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Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:30:00 -
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Did you put all your points into a weapon or vehicle and then the stat changed? are you raging you want a respec? CCP are you tired of all the respec requests? Want an idea that could work for both sides?
Per Skill Respec
 How It Could Work
1. A reset skill option would be added to each individual skill
2. Users would get 1 reset per skill (excluding the very top base skills)
3. Resetting a skill would effect its skill and any direct skills that require that skill, thus give back all SP for that branch
 Benefits to Players
1. They get a limited respec feature
2. They can get out of skill they did not like
3. They can test new content right away with little risk
 Benefits to CCP
1. Each skill could have its reset options turned on and off
2. If you alter a skill you can give everyone a chance to reset that skill if they do not like the adjustments
3. Less support tickets on each change as players can back out of skills
4. You can track what player like and don't like based on how they are respecing
5. New content will be tested faster and players will be more willing to try it since they are not bound for life with such skills
Brush
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:15:00 -
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Interesting
I have yet to fall pray to such a situation but if I did then a quick respect would be nice. |
We are 138
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:20:00 -
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nope. no respec. all this is is a ploy to give the crying babys a chance to get what they want. they speced into the flavor of the month now its gonna get nerfed so they want out. Play the game, earn your sp. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:36:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:nope. no respec. all this is is a ploy to give the crying babys a chance to get what they want. they speced into the flavor of the month now its gonna get nerfed so they want out. Play the game, earn your sp.
If we had the firing range I would agree with you but since the only real way to see the value of ... well... anything! is to actually use it I would say a respect would be a good way of saying "I'm sorry for f*cking you over"
After firing range comes out and you get to "try before you buy" it will be the players fault for specing into stuff they don't like as SP will not be needed to test the items. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3407
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:44:00 -
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Looks like someone forgot to look up the previously-suggested idea of the "Skillback Booster" which is currently being looked into by CCP Cmdr Wang. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3407
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:48:00 -
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Source:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1009985#post1009985
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Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
RUST415
146
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:55:00 -
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Wow. I have to say I think that is the first respec suggestion that I actually think is a good idea and I am very anti respec. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3407
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:57:00 -
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Casius Hakoke wrote:Wow. I have to say I think that is the first respec suggestion that I actually think is a good idea and I am very anti respec.
That was exactly my reaction the first time I read it. |
Poonmunch
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
110
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:04:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:nope. no respec. all this is is a ploy to give the crying babys a chance to get what they want. they speced into the flavor of the month now its gonna get nerfed so they want out. Play the game, earn your sp.
They have already earned their SP.
They got it in the triple SP event while they were OP.
Now they can spend the SP on other skills, or save them for the next FoTM.
The FoTM strategy works very well if contests are offered when there is glaringly OP equipment.
Munch |
We are 138
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:20:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:We are 138 wrote:nope. no respec. all this is is a ploy to give the crying babys a chance to get what they want. they speced into the flavor of the month now its gonna get nerfed so they want out. Play the game, earn your sp. If we had the firing range I would agree with you but since the only real way to see the value of ... well... anything! is to actually use it I would say a respect would be a good way of saying "I'm sorry for f*cking you over" After firing range comes out and you get to "try before you buy" it will be the players fault for specing into stuff they don't like as SP will not be needed to test the items.
so.... you are saying they should have gone all the way proto with out just sticking their toes in the water to test it out? no one is bitching because they only put in 16k sp you know damn well these people went all the way to exploit the cheapness of the weapon/fit/vehicle/what ever. thats why I say NO MORE! |
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Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
649
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:34:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:We are 138 wrote:nope. no respec. all this is is a ploy to give the crying babys a chance to get what they want. they speced into the flavor of the month now its gonna get nerfed so they want out. Play the game, earn your sp. If we had the firing range I would agree with you but since the only real way to see the value of ... well... anything! is to actually use it I would say a respect would be a good way of saying "I'm sorry for f*cking you over" After firing range comes out and you get to "try before you buy" it will be the players fault for specing into stuff they don't like as SP will not be needed to test the items.
There are definitely multiple ways in which this issue could be addressed. The obvious one that seems to hit on multiple points is a testing ground of some but that is outside the scope of this thread. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
649
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Looks like someone forgot to look up the previously-suggested idea of the "Skillback Booster" which is currently being looked into by CCP Cmdr Wang.
There are multiple ways to address an issue, while it may be similar in its desire to allow people to get sp back, it is not the same idea. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
75
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:57:00 -
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So all problems can be fixed with aurum?
Why does that sound familiar?
If that is the case then the will be taking a "Pay-to-tolerate" path which I wouldn't recommend.
`sigh. What do I care anyway, this topic has already stopped being helpful  |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3408
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:40:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:So all problems can be fixed with aurum? Why does that sound familiar? If that is the case then the will be taking a "Pay-to-tolerate" path which I wouldn't recommend. `sigh. What do I care anyway, this topic has already stopped being helpful
I don't get what you're trying to say. Once item trading becomes available, you will be able to sell aurum items to other players for ISK. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
90
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:44:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:nope. no respec. all this is is a ploy to give the crying babys a chance to get what they want. they speced into the flavor of the month now its gonna get nerfed so they want out. Play the game, earn your sp.
This. There is not a single reason for a respec in Dust. Because SP aren't limited. You want a new skill? Then just save your SP for it instead of respeccing. I have about 500k SP in a skill I don't use too because I made a mistake. But I don't whine. Instead of whining I saved my SP and bought the skill I actually want.
The sole reason for Respecs in every single RPG is because Skills are limited and you can't have everything. If you want to try something else you have to remove Skillpoints from somewhere. But in Dust you can get every single skill on a single character. Of course it takes time, but it's possible. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
649
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Posted - 2013.07.19 21:05:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:We are 138 wrote:nope. no respec. all this is is a ploy to give the crying babys a chance to get what they want. they speced into the flavor of the month now its gonna get nerfed so they want out. Play the game, earn your sp. This. There is not a single reason for a respec in Dust. Because SP aren't limited. You want a new skill? Then just save your SP for it instead of respeccing. I have about 500k SP in a skill I don't use too because I made a mistake. But I don't whine. Instead of whining I saved my SP and bought the skill I actually want. The sole reason for Respecs in every single RPG is because Skills are limited and you can't have everything. If you want to try something else you have to remove Skillpoints from somewhere. But in Dust you can get every single skill on a single character. Of course it takes time, but it's possible.
This would be more vital to newer players that are trying to test out everything and waiting game is not something most new players are going to stick around for if they just spend large SP in something that turned out bad. I would also point out that I said CCP could turn and off and on as a option for individual skills thus only allowing it on skill that are new or have been changed. |
LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
89
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Posted - 2013.07.19 21:14:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:We are 138 wrote:nope. no respec. all this is is a ploy to give the crying babys a chance to get what they want. they speced into the flavor of the month now its gonna get nerfed so they want out. Play the game, earn your sp. This. There is not a single reason for a respec in Dust. Because SP aren't limited. You want a new skill? Then just save your SP for it instead of respeccing. I have about 500k SP in a skill I don't use too because I made a mistake. But I don't whine. Instead of whining I saved my SP and bought the skill I actually want. The sole reason for Respecs in every single RPG is because Skills are limited and you can't have everything. If you want to try something else you have to remove Skillpoints from somewhere. But in Dust you can get every single skill on a single character. Of course it takes time, but it's possible.
You couldn't be more wrong. Can't use the "choices have consequence" arguement if all the choices aren't available from the start. Punishing all the scouts, heavies, and vehicle drivers who prefer a specific race is unfair. After the racials are out I support one last respec. This coming from someone Pro-Respec |
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