.
 
 Dual tanking FTW
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        |  Nahaalek ClovenShield
 TRUE TEA BAGGERS
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.18 17:38:00 -
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 Lol CCP you are a laughing stock, these changes are almost as big a joke as this entire ******* game, my want to continue this game is hanging by a thread.
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        |  SERPENT-Adamapple
 Royal Uhlans
 Amarr Empire
 
 129
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 17:39:00 -
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 Cal Assault should get a 2% bonus to shield rechargers not shield extenders. That would balance it out better in relation to the other suits.
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
 2807
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 17:39:00 -
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 Nahaalek ClovenShield wrote:Lol CCP you are a laughing stock, these changes are almost as big a joke as this entire ******* game, my want to continue this game is hanging by a thread. A wild CaLogi appears!
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        |  Nahaalek ClovenShield
 TRUE TEA BAGGERS
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.18 17:43:00 -
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 My girl got a ps3 just to play this game and has spent 40 on boosters to catch up to my 10mil, she's never played a fps so she picked cal logi because she like caldaris story and the way they look, she now wants to quit dust lolol you took away something uselfull a bonus to ext which she had at 5 now you switch it to some ***** regulator bonus? Something she hasent out 1sp into and something she never wanted to use but now must, fu. Ck this **** CCP you guys are ********
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        |  WyrmHero1945
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 464
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 17:50:00 -
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 Deluxe Edition wrote:https://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3/
 So with such large changes coming to these suites, will CCP consider allowing SP reallocations?
 
 edit: nvm thought they copy and pasted Logi bonus to assault but the %'s are different... i'm drunk... move along.
 
 
 Yup you're drunk, because that's what exactly did CCP, copy paste Caldari logi into Caldari assault.
 
 Edit: lol it's 5% right now right? Nvm me then I'm the one who's drunk.
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        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 3407
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 18:05:00 -
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 Washlee wrote:I want to see how many people beg for a respec when they nerf the Godlocks 
 /readies the tear jar
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        |  Poonmunch
 Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
 Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
 
 110
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 18:16:00 -
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 [quote=DUST Fiend
 Let the respec threads commence. [/quote]
 
 For who?
 
 The guys who banked tons of SP in the triple SP event by using OP logi suits?
 
 What about the rest of us?
 
 
 Munch
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        |  Kinky Burrito
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 League of Infamy
 
 89
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 18:32:00 -
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 Alina Heart wrote:Thanks For the Low slot, equipment and Sidearm CCP, I'm sure the EXTRA WHOPPING 3 PG will be more than enough now for me to fit all that...
 Thanks Again.
 
 Look at it this way. You can fit a pg module there, then actually have room for Proto equipment, a Proto sidearm, and complex armor repair. As it is we have to pick and choose, even with core skills upgraded. Also, I forgot to add Proto grenades.
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        |  Mike Poole
 Kirkinen Risk Control
 Caldari State
 
 326
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 18:44:00 -
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 If CCP doesn't accompany this with a respec this is just plain BS. The changes to the Amarr logi invalidate almost every single reason I went with the Minmatar suit over it.
 
 How the hell are people supposed to make informed decisions about investments of SP that take weeks to accumulate when they pull crap like this?
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        |  Eriknaught
 Vader's Taco Shack
 
 92
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 20:10:00 -
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 Nahaalek ClovenShield wrote:My girl got a ps3 just to play this game and has spent 40 on boosters to catch up to my 10mil, she's never played a fps so she picked cal logi because she like caldaris story and the way they look, she now wants to quit dust lolol you took away something uselfull a bonus to ext which she had at 5 now you switch it to some ***** regulator bonus? Something she hasent out 1sp into and something she never wanted to use but now must, fu. Ck this **** CCP you guys are ********  
 I'm in a similar boat. Dust514 is my GFs first shooter & she went CalLogi. Haven't told her about the changes but I'm not worried about it; I made sure she balanced out her shield skills. She should be fine with the nerf.
 That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION.
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        |  ZDub 303
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 1016
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 20:20:00 -
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 So it sounds like racial bonuses are changing drastically come 1.4 when this new racial bonus tech is finished. I suspect we will see drastic changes to racial bonuses for all classes when that happens.
 
 We might even see more light/heavy frame racial variants at that point.
 
 At which point it might be quit plausible for us to see a refund of all skills in 'dropsuit command'
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        |  Sana Rayya
 WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
 EoN.
 
 28
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 20:22:00 -
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 ZDub 303 wrote:So it sounds like racial bonuses are changing drastically come 1.4 when this new racial bonus tech is finished. I suspect we will see drastic changes to racial bonuses for all classes when that happens.
 We might even see more light/heavy frame racial variants at that point.
 
 At which point it might be quit plausible for us to see a refund of all skills in 'dropsuit command'
 
 Let's just get a full respec. I'm sure for those changing suits, modules useful in one suit are no longer necessary in others.
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        |  Royce Kronos
 Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
 Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
 
 74
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 20:30:00 -
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 To all those who stuck the the Amarr Logi suit from the beginning: "Well played gentlemen, well played."
 
 
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1170
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 20:59:00 -
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 Deluxe Edition wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:https://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3/
 So with such large changes coming to these suites, will CCP consider allowing SP reallocations?
 
 
 Caladari assault will now procede to be the new end all suit in the game once again.
 Respec was the result of a complete overhaul of the skill system; changes to suits do not warrant respecs. CCP doesn't do it in Eve and won't do it here, and to be honest they shouldn't. Live with your choices. choices mean nothing if CCP doesn't give us enough information to make them. 
 They change the bonuses frequently - hell they are completely redoing everything in Eve right now. No one there complains and cries for a respec because it changes. I don't know of any game that lets you undo you choices, for that matter. Live with the choices. Don't like the changes, spec into something different. Bottom line is - the game is about growth and you are continually earning new SP to spend on new things.
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        |  ZDub 303
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 1017
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 21:08:00 -
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 Forlorn Destrier wrote:They change the bonuses frequently - hell they are completely redoing everything in Eve right now. No one there complains and cries for a respec because it changes. I don't know of any game that lets you undo you choices, for that matter. Live with the choices. Don't like the changes, spec into something different. Bottom line is - the game is about growth and you are continually earning new SP to spend on new things. 
 If we had a fully passive SP system I would agree. But in Dust, wasted SP is wasted time... and people don't like playing games that make them feel like they are wasting their time.
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        |  Mobius Wyvern
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 2555
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 21:38:00 -
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 Forlorn Destrier wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:https://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3/
 So with such large changes coming to these suites, will CCP consider allowing SP reallocations?
 
 
 Caladari assault will now procede to be the new end all suit in the game once again.
 Respec was the result of a complete overhaul of the skill system; changes to suits do not warrant respecs. CCP doesn't do it in Eve and won't do it here, and to be honest they shouldn't. Live with your choices. Yeah, I specced into Falcons in EVE. Don't even try and talk about nerfs in comparison to that.
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        |  Alina Heart
 DIOS EX.
 Top Men.
 
 395
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 21:57:00 -
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 Nahaalek ClovenShield wrote:My girl got a ps3 just to play this game and has spent 40 on boosters to catch up to my 10mil, she's never played a fps so she picked cal logi because she like caldaris story and the way they look, she now wants to quit dust lolol you took away something uselfull a bonus to ext which she had at 5 now you switch it to some ***** regulator bonus? Something she hasent out 1sp into and something she never wanted to use but now must, fu. Ck this **** CCP you guys are ********  
 In this story "My Girlfriend" is a placeholder for "Nahaalek ClovenShield" or in other words a butthurt Caldari logi who's crying because his crutch got taken away.
 
 Also anyone who thinks CalLogi is gunna be irrelevant after this nerd is mistaken. 5 Highs and 4 lows and more than enough CPU and PG to fill them is still ridiculously good. Now add the shield regulator bonus with 4 complex Shield regulators and now instead of a Assault/Heavy OP hybrid we have an Assault/Scout hybrid.
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1171
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 22:10:00 -
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 ZDub 303 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:They change the bonuses frequently - hell they are completely redoing everything in Eve right now. No one there complains and cries for a respec because it changes. I don't know of any game that lets you undo you choices, for that matter. Live with the choices. Don't like the changes, spec into something different. Bottom line is - the game is about growth and you are continually earning new SP to spend on new things. If we had a fully passive SP system I would agree. But in Dust, wasted SP is wasted time... and people don't like playing games that make them feel like they are wasting their time. 
 I don't know anyone other than the minority who post on here that feel like they "wasted time". To me and people I talk to in game, we get value out of the SP we spend for the time it is available. Also, I have the skills for when I inevitable decide to go back to the other skill (even if its not as great as it was) specifically for the fun of it. It's a game, enjoy it as a game. If you are so disappointed int he game that it effects your mental state, stop playing.
 
 Your disappointment is the direct result of having an unfulfilled expectation. The easiest way to be happy is to change your expectations. The best movies are ones you go to with no expectation, after all. If you expect Man of Steel to give you Pa Kent who doesn't suggest hiding what you can do to protect people from the fear and violence that might erupt, then either don't go see it (meaning don't play the game) or have no expectations (then when you see the movie / play the game you enjoy the results.)
 
 My point - manage your expectations and don't feel entitled, and you will be much happier.
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1171
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.18 22:13:00 -
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 Mobius Wyvern wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:https://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3/
 So with such large changes coming to these suites, will CCP consider allowing SP reallocations?
 
 
 Caladari assault will now procede to be the new end all suit in the game once again.
 Respec was the result of a complete overhaul of the skill system; changes to suits do not warrant respecs. CCP doesn't do it in Eve and won't do it here, and to be honest they shouldn't. Live with your choices. Yeah, I specced into Falcons in EVE. Don't even try and talk about nerfs in comparison to that. 
 Falcons will always make me worried on the battlefield, no matter what changes they make. I always call them primary. Always. and my fleets thank me.
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